Benzema

born&raisedred · 30th June 2008, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Johnno

Incidentally, he would be the first Muslim United player as far as everyone is aware based on a thread we did a few months back....
There was debate whether Saha and Evra were Muslim which were disproved, but there isn't anyone else I can think of who has been.
Nowt wrong with him being Muslim of course, I just think it's strange we've never had one....

Gary Palister converted to islam 2years before he retired

Johnno · 30th June 2008, 11:40

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Originally Posted by born&raisedred

Gary Palister converted to islam 2years before he retired

That's right, he changed his name to Mustapha Wank....

IhabX7 · 30th June 2008, 12:21

I wouldnt put up with the commentators screaming "BENZEMAAAR!!". So, no. Other than that, yes.

VoetbalWizard · 22nd August 2008, 06:10

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/Ne...ema-on-future/

sorry can't help myself. gus has his berbagol, i have my benzegol.

Alex · 22nd August 2008, 06:14

Cue "Summer Overture"

Chapster · 22nd August 2008, 06:48

most peoples' cocks are already out in the berbathread
what next?

giggs-beckham · 22nd August 2008, 07:04

A cheeky late offer?

Mabey not!

Alex · 22nd August 2008, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Chapster

most peoples' cocks are already out in the berbathread
what next?

chaffing

Escobar · 22nd August 2008, 07:18

Even more unlikely than Berbatov

Alex · 22nd August 2008, 07:48

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Originally Posted by Escobar

Even more unlikely than Berbatov

Come on they are both gonna sign

ThatOldRedMagic · 22nd August 2008, 07:55

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/Ne...ema-on-future/

sorry can't help myself. gus has his berbagol, i have my benzegol.

An interesting interview, and one pregnant with possibilities..

Chapster · 22nd August 2008, 08:15

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Originally Posted by ThatOldRedMagic

An interesting interview, and one pregnant with possibilities..

this thread is knocked up

Fergie's gum · 22nd August 2008, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Chapster

most peoples' cocks are already out in the berbathread
what next?

how about fencing...

IhabX7 · 22nd August 2008, 08:43

I'd be over the moon if we get him. I really hope Sir Alex is looking at him.

Drifter · 22nd August 2008, 08:53

Would love us to get him this Transfer window.But i can't see it happening.

Kelvin · 22nd August 2008, 08:54

he cost more than berbagod, even more unlikely.

IhabX7 · 22nd August 2008, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Kelvin

he cost more than berbagod, even more unlikely.

Its what you get for that money is what matters. Benzema is just 20 and already a top striker in my books.

Godfather · 22nd August 2008, 09:12

Well if he first wants to win the CL with Lyon before movin away he won't see too much of the world outside of France.

yamo123x · 22nd August 2008, 10:20

poor quotes, no truth in it dont get too excited.

IhabX7 · 22nd August 2008, 10:24

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Originally Posted by yamo123x

poor quotes, no truth in it dont get too excited.

Thought the same.

Dippersripper · 22nd August 2008, 10:37

How tall is Benzema?

Brwned · 22nd August 2008, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Would love us to get him this Transfer window.But i can't see it happening.

You would rather us get Benzema than Berbatov?

Ole_Gunnar · 22nd August 2008, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Brwned

You would rather us get Benzema than Berbatov?

Wouldn't everybody...

Drifter · 22nd August 2008, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Brwned

You would rather us get Benzema than Berbatov?

Yes of course.Was my first and only choice of striker.But it's not going to happen.So i'll be happy with going into the campaign with what we've got.

Brwned · 22nd August 2008, 11:43

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Originally Posted by ole_gunner

Wouldn't everybody...

Why would you?

Brwned · 22nd August 2008, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Yes of course.Was my first and only choice of striker.But it's not going to happen.So i'll be happy with going into the campaign with what we've got.

Why would you prefer him over Berbatov?

Ole_Gunnar · 22nd August 2008, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Why would you?

