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Old 1st July 2008, 10:06   #1 (permalink)
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Berbatov - who else wouldnt want him??

Apparently we want him for £23m.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/7482666.stm

Who else wouldnt want him?? I think he is the type of player who would disrupt the team spirit etc when he doesnt play every single game.
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Old 1st July 2008, 10:07   #2 (permalink)
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It is already in the transfer forum. Look around first, gb hates this sort of thing
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Hang Him! Transfer speculation in the main forum is a serious crime around here.
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Old 1st July 2008, 10:51   #4 (permalink)
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It is already in the transfer forum. Look around first, gb hates this sort of thing
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Old 2nd July 2008, 06:46   #5 (permalink)
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He is a big whiney douche bag.

Fuck him.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 06:56   #6 (permalink)
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How he is continually underestimated on this forum and treated like a dressing room cancer is very laughable.

There will be only two logical reasons why any team in the world won't want him..his price tag or him being surplus to requirements. The likes of Arshavin (27, by the way) is treated like some flavour of the month for having a few successful euro games, but the truth is Berbatov is simply a better and more accomplished player than him.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 07:10   #7 (permalink)
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I think he is the type of player who would disrupt the team spirit etc when he doesnt play every single game.
Where does this opinion come from? I see a lot of people think the same.

Berbatov would expect to be a regular starter. But he'd have no problem being on the bench once every three or four games, which is roughly what he would be.

Berbatov, Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo - three of these four would start. They'd all take turns being the one on the bench, with Berbatov and Tevez spending a little more time there than Rooney and Ronaldo. Occasionally all four would start, sometimes only two would start. But all four would be considered first teamers and would start more games than not. And even when they are on the bench, they would almost always end up coming on.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 07:19   #8 (permalink)
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How he is continually underestimated on this forum and treated like a dressing room cancer is very laughable.

There will be only two logical reasons why any team in the world won't want him..his price tag or him being surplus to requirements. The likes of Arshavin (27, by the way) is treated like some flavour of the month for having a few successful euro games, but the truth is Berbatov is simply a better and more accomplished player than him.
It has nothing to do with his skills, and everything to do with his attitude. He is a me first player.

He could be a great for Tottenham and help them break into the big four. He could become a legend there. Instead he wants out where he can be a rotation player for a "bigger" club and then inevitably start making demands about being first choice when he clearly isn't better than Rooney or Tevez. When he doesn't get his way, he will sulk like an impetuous child.

Again, fuck him.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 07:23   #9 (permalink)
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Pathetic thread
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Old 2nd July 2008, 07:26   #10 (permalink)
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He could be a great for Tottenham and help them break into the big four. He could become a legend there. Instead he wants out where he can be a rotation player for a "bigger" club and then inevitably start making demands about being first choice when he clearly isn't better than Rooney or Tevez. When he doesn't get his way, he will sulk like an impetuous child.

Again, fuck him.
The same could be said for Rooney. Carrick. Hargreaves. Basically any player that moves to a bigger club. How is Berbatov any different? If anything he's been more loyal to his team as he's older and been less vocal in wanting to move.

Berbatov is good enough that he should be playing in the CL. If he were younger I have no doubt he'd stay at Spurs and try to get them into the CL, but he knows that he can't leave it much longer.

Also, he probably is better than Tevez. Or at least is a more suitable partner for Rooney. And he might sulk if he was always on the bench, but so would Tevez, Rooney and any other top player. But none of them would have any problem with sensible rotation, which is what we would employ.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 07:28   #11 (permalink)
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:21   #12 (permalink)
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It has nothing to do with his skills, and everything to do with his attitude. He is a me first player.

He could be a great for Tottenham and help them break into the big four. He could become a legend there. Instead he wants out where he can be a rotation player for a "bigger" club and then inevitably start making demands about being first choice when he clearly isn't better than Rooney or Tevez. When he doesn't get his way, he will sulk like an impetuous child.

Again, fuck him.
Shit post mate, they're not even in the champions league. He’s 27, spurs are spurs they are not cracking anything in the 2/3 seasons, that accusation could be made to against any player who signs for us to further their career. To say he isn’t better than Rooney and Tevez is stupid, he doesn’t play with the players they do. He’s a different player, more experienced than both Carlitos and Roonaldo. Also most spurs fans I’ve talked to have said these “attitude problems” that he has had are generally more tabloid bullshit.

You'll soon change your tune if he signs for us.
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Shit post mate, they're not even in the champions league. He’s 27, spurs are spurs they are not cracking anything in the 2/3 seasons, that accusation could be made to against any player who signs for us to further their career. To say he isn’t better than Rooney and Tevez is stupid, he doesn’t play with the players they do. He’s a different player, more experienced than both Carlitos and Roonaldo. