Berbatov

Doevle · 23rd July 2008, 14:36

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Originally Posted by SATA

Am i in a Dimitar Berbatov thread, or a United vs Arses fan debate thread

Was just going to ask the same question

Wibble · 23rd July 2008, 14:39

I want a toke of whatever Glaston Sur has been smoking.

On second thoughts ..............

RedNome · 23rd July 2008, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Wibble

I want a toke of whatever Glaston Sur has been smoking.

On second thoughts ..............

Ceks got there first Wibbs, he toked the lot the greedy gooner.

poisson · 23rd July 2008, 14:45

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Originally Posted by SATA

Am i in a Dimitar Berbatov thread, or a United vs Arses fan debate thread

FFS, why are you blokes even entertaining those goons

THANK YOU!!

i came in here to see if there was any news on berbatov, instead i see this shit. to be fair though, i did find it slightly amusing! but nevertheless, can we stick to berbatov related topics?

Dr. Dwayne · 23rd July 2008, 14:47

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Originally Posted by poisson

THANK YOU!!

i came in here to see if there was any news on berbatov, instead i see this shit. to be fair though, i did find it slightly amusing! but nevertheless, can we stick to berbatov related topics?

ok, here's one:

Would Arsenal be able to win a European Cup with Berbatov in their squad?

Discuss....

RedNome · 23rd July 2008, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

ok, here's one:

Would Arsenal be able to win a European Cup with Berbatov in their squad?

Discuss....

No.

poisson · 23rd July 2008, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

ok, here's one:

Would Arsenal be able to win a European Cup with Berbatov in their squad?

Discuss....

who?

bcubed · 23rd July 2008, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Sultan

20 Million on each player?

VDS/Foster = 4 Million
Neville/Brown = Free
Evra/O'shea/Silvestre = 10 Million
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evans = Free
Giggs = Free
Scholes = Free
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Nani = 12 Million
Anderson = 12 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million
Rooney = 25 Million
Tevez = Loan
Fletcher = Free

The whole squad averages around 6.75 Million Pounds.

I also was under the impression we actually paid a lot less for Rio. Didn't we do a deal with Leeds to pay the whole lot off in the second installment cos they were fucked, at a big discount?

RedNome · 23rd July 2008, 14:50

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Originally Posted by poisson

who?

You're in the wrong thread, try the Ronaldo one, you can't miss it.

poisson · 23rd July 2008, 14:55

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Originally Posted by RedNome

You're in the wrong thread, try the Ronaldo one, you can't miss it.

who?

Doevle · 23rd July 2008, 14:59

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Originally Posted by RedNome

You're in the wrong thread, try the Ronaldo one, you can't miss it.

Is there a Ronaldo-thread?

Giggsy PO · 23rd July 2008, 15:01

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Originally Posted by bcubed

I also was under the impression we actually paid a lot less for Rio. Didn't we do a deal with Leeds to pay the whole lot off in the second installment cos they were fucked, at a big discount?

The discount was around £ 900 000 if I remember correctly.

edit: So it was a little bit more, but not THAT more

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...29/ai_n9684993

Ceks · 23rd July 2008, 15:16

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Originally Posted by RedRichio

Out of interest which figures are you disputing? The oly inaccuracy I can see there is that Nani and Anderson CAN cost up to around £17m depending on achievement. That's hardly going to bring that average up much.

Working out averages are obviously going to be low if you include the entire squad. I can imagine how low Arsenal's would be, if we included all the players we have recruited for peanuts. The best way is to select the strongest 11, and then calculate averages from those selected players. Perhaps select two or three fringe players who get regular games.

Which will actually be higher than Sultan's 6.75m or whatever it was. I should know, I did all these calculations last year.

Comparing Arsenal & Utd budgets/expenditure is a fools game.

Don't get me wrong, If I was in your position, I would want Utd to spend. Players like Rio & Rooney have been worth every penny, which gives enough justification to continue in the same vein with players like Berbatov.

And If you hadn't noticed, I have been one of the very few on here for the past 6 months saying that spending the money of Berbatov makes very good sense for Utd!

REd FUn DevIl · 23rd July 2008, 15:19

It seems it's all frozen.

Wonder if they will try to keep him or what?

Have they played him in their friendlies?

