Berbatov

bbest · 27th July 2008, 16:36

Didn't Spurs jump on Benitez when he made some comments last summer?

bbest · 27th July 2008, 16:36

Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov never goes to nightclubs and says he prefers to stay at home and feed squirrels from his balcony. (News of the World)

bbest · 27th July 2008, 16:41

I'LL BOMB OUT BERBATOV

Fergie threat to scupper deal over £38Mprice tag EXCLUSIVE

By Steve Bates

Sir Alex Ferguson is close to killing his move for Dimitar Berbatov - with Spurs demanding a whopping £38million.

People Sport has been told Manchester United boss Fergie is now looking at other targets, including Blackburn star Roque Santa Cruz, and the Premier League champs are set to call off a move for the sulky Bulgarian when they return from Nigeria tomorrow.

That is sure to make Berbatov even angrier over Spurs' stance, with the striker and his advisors believing chairman Daniel Levy is jeopardising his chances of a move to play Champions League football.

Fergie felt Berbatov would be the ideal frontman to replace injury-prone Frenchman Louis Saha and take the strike burden off Wayne Rooney.

Now he will consider other options and is a fan of Santa Cruz, who made a big impression in his first year in the Premier League.

Fergie is also tracking Chilean wonderkid Alexis Sanchez.

The 19-year-old's agent, has had contact with the club over a £10m bid for the River Plate forward, although United have been told they will need to cough up more than that. Udinese have offered the youngster a big pay-day, while Juventus and Barcelona are also on his case.

But his preferred destination is United, although they would have to stump up close to £15m.

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footba...name_page.html

Feedingseagulls · 27th July 2008, 16:42

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Hopefully you'll go off and spend £25M on Huntelaar (after the £35m on Tevez) then have to sell Ronaldo to balance the books.

'Hopefully'? Do you mean 'I hope'?

Drifter · 27th July 2008, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbest

I'LL BOMB OUT BERBATOV

Fergie threat to scupper deal over £38Mprice tag EXCLUSIVE

By Steve Bates

Sir Alex Ferguson is close to killing his move for Dimitar Berbatov - with Spurs demanding a whopping £38million.

People Sport has been told Manchester United boss Fergie is now looking at other targets, including Blackburn star Roque Santa Cruz, and the Premier League champs are set to call off a move for the sulky Bulgarian when they return from Nigeria tomorrow.

That is sure to make Berbatov even angrier over Spurs' stance, with the striker and his advisors believing chairman Daniel Levy is jeopardising his chances of a move to play Champions League football.

Fergie felt Berbatov would be the ideal frontman to replace injury-prone Frenchman Louis Saha and take the strike burden off Wayne Rooney.

Now he will consider other options and is a fan of Santa Cruz, who made a big impression in his first year in the Premier League.

Fergie is also tracking Chilean wonderkid Alexis Sanchez.

The 19-year-old's agent, has had contact with the club over a £10m bid for the River Plate forward, although United have been told they will need to cough up more than that. Udinese have offered the youngster a big pay-day, while Juventus and Barcelona are also on his case.

But his preferred destination is United, although they would have to stump up close to £15m.

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footba...name_page.html

Kelvin · 27th July 2008, 16:52

FERGUSON GOES FOR BROKE

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson will take his spending to £56million this week by finally capturing Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov.

Months of bargaining for the Bulgarian striker will pay off for Ferguson when he lands his target at last – just days after United broke the British transfer record with a £32million deal for Carlos Tevez’s permanent move to Old Trafford.

It is understood that Tevez rejected overtures from Real Madrid and one other major European club because he was so happy at Manchester United.

And now the Tevez deal is sorted, talks with Spurs about Berbatov are expected to reach a critical stage within the next 48 hours – with a deal expected by the end of the week.

That would allow Berbatov to link up with his new team-mates when the squad returns from the African pre-season tour.

United face international and domestic competition for Berbatov, with Barcelona, AC Milan, Newcastle and local rivals Manchester City all still hoping to attract the Spurs’ star.

But Ferguson’s position is helped by the fact Berbatov has a heartfelt ambition to perform alongside icons like Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes – and Cristiano Ronaldo if, as looks likely, he stays for another 12 months.

Relations between the two clubs have strained recently – with Spurs complaining to the Premier League about United’s behaviour concerning their interest in Berbatov.