Benzema has alot more potential than Berbatov. At 27 Berbatov is more or less the finished article whereas Benzema at 20 already shows an outstanding skill factor, and despite not performing at the Euros still has so much time to be moulded into a great player by Fergie.
Benzema is about scoring goals. He can be selfish, which could be a bad thing in terms of not spotting a player in a better position, but might also add balance to our strikeforce who don't seem to be clinical.
Berbatovs' physical ability will be declining, he will gradually start to lose his pace, but makes up for this in other areas, such as having such a sharp brain and good awareness. On other hand Benzema will only get faster and stronger meaning he should be able to adapt well to the premiership.
Is Berbatov going to be happy sitting on the bench? I think Benzema would react better to being left out of the starting 11.
Benzema is a better investment, he will have a much greater resale value in say 3 years than Berbatov would, however their hypothetical spells at OT went.
Benzema is more versatile due to his dribbling ability, Berbatov would only be able to play centrally.

On the downside I wonder whether he would complement Rooney in the same way as Berbatov would, I reckon a Berbatov-Rooney partnership might be the best thing since sliced bread.

Also Berbatov can communicate in English whereas Benzema cannot, although there are a few French speakers at the club.

Brwned · 22nd August 2008, 12:04

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Originally Posted by ole_gunner

Benzema has alot more potential than Berbatov. At 27 Berbatov is more or less the finished article whereas Benzema at 20 already shows an outstanding skill factor, and despite not performing at the Euros still has so much time to be moulded into a great player by Fergie.
Benzema is about scoring goals. He can be selfish, which could be a bad thing in terms of not spotting a player in a better position, but might also add balance to our strikeforce who don't seem to be clinical.
Berbatovs' physical ability will be declining, he will gradually start to lose his pace, but makes up for this in other areas, such as having such a sharp brain and good awareness. On other hand Benzema will only get faster and stronger meaning he should be able to adapt well to the premiership.
Is Berbatov going to be happy sitting on the bench? I think Benzema would react better to being left out of the starting 11.
Benzema is a better investment, he will have a much greater resale value in say 3 years than Berbatov would, however their hypothetical spells at OT went.

On the downside I wonder whether he would complement Rooney in the same way as Berbatov would, I reckon a Berbatov-Rooney partnership might be the best thing since sliced bread.

Also Berbatov can communicate in English whereas Benzema cannot, although there are a few French speakers at the club.

Fair enough with the first point, but right now Berbatov is still a lot better than Benzema and if we did buy Benzema, he'd probably be sold in the next few years so there's no guarantee Benzema will ever become as good as Berbatov in his career with us.

Disagree with point two, his game isn't based around being clinical/selfish/scoring goals.

Berbatov has already adapted to the league and will continue to adapt his game to fit it while his physicality declines, there is no guarantee Benzema will adapt.

Completely disagree. With all of the talent Benzema has, he would not be happy in the slightest about being put on the bench, especially since this isn't his first choice team, so I don't think he would accept sitting on the bench any more than Berbatov. But in all honesty who knows how Berbatov or Benzema will react to being put on the bench?

The only thing I completely agree on is the resale value, it can only increase.

Ole_Gunnar · 22nd August 2008, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Fair enough with the first point, but right now Berbatov is still a lot better than Benzema and if we did buy Benzema, he'd probably be sold in the next few years so there's no guarantee Benzema will ever become as good as Berbatov in his career with us.

Disagree with point two, his game isn't based around being clinical/selfish/scoring goals.

Berbatov has already adapted to the league and will continue to adapt his game to fit it while his physicality declines, there is no guarantee Benzema will adapt.

Completely disagree. With all of the talent Benzema has, he would not be happy in the slightest about being put on the bench, especially since this isn't his first choice team, so I don't think he would accept sitting on the bench any more than Berbatov. But in all honesty who knows how Berbatov or Benzema will react to being put on the bench?