Escobar · 23rd July 2008, 15:22

So we'll sign Benzema or Villa instead?

giggs-beckham · 23rd July 2008, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Escobar

So we'll sign Benzema or Villa instead?

Sigh, i cant see us signing anyone...

Sultan · 23rd July 2008, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Ceks

Working out averages are obviously going to be low if you include the entire squad. I can imagine how low Arsenal's would be, if we included all the players we have recruited for peanuts. The best way is to select the strongest 11, and then calculate averages from those selected players. Perhaps select two or three fringe players who get regular games.

Which will actually be higher than Sultan's 6.75m or whatever it was. I should know, I did all these calculations last year.

Comparing Arsenal & Utd budgets/expenditure is a fools game.

Don't get me wrong, If I was in your position, I would want Utd to spend. Players like Rio & Rooney have been worth every penny, which gives enough justification to continue in the same vein with players like Berbatov.

And If you hadn't noticed, I have been one of the very few on here for the past 6 months saying that spending the money of Berbatov makes very good sense for Utd!

European Final Team

VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million

Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million

Tevez
Rooney = 25 Million

Average 10 Million.

Giggsy PO · 23rd July 2008, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Sultan

European Final Team

VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million

Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million

Tevez
Rooney = 25 Million

Average 10 Million.

To be fair counting Tevez as "free of charge" is not right.

Fergies Formula · 23rd July 2008, 15:53

Lets stick to berba, ceks has been well and truly dealt with.

I wonder if we will have him in the team by the time the charity shield comes about

Sultan · 23rd July 2008, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Giggsy PO

To be fair counting Tevez as "free of charge" is not right.

Even if we said 20 Million for Tevez, that would average out the first team at less than 12 Million - hardly 20 Million suggested by Ceks.

Mr. Wood · 23rd July 2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Sultan

European Final Team

VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million

Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million

Tevez
Rooney = 25 Million

Average 10 Million.

Transfer fees aren't the only way that players cost us money. Considering how much we pay our players would also be worthwhile, especially seeing as Arsenal are losing players because they refuse to pay them as much as other clubs.

giggs-beckham · 23rd July 2008, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Sultan

European Final Team

VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 28 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million

Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million

Tevez
Rooney = 25 Million

Average 10 Million.

VDS = 2 Million
Brown
Rio = 29 Million
Vidic = 6 Million
Evra = 6 Million

Scholes
Carrick = 18 Million
Hargreaves = 18 Million
Ronaldo = 12 Million

Tevez = 5 million (season loan fee)
Rooney = 27 Million

Average ? Million.

giggs-beckham · 23rd July 2008, 16:22

From the saf ladyman interview

HOW are you getting on with the pursuit of your 'mystery' centre-forward?

We have given up on that (laughs).

Oh noes.

Sarni · 23rd July 2008, 16:34

Pointless debate, the fact that we managed to spend more on players means that we are a bigger and more profitable club than Arsenal which in no way can be considered as a flaw of a football club.

peterstorey · 23rd July 2008, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Sarni

Pointless debate, the fact that we managed to spend more on players means that we are a bigger and more profitable club than Arsenal which in no way can be considered as a flaw of a football club.

You're not more profitable than us.

niMic · 23rd July 2008, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Ceks

I should know, I did all these calculations last year.

Essien?

Marcus · 23rd July 2008, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Jacob

I'm with Marcus, Rooney or Tevez playing beside Berbatov would make them shine even more.

Looks like Sir Alex agrees with us, the Rooney being misused quotes. Where's that tit who disagreed that Rooney can play upfront?

Sarni · 23rd July 2008, 17:31

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

You're not more profitable than us.

We surely have been more profitable than you over the last several years, otherwise we wouldn't be free to spend that much more money than you. Advantages of being a big club are that you earn a lot more money and are able to spend it on players who'd suit the size of the club.

fearghal · 23rd July 2008, 18:07

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

You're not more profitable than us.

Vintage Storey, you come in with one sentence but no proof or development:

Where's your proof of that?

Sultan · 23rd July 2008, 18:16

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Originally Posted by fearghal

Vintage Storey, you come in with one sentence but no proof or development:

Where's your proof of that?

Vintage?

You've just been on these boards a few months...

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Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 11,793	Pointless debate, the fact that we managed to spend more on players means that we are a bigger and more profitable club than Arsenal which in no way can be considered as a flaw of a football club.