They believe he has become increasingly unsettled by United over the last 12 months.

Spurs haven’t been willing to discuss Berbatov because they couldn’t themselves fix up the first-choice replacement – Zenit St Petersburg hitman Andrei Arshavin.

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson will take his spending to £56million this week by finally capturing Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov.

Months of bargaining for the Bulgarian striker will pay off for Ferguson when he lands his target at last – just days after United broke the British transfer record with a £32million deal for Carlos Tevez’s permanent move to Old Trafford.

It is understood that Tevez rejected overtures from Real Madrid and one other major European club because he was so happy at Manchester United.

And now the Tevez deal is sorted, talks with Spurs about Berbatov are expected to reach a critical stage within the next 48 hours – with a deal expected by the end of the week.

That would allow Berbatov to link up with his new team-mates when the squad returns from the African pre-season tour.

United face international and domestic competition for Berbatov, with Barcelona, AC Milan, Newcastle and local rivals Manchester City all still hoping to attract the Spurs’ star.

But Ferguson’s position is helped by the fact Berbatov has a heartfelt ambition to perform alongside icons like Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes – and Cristiano Ronaldo if, as looks likely, he stays for another 12 months.

Relations between the two clubs have strained recently – with Spurs complaining to the Premier League about United’s behaviour concerning their interest in Berbatov.

They believe he has become increasingly unsettled by United over the last 12 months.

Spurs haven’t been willing to discuss Berbatov because they couldn’t themselves fix up the first-choice replacement – Zenit St Petersburg hitman Andrei Arshavin.

That deal could now be solved if Spurs are willing to pay his £100,000-a-week pay demands.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/54166

Ekeke · 27th July 2008, 16:53

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Originally Posted by 7even

If Berbatov tells Ramos and Levy his intention behind closed doors and then co-operate with Spurs in a good way then they will find a solution for both parties.

Spurs don't want to sell Berb. But keeping an unhappy player is not a good solution in the long run. Both SAF, Ramos, Gill and Levy knows that.

The simple truth is that if Ronaldo, Berbatov or other unhappy players wants to leave it's difficult to stop them. You can maybe keep them one or two more seasons but after that it will be contra productive.

Regarding Berbatov it's obvious that Spurs will benefit from selling him for approx £25m and then find a new motivated player.

Ramos is a very good coach and he know's that if Spurs should challange for the top four in EPL he needs at least eleven 100% motivated players performing at top level.

Berbatov is one of the keys to that because his there top scorer.

Keane is their top scorer and an unmotivated Berbatov has proven to be better for them than any "motivated" player they might sign to replace him this summer. Hence why he had a good season last year and we're willing to pay £20 million for his services.

bbest · 27th July 2008, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Didn't Udinese say they would keep him for the new season?

charleysurf · 27th July 2008, 17:11

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Originally Posted by brophs

Wasn't Henry quite a bit less than that? £16m if memory serves me correctly!?

Yeah, you're right. Makes the idea that Barca would spend more than 20m on Berbatov sound less even less likely. He's not going to sell many shirts in Asia like Henry would.

KeyserSoze · 27th July 2008, 17:12

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Originally Posted by bbest

Didn't Udinese say they would keep him for the new season?

Yes there is that. There is also the fact that he has not played for them yet, is not a striker and nobody has hardly seen him play.

Wont stop him from being the next Marcelo Salas though!

ThatOldRedMagic · 27th July 2008, 17:12

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

Hopefully you'll go off and spend £25M on Huntelaar (after the £35m on Tevez) then have to sell Ronaldo to balance the books.

Selling Ronaldo at nearly any price would damage United's financial position; he is crucial to the brand image of a global club; that's why RM are so desperate for him, in spite of the likelihood that he would not perform nearly as well there. This comes with the territory of being Manchester United (and I'm not saying this is necessarily an entirely good thing, so don't misunderstand me.)

Feedingseagulls · 27th July 2008, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbest

Tabloid News

Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov never goes to nightclubs and says he prefers to stay at home and feed squirrels from his balcony. (News of the World)

'And maybe we'll do
In a squirrel or two,
While we're poisoning pigeons in the park.'

Tom Lehrer

bbest · 27th July 2008, 17:23

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Originally Posted by KeyserSoze

Yes there is that. There is also the fact that he has not played for them yet, is not a striker and nobody has hardly seen him play.