The only thing I completely agree on is the resale value, it can only increase.

Fair enough, who's to say how either of them would react when put on the bench? But rather they make a reaction and show hunger, than be happy to sit on the bench and cash the cheque every week ala Sidwell eh...

Regarding your 'proven in the premiership' point it was a gamble that brought Berbatov from a comparably weaker league into the premiership. Fans also questioned Torres' adaptability. At some point you have to take a risk. But to look at the player, he does appear to have the natural characteristics to survive in the prem.

I think he is a bit a selfish, from what I have seen of him. When he's in or around the box he is single-minded, he wants to shoot and score and I think that's what we need more than anything.

And with your initial point, it is true that Berbatov has only had eyes for United for a while now, where Benzema has mentioned Spain before he's mentioned England, but his value will increase so it's still a good bit of business. And if he stays with us for 3/4/5 years thats still a good spell, especially in football nowadays.

Richter · 22nd August 2008, 18:35

LYON ace Karim Benzema has put the Premier League on red alert by admitting he is ready for a fresh challenge abroad.

The forward is tipped to replace Thierry Henry as France's main marksman and caught the eye last season with a string of impressive performances in the Champions League.

And it seems a move away from the French champions could be on the cards after Benzema, 20, hinted he is ready to quit.

He said: “I don’t know the date of my departure or my future destination. England, Spain, Italy — everything is possible."

Real Madrid have been linked with a move for the French international but the Spanish giants would face competition from Arsenal and Manchester United.

Benzema added: "Real Madrid? Why not? But they are not the only club that could suit me.

“Some people think I’m an arrogant and insensitive to the pressure. But my strength is that I know where I’m going to.

“I want to win the Ballon d’Or and, to achieve this, I need to win club titles and with France.

"When I speak about titles I mean the Champions League. Reaching the quarter-finals or the semi-finals is not enough.

“That’s why I’ll need to play for a club that will offer me the chance to win it.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1594419.ece

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IhabX7 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,169	I wouldnt put up with the commentators screaming "BENZEMAAAR!!". So, no. Other than that, yes.

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VoetbalWizard Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,238	http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/Ne...ema-on-future/ sorry can't help myself. gus has his berbagol, i have my benzegol.

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Alex Spam Alert! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Isla de Coronado Posts: 18,622	Cue "Summer Overture"

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Chapster Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,432	most peoples' cocks are already out in the berbathread what next?

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Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Federer-Land Posts: 11,967	Even more unlikely than Berbatov

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IhabX7 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,169	I'd be over the moon if we get him. I really hope Sir Alex is looking at him.

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Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,128	Would love us to get him this Transfer window.But i can't see it happening.

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Kelvin First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,610	he cost more than berbagod, even more unlikely.

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Godfather Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 3,791	Well if he first wants to win the CL with Lyon before movin away he won't see too much of the world outside of France.

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Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Trying to burn down Marca's office Posts: 25,267	LYON ace Karim Benzema has put the Premier League on red alert by admitting he is ready for a fresh challenge abroad. The forward is tipped to replace Thierry Henry as France's main marksman and caught the eye last season with a string of impressive performances in the Champions League. And it seems a move away from the French champions could be on the cards after Benzema, 20, hinted he is ready to quit. He said: “I don’t know the date of my departure or my future destination. England, Spain, Italy — everything is possible." Real Madrid have been linked with a move for the French international but the Spanish giants would face competition from Arsenal and Manchester United. Benzema added: "Real Madrid? Why not? But they are not the only club that could suit me. “Some people think I’m an arrogant and insensitive to the pressure. But my strength is that I know where I’m going to. “I want to win the Ballon d’Or and, to achieve this, I need to win club titles and with France. "When I speak about titles I mean the Champions League. Reaching the quarter-finals or the semi-finals is not enough. “That’s why I’ll need to play for a club that will offer me the chance to win it.” http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1594419.ece

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