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Old 1st July 2008, 15:54   #41 (permalink)
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I can't believe someone would say that. Of course Berbatov is worth more than £12m.
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Old 1st July 2008, 15:58   #42 (permalink)
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I agree. He'd still be a great deal at £13 or 14 million.

Or even £17-20 million. Not that I'd like to sign him.
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Why is everyone bitching and moaning when €100 is being quoted for Ronaldo?
Top players are going for top prices - what a shock.

Saha as a makeweight would have been a possibility I suppose.
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Old 1st July 2008, 16:12   #44 (permalink)
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I agree. He'd still be a great deal at £13 or 14 million.

Or even £17-20 million. Not that I'd like to sign him.
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Old 1st July 2008, 16:14   #45 (permalink)
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I agree. He'd still be a great deal at £13 or 14 million.

Or even £17-20 million. Not that I'd like to sign him.
Agreed. I'd be worried if it the price was 15 or 16 million as well.
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Old 1st July 2008, 16:18   #46 (permalink)
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Why is everyone bitching and moaning when €100 is being quoted for Ronaldo?
Top players are going for top prices - what a shock.

Saha as a makeweight would have been a possibility I suppose.
Probably because Ronaldo is leagues ahead of both of them, as well as being considerably younger than Berbatov, having much more potential to improve and likely playing his career a lot longer. Benzema is still just a young player with a huge potential and good record in France.

Ronaldo at £80 million should mean Benzema at £30 million and Berbatov at £20 million, in my opinion.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:02   #47 (permalink)
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Absolute rubbish
Player prices are all relative. They are not based on any quantifiable assets.

It's all about how much the buyer is prepared to pay and how much they (Spurs) can entice out of them. As a player, he has not broken any records or helped his team win any major trophy or shown himself to be amongst the elite of the best in the world. That's not to say he is not a good player - simply a player in demand and connected to a club (Man Utd)who are one of the most successful and richest.

Spurs bought him from Germany for (what was it) £10m? Add a few more million for doing well in the Premiership and his price should be about £12 to £15m - anything beyond that is simple pure profit.

Also, Spurs have priced him at £25m for a European sale and £35m for a Premiership sale. A massive discrepancy of £10m - the price Spurs bought him for.

Ronaldinho is arguably still one of the best players in the world and roughly the same age as Berbatov yet the better player (Ronaldinho) is priced way below him. Both have attitude problems, both need strong leadership.

That for me, defies all logic and sense.
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Player prices are all relative. They are not based on any quantifiable assets.

It's all about how much the buyer is prepared to pay and how much they (Spurs) can entice out of them. As a player, he has not broken any records or helped his team win any major trophy or shown himself to be amongst the elite of the best in the world. That's not to say he is not a good player - simply a player in demand and connected to a club (Man Utd)who are one of the most successful and richest.

Spurs bought him from Germany for (what was it) £10m? Add a few more million for doing well in the Premiership and his price should be about £12 to £15m - anything beyond that is simple pure profit.

Also, Spurs have priced him at £25m for a European sale and £35m for a Premiership sale. A massive discrepancy of £10m - the price Spurs bought him for.

Ronaldinho is arguably still one of the best players in the world and roughly the same age as Berbatov yet the better player (Ronaldinho) is priced way below him. Both have attitude problems, both need strong leadership.

That for me, defies all logic and sense.


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Old 1st July 2008, 17:13   #49 (permalink)
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Ronaldinho is arguably still one of the best players in the world and roughly the same age as Berbatov yet the better player (Ronaldinho) is priced way below him. Both have attitude problems, both need strong leadership.

That for me, defies all logic and sense.
True that, plus with Ronaldinho you have the added bonus of shirt sales & image rights - the handsome Brazilian seems like a steal when you compare him to £35million Berbatov.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:20   #50 (permalink)
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No offence to Benzema but he isnt worth that much. We will not be so silly to pay them such a high fee.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:47   #51 (permalink)
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I'd rather we paid 48M for Benzema than 35M for Berbatov
I agree if you pay that sum of money. Make us proud.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:50   #52 (permalink)
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True that, plus with Ronaldinho you have the added bonus of shirt sales & image rights - the handsome Brazilian seems like a steal when you compare him to £35million Berbatov.
They're clearly not going to get £35m for him. Only deluded Spur fans, think they are.