Wont stop him from being the next Marcelo Salas though!

Yes, true.

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Originally Posted by Feedingseagulls

'And maybe we'll do
In a squirrel or two,
While we're poisoning pigeons in the park.'

Tom Lehrer

Feedingseagulls - Eric Cantona-esque

GlastonSpur · 27th July 2008, 17:45

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

If Levy is not considering selling Berbatov then he does not make a public statement implying Berbatovs position at the club is untenable

Yet again you invent something of your own making, then knock it down and imagine that this act shows anything.

No one - and not me - has ever said that Levy isn't considering selling Berbatov - of course he's considering it. That is entirely different from, as you claim, positively wanting to sell Berbatov - is that too difficult for you to understand?

Get it through your head:

1) Spurs don't want to sell Berbatov

2) Spurs don't have to sell Berbatov

3) Spurs will sell Berbatov is an offer is received that's too good to turn down - i.e. an offer that meets Levy's minimum price.

4) Spurs won't sell Berbatov unless an offer is received that's too good to turn down.

5) Spurs won't sell Berbatov unless and until they have tied up a deal for a replacement.

You can keep coming up with your absurd claims - e.g. "Spurs want to sell Berbatov" and "Keane will be a bigger loss than Berbatov" - until you are blue in the face, but it doesn't change the truth.

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

I reckon Fergie would like to use him to fill out his PL and CL winning squad if the price is right.

So Fergie wants him as a squad filler? Right, yeah, if you say so.

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

Levy knows he has an asset that is not worth 25m+ now

You are quite simply one of the most breathtakingly deluded posters I've come across.

devilish · 27th July 2008, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if someone in our Press Office leaked the "exclusive" story to NOTW, about us getting ready to bail on the deal. It's all about upping the ante now.

Spurs are playing a dangerous game and it's about time we put some heat on those cnuts, by making them realise we have other options and they risk being stuck with a seriously pissed off striker who could leave for many millions less, either in January, or the following summer.

It could be even worse. Manchester United may turn their heads towards another player leaving Spurs dealing with a 27 year old unhappy player who would feel he had lost his only occasion of winning serious honours. If Spurs think that in the continent there will be clubs ready to spend 20 millions on 27 years old then they are the most deluded club on the planet. Etoo and Drogba has much bigger names and reputations and yet they are still on the market.

peterstorey · 27th July 2008, 18:39

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

I hope that when i go out tonight, i come across Gemma Atkinson and bed here within seconds. I also hope that she begs me to allow her to become my permanent sex slave.

Hope.

Ronaldo's sloppy seconds. Ewwwwww.

Pogue Mahone · 27th July 2008, 18:40

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Originally Posted by devilish

It could be even worse. Manchester United may turn their heads towards another player leaving Spurs dealing with a 27 year old unhappy player who would feel he had lost his only occasion of winning serious honours. If Spurs think that in the continent there will be clubs ready to spend 20 millions on 27 years old then they are the most deluded club on the planet. Etoo and Drogba has much bigger names and reputations and yet they are still on the market.

Exactly.

Just don't mention this to GS, he'll call you "breathtakingly deluded" (in one of the all-time most pot-calling-kettle moments in history the caf)

bbest · 27th July 2008, 18:48

The Gaffer says he will give the players a three-day rest after the return from Nigeria. So, can we hear something sooner than later?

Trippin_Stoned · 27th July 2008, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drifter

Who is this Sanchez kid? I've not heard anything about him nor have I heard anything about Utd been interested in him.

Feedingseagulls · 27th July 2008, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Trippin_Stoned

Who is this Sanchez kid? I've not heard anything about him nor have I heard anything about Utd been interested in him.

He's the Chilean Espen Hoff.

Kelvin · 27th July 2008, 19:01

berbatov wants to leave like what Levy have said.

charleysurf · 27th July 2008, 19:07

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

Yet again you invent something of your own making, then knock it down and imagine that this act shows anything.

No one - and not me - has ever said that Levy isn't considering selling Berbatov - of course he's considering it. That is entirely different from, as you claim, positively wanting to sell Berbatov - is that too difficult for you to understand?

Get it through your head:

1) Spurs don't want to sell Berbatov

2) Spurs don't have to sell Berbatov

3) Spurs will sell Berbatov is an offer is received that's too good to turn down - i.e. an offer that meets Levy's minimum price.

