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Old 9th July 2008, 00:25   #1 (permalink)
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Benitez - Villa is "on our list"

Liverpool target Spain star Villa

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez admits David Villa is on his list of potential striker recruits after Peter Crouch's impending departure to Portsmouth.

Villa, 26, was one of the stars of Euro 2008, scoring four times as Spain won their first major trophy in 44 years.

"We have Torres, Voronin, Kuyt, Babel and Steven Gerrard, who can play as a second striker," Benitez said. "But we will try to bring in another option.

"Villa we know all about. He is on our list. But maybe it will be difficult."

Fernando Torres scored 33 goals in a spectacular first season at Anfield, but the other strikers only managed a combined total of 17 goals to undermine any hopes of launching a sustained Premier League title challenge.

Villa scored 18 league goals for Valencia last season and was the top scorer at Euro 2008, notably scoring a hat-trick against Russia in a Group D match.

And he also proved he could form an effective partnership with Torres, despite pre- tournament concerns that Spanish coach Luis Aragones would be forced to leave one out in order to select a balanced team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/7496686.stm
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:27   #2 (permalink)
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:27   #3 (permalink)
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:29   #4 (permalink)
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If he can play centre back, left back and left wing at the same time, I will be worried.
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If he can play centre back, left back and left wing at the same time, I will be worried.
Well if they can keep Agger fit and I know that's a big if then that's the centre back area sorted, plus Carragher and Skrtel aren't that bad. They just signed a left back for £9 million in Dossena and so they shouldn't need a new player there. Play Babel down the left on a consistent basis and it's not that bad of a team, still lacks something though.

And that could be Villa, if I was Benitez I would put all my effort into signing him. Screw Barry, it's not like he is that much better than Lucas.
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:45   #6 (permalink)
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Well if they can keep Agger fit and I know that's a big if then that's the centre back area sorted, plus Carragher and Skrtel aren't that bad. They just signed a left back for £9 million in Dossena and so they shouldn't need a new player there. Play Babel down the left on a consistent basis and it's not that bad of a team, still lacks something though.

And that could be Villa, if I was Benitez I would put all my effort into signing him. Screw Barry, it's not like he is that much better than Lucas.
They still miss a right back and a right mid then, and Babel isn't cut out to play on a consistent basis so they need another left winger too.
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:48   #7 (permalink)
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Well if they can keep Agger fit and I know that's a big if then that's the centre back area sorted, plus Carragher and Skrtel aren't that bad. They just signed a left back for £9 million in Dossena and so they shouldn't need a new player there. Play Babel down the left on a consistent basis and it's not that bad of a team, still lacks something though.

And that could be Villa, if I was Benitez I would put all my effort into signing him. Screw Barry, it's not like he is that much better than Lucas.
Dont get me wrong im not saying they are terrible, im talking about it finally being their year. They just do not have the quality in those positions that us and Chelsea do. Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic and Cole, Carvalho, BIGMAN are a considerable improvement. In fact Bridge and Brown could improve them for me.

Even with their clean sheet stats.
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They still miss a right back and a right mid then, and Babel isn't cut out to play on a consistent basis so they need another left winger too.
Well they've got Arbeloa who actually isn't that bad and just signed Degen. If I was Benitez I would quit faffing about with Gerrard and just play him in right mid, he's shown he hasn't got the awareness at times to play in the middle of a two man midfield. Liverpool have to take a gamble on Babel I reckon
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Dont get me wrong im not saying they are terrible, im talking about it finally being their year. They just do not have the quality in those positions that us and Chelsea do. Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic and Cole, Carvalho, BIGMAN are a considerable improvement. In fact Bridge and Brown could improve them for me.
You're right, even if they signed Villa I think only the Liverpool supporting media would back them to win the league. They would still have too many deficiencies compared to the Big Two.

I just feel at the moment, Liverpool aren't even a threat. If they signed Villa, I would be a tad more worried.
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Old 9th July 2008, 00:55   #11 (permalink)
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Well they've got Arbeloa who actually isn't that bad and just signed Degen. If I was Benitez I would quit faffing about with Gerrard and just play him in right mid, he's shown he hasn't got the awareness at times to play in the middle of a two man midfield. Liverpool have to take a gamble on Babel I reckon
Degen is a fairly awful player, but he can run all day long. Still, he's a shite defender so he won't get many games I think. And if Arbeloa was good enough Carragher wouldn't have been playing right back and Hyypia wouldn't have been playing at all, he's fairly mistake prone.

Gerrard's done great in his current role so I wouldn't want to drop him from there. He can do the job well at right mid but I'm sure he hates it by now after having so much freedom in his current position.

They will end up taking the gamble, but I'm just saying there are still plenty of weaknesses in their team which won't be fixed this summer.
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Degen is a fairly awful player, but he can run all day long. Still, he's a shite defender so he won't get many games I think. And if Arbeloa was good enough Carragher wouldn't have been playing right back and Hyypia wouldn't have been playing at all, he's fairly mistake prone.