I'd say anything up to and around £20m.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:50   #53 (permalink)
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No offence to Benzema but he isnt worth that much. We will not be so silly to pay them such a high fee.
Tbh that's their right to put whatever price they want, it's their player and they are looking to keep him and alert the other teams that if you want him you will have to pay what they want. It's fair cause that's the same thing we are gonna do about Ronaldo. Benzema is also on a contract with them, just renewed last season.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:51   #54 (permalink)
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And if Lyon have slapped a £48m price on Benzema, it means they want to sell. Otherwise they wouldn't mention any price.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:57   #55 (permalink)
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True but I don't think the might of Lyon would have resisted a bid of £40m anyway. I'm not sure they'll sell at anything less than £30m though. They normally get the price they want.
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Old 1st July 2008, 17:58   #56 (permalink)
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No club's daft enough to spend £40 on him.
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Old 1st July 2008, 18:09   #57 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure many clubs will be interested in paying £30m+ either. Its a big risk that.

Which leaves him stuck in one sense. He should get out of the French League though I think, for the benefit of his own career.
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Old 1st July 2008, 18:24   #58 (permalink)
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Benzema at most (imo) is worth £20-22 m
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Old 1st July 2008, 18:43   #59 (permalink)
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No club's daft enough to spend £40 on him.
If Madrid are daft enough to want to pay £80million for Ronaldo, maybe they would see him as a bit of a bargain - but I suppose Madrid dont want to buy players they can develop, they want someone else to do that for them.
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Old 1st July 2008, 18:44   #60 (permalink)
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If Madrid are daft enough to want to pay £80million for Ronaldo, maybe they would see him as bit of a bargain - but I suppose Madrid dont want to buy players they can develop, they want someone else to do that for them.
They haven't got the cash.
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Old 1st July 2008, 20:01   #61 (permalink)
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If we paid £27 million for Rooney then Benzema is in the £20-25 million bracket.
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They're clearly not going to get £35m for him. Only deluded Spur fans, think they are.

I'd say anything up to and around £20m.
It'll be more than £20m. Somewhere between £23m and £27m. Unless Berbatov really vocally pushed for a move, but he won't. He likes Spurs and will try and do right by them, although he'll expect that to be returned if he does truly want to go.
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Benzema at most (imo) is worth £20-22 m
Not really, Benzema is probably worth as much as what we paid for Rooney.

Berbatov isn't worth any more than £15 million.
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Benzema is probably worth as much as what we paid for Rooney.

Berbatov isn't worth any more than £15 million.
ludicrous!

Rooney EXPLODED onto the world scene at euro 2004 at the age of 18, something Benzema failed to do at age 20.

Rooney was proven as being able to cut it in PL, something which Benzema hasn't (though i believe he could, but still).

AND Rooney's English!

how you come to the conclusion that Benzema is worth as much as Rooney was is baffling, Thaw.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 03:30   #65 (permalink)
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They're clearly not going to get £35m for him. Only deluded Spur fans, think they are.

I'd say anything up to and around £20m.
sounds right Spoons.....still think Fergie wants to bring in a young player...but may settle for Berbs if he cannot get the player he wants.
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ludicrous!

Rooney EXPLODED onto the world scene at euro 2004 at the age of 18, something Benzema failed to do at age 20.

Rooney was proven as being able to cut it in PL, something which Benzema hasn't (though i believe he could, but still).

AND Rooney's English!

how you come to the conclusion that Benzema is worth as much as Rooney was is baffling, Thaw.
Benzema is also playing for a far bigger club, doesn't really want to leave, and his club is extremely strong financially so doesn't have to sell.

Whereas Rooney was at Everton, and forced the move through. And it still cost 30m.

If in a year or two Benzema decides that it's time to move on, then his price tag will come down a bit. But as long as he wants to stay there and Lyon want to keep him, it would take silly money.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 09:10   #68 (permalink)
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Think that's what SAF was talking about when he mentioned clubs with ambition not wanting to sell.
I agree, both with SAF and with clubs setting high prices for players they want to hold onto and need to hold onto.

Unless the player comes out and says "I want to leave", the club should protect its interests and its ability to be competitive by holding onto its superstars.

I don't mind that the big clubs, the wealthy clubs like United can go out and buy talent, but I don't think we should be so arrogant as to expect that talent to come cheap.
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More like Day Light Robbery.

Berbatov is not worth more than £12m. Anything more then it is robbery.
Please tell me you are not that stupid?