4) Spurs won't sell Berbatov unless an offer is received that's too good to turn down.

5) Spurs won't sell Berbatov unless and until they have tied up a deal for a replacement.

You can keep coming up with your absurd claims - e.g. "Spurs want to sell Berbatov" and "Keane will be a bigger loss than Berbatov" - until you are blue in the face, but it doesn't change the truth.

The truth? I'm basing my argument on the evidence. The public statement by Levy. You're basing your argument on your delusions. If you don't want to sell a player then you do not put out a public statement which basically says the player is dressing room cancer:

"when a player's head is turned and their commitment is absent, particularly when they occupy key positions such as that of striker, they become a negative influence in a team dressing room in which they were once a positive addition and influence. This is the situation we now have on our hands, with both Dimitar and Robbie having made it clear that they wish to leave for Manchester Utd and Liverpool respectively."

United don't want to sell Ronaldo so you never get Fergie or Gill saying anything like that. When they talk about Ronaldo they say everythings fine. He's happy at United. He's just getting some bad advice. The day Fergie comes out and says that Ronaldo is a "negative influence in the dressing room" is the day we sell him to Madrid. You only put out a statement like Levy did if you are preparing the ground for a sale by making it seem like its the disloyalty of the player and those nasty big clubs that have forced you to sell (even if you are secretly happy to cash in).

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

You are quite simply one of the most breathtakingly deluded posters I've come across.

Coming from you that's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum!

KeyserSoze · 27th July 2008, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Trippin_Stoned

Who is this Sanchez kid? I've not heard anything about him nor have I heard anything about Utd been interested in him.

Just google him and go on Youtube. Its all Drifter did.

kundalini · 27th July 2008, 19:55

"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either." Daniel Levy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...**/7514933.stm

Sarni · 27th July 2008, 19:56

"Ferguson denies making the comments, but the Londoners believe United have broken Premier League rules."

It's clear that Levy made a complaint on the basis of a document that did not exist.

GlastonSpur · 27th July 2008, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilish

It could be even worse. Manchester United may turn their heads towards another player leaving Spurs dealing with a 27 year old unhappy player

Dear oh dear. The desperation of some posters here for MUFC to sign Berbatov has reached such extremes that they've actually managed to convince themselves that Berbatov staying at WHL next season would be some dreadful outcome for Spurs.

I suppose you'll be arguing next that Fergie has Spurs over a barrel, can offer whatever he likes and we'll be forced into accepting

Sarni · 27th July 2008, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

Dear oh dear. The desperation of some posters here for MUFC to sign Berbatov has reached such extremes that they've actually managed to convince themselves that Berbatov staying at WHL next season would be some dreadful outcome for Spurs.

I suppose you'll be arguing next that Fergie has Spurs over a barrel, can offer whatever he likes and we'll be forced into accepting

I think that nobody is desperate here for United to sign Berbatov. We are a big club with great players in the team at the moment and while Berbatov would be a good addition, it's not like anyone on here feels that he's a necessity without which we won't be able to cope.

Trust me, we don't need any of your players to do well. While I rate Berbatov as a very good player, I don't even think that he'd be crucial in our campaign next season simply because we have better players than him in the squad at the moment who will win us games.

27th July 2008, 16:36	#3882 (permalink)
bbest The Caf's worst songwriter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: .................... Posts: 8,015	Tabloid news Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov never goes to nightclubs and says he prefers to stay at home and feed squirrels from his balcony. (News of the World)

27th July 2008, 16:41	#3883 (permalink)
bbest The Caf's worst songwriter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: .................... Posts: 8,015	I'll Bomb Out Berbatov I'LL BOMB OUT BERBATOV Fergie threat to scupper deal over £38Mprice tag EXCLUSIVE By Steve Bates Sir Alex Ferguson is close to killing his move for Dimitar Berbatov - with Spurs demanding a whopping £38million. People Sport has been told Manchester United boss Fergie is now looking at other targets, including Blackburn star Roque Santa Cruz, and the Premier League champs are set to call off a move for the sulky Bulgarian when they return from Nigeria tomorrow. That is sure to make Berbatov even angrier over Spurs' stance, with the striker and his advisors believing chairman Daniel Levy is jeopardising his chances of a move to play Champions League football. Fergie felt Berbatov would be the ideal frontman to replace injury-prone Frenchman Louis Saha and take the strike burden off Wayne Rooney. Now he will consider other options and is a fan of Santa Cruz, who made a big impression in his first year in the Premier League. Fergie is also tracking Chilean wonderkid Alexis Sanchez. The 19-year-old's agent, has had contact with the club over a £10m bid for the River Plate forward, although United have been told they will need to cough up more than that. Udinese have offered the youngster a big pay-day, while Juventus and Barcelona are also on his case. But his preferred destination is United, although they would have to stump up close to £15m. http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footba...name_page.html