Gerrard's done great in his current role so I wouldn't want to drop him from there. He can do the job well at right mid but I'm sure he hates it by now after having so much freedom in his current position.

They will end up taking the gamble, but I'm just saying there are still plenty of weaknesses in their team which won't be fixed this summer.
I always thought Arbeloa did well against us and did quite a good job at handling Ronaldo and Giggs even when Mascherano got sent off. Not sure why he was dropped in favour of Carragher and Hyypia but Benitez's tactics always bemuse me.

Gerrard can't stop going on about not playing in central midfield, where he frankly can go missing. He can have the same kind of freedom a couple of years ago where he did perform outstandingly.
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I always thought Arbeloa did well against us and did quite a good job at handling Ronaldo and Giggs even when Mascherano got sent off. Not sure why he was dropped in favour of Carragher and Hyypia but Benitez's tactics always bemuse me.

Gerrard can't stop going on about not playing in central midfield, where he frankly can go missing. He can have the same kind of freedom a couple of years ago where he did perform outstandingly.
He's a good defender but seems to get himself in bad positions.

He just isn't intelligent enough to play there, he doesn't no when to sit and when to pick and choose his runs and plays all at one pace. When he played 'outstandingly in right mid two years ago' the stats came up that he actually played less than half of his games there, while playing at left mid and centre mid a lot. He's definitely better on the right than right in the middle though, much better.
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I'll be a bit miffed if they get villa I still think we should have out bid em for Torres we need a striker Villa is the best even remotely available by a country mile i'm sure we have more financial muscle than the scousers when they are still struggling to pay off what they spent last year. I know Villa & Torres play well together for Spain but I would have thought Liverpool would be looking at finding a more creative striker to partner Torres to give them more options up front in the same way as we need a finisher to play with Rooney or Tevez.
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I'll be a bit miffed if they get villa I still think we should have out bid em for Torres we need a striker Villa is the best even remotely available by a country mile i'm sure we have more financial muscle than the scousers when they are still struggling to pay off what they spent last year. I know Villa & Torres play well together for Spain but I would have thought Liverpool would be looking at finding a more creative striker to partner Torres to give them more options up front in the same way as we need a finisher to play with Rooney or Tevez.
Eto'o?

Actually, up until the Euro's they really couldn't click. And even then it was just Spain using Torres as a battering ram and Villa picking up the pieces, that wouldn't be the case at Liverpool.
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He's a good defender but seems to get himself in bad positions.

He just isn't intelligent enough to play there, he doesn't no when to sit and when to pick and choose his runs and plays all at one pace. When he played 'outstandingly in right mid two years ago' the stats came up that he actually played less than half of his games there, while playing at left mid and centre mid a lot. He's definitely better on the right than right in the middle though, much better.
Well thinking for the team I would argue that Villa-Torres would be better for Liverpool than Torres-Gerrard. Then Gerrard could go back to his outstanding form on the wide flank where he play about half a season there.
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Well thinking for the team I would argue that Villa-Torres would be better for Liverpool than Torres-Gerrard. Then Gerrard could go back to his outstanding form on the wide flank where he play about half a season there.
Well we might get to find out next season, I doubt it though since he has already said he wants to stay in Spain. Would be good to see though, at least they would have some element of entertainment in their team.
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hmm remember morientes?
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Eto'o?

Actually, up until the Euro's they really couldn't click. And even then it was just Spain using Torres as a battering ram and Villa picking up the pieces, that wouldn't be the case at Liverpool.
They couldn't click? I swear I saw both of them playing very well at the last World Cup. Villa scored 4 in the competition while Torres got 3 as far as I remembers.
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He's right, Spanish strikers are sh*t in the prem.
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"Villa we know all about. He is on our list. But maybe it will be difficult."
Yes, at least £32m too difficult.
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He's right, Spanish strikers are sh*t in the prem.
Torres!!!

Can't see why Villa wouldn't work in the prem. Also can't see why he wouldn't work at Liverpool, think he's a quality player who has recently proved his abilities more than people alredy knew about.

If he came to the PL would be more than happy to see him at OT
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I personally think Torres operates best as a lone striker. As good a player as Villa is, I'm not convinced they'd be an effective partnership for us.

I'd like to see Robbie Keane up front with Torres. He can play that little bit deeper, & has a good eye for the clever little through ball that can unlock defences.
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Doubt if they can make a working combination out of Mascherano, Gerrard, Barry, Torres and Villa. They'll have no width whatsoever - especially if they play either Kuyt or Babel alongside and will be easily contained.

I don't think we should be particularly worried if this unlikly transfer materialises.

As somebody said, they have too many other weaknesses in their team for one world-class player to make the difference in winning the league.
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Old 9th July 2008, 08:53   #27 (permalink)
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Wanting a player and getting him are 2 totally different things...besides he's already said he wants to stay in spain.
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