27th July 2008, 16:36	#3881 (permalink)
bbest The Caf's worst songwriter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: .................... Posts: 8,015	Didn't Spurs jump on Benitez when he made some comments last summer?

27th July 2008, 16:52	#3886 (permalink)
Kelvin First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,338	FERGUSON GOES FOR BROKE Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson will take his spending to £56million this week by finally capturing Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov. Months of bargaining for the Bulgarian striker will pay off for Ferguson when he lands his target at last – just days after United broke the British transfer record with a £32million deal for Carlos Tevez’s permanent move to Old Trafford. It is understood that Tevez rejected overtures from Real Madrid and one other major European club because he was so happy at Manchester United. And now the Tevez deal is sorted, talks with Spurs about Berbatov are expected to reach a critical stage within the next 48 hours – with a deal expected by the end of the week. That would allow Berbatov to link up with his new team-mates when the squad returns from the African pre-season tour. United face international and domestic competition for Berbatov, with Barcelona, AC Milan, Newcastle and local rivals Manchester City all still hoping to attract the Spurs’ star. But Ferguson’s position is helped by the fact Berbatov has a heartfelt ambition to perform alongside icons like Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes – and Cristiano Ronaldo if, as looks likely, he stays for another 12 months. Relations between the two clubs have strained recently – with Spurs complaining to the Premier League about United’s behaviour concerning their interest in Berbatov. They believe he has become increasingly unsettled by United over the last 12 months. Spurs haven’t been willing to discuss Berbatov because they couldn’t themselves fix up the first-choice replacement – Zenit St Petersburg hitman Andrei Arshavin. Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson will take his spending to £56million this week by finally capturing Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov. Months of bargaining for the Bulgarian striker will pay off for Ferguson when he lands his target at last – just days after United broke the British transfer record with a £32million deal for Carlos Tevez’s permanent move to Old Trafford. It is understood that Tevez rejected overtures from Real Madrid and one other major European club because he was so happy at Manchester United. And now the Tevez deal is sorted, talks with Spurs about Berbatov are expected to reach a critical stage within the next 48 hours – with a deal expected by the end of the week. That would allow Berbatov to link up with his new team-mates when the squad returns from the African pre-season tour. United face international and domestic competition for Berbatov, with Barcelona, AC Milan, Newcastle and local rivals Manchester City all still hoping to attract the Spurs’ star. But Ferguson’s position is helped by the fact Berbatov has a heartfelt ambition to perform alongside icons like Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes – and Cristiano Ronaldo if, as looks likely, he stays for another 12 months. Relations between the two clubs have strained recently – with Spurs complaining to the Premier League about United’s behaviour concerning their interest in Berbatov. They believe he has become increasingly unsettled by United over the last 12 months. Spurs haven’t been willing to discuss Berbatov because they couldn’t themselves fix up the first-choice replacement – Zenit St Petersburg hitman Andrei Arshavin. That deal could now be solved if Spurs are willing to pay his £100,000-a-week pay demands. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/54166

27th July 2008, 18:48	#3898 (permalink)
bbest The Caf's worst songwriter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: .................... Posts: 8,015	The Gaffer says he will give the players a three-day rest after the return from Nigeria. So, can we hear something sooner than later?

27th July 2008, 19:01	#3901 (permalink)
Kelvin First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,338	berbatov wants to leave like what Levy have said.

27th July 2008, 19:55	#3904 (permalink)
kundalini Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,058	"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either." Daniel Levy http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...**/7514933.stm

27th July 2008, 19:56	#3905 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 11,792	"Ferguson denies making the comments, but the Londoners believe United have broken Premier League rules." It's clear that Levy made a complaint on the basis of a document that did not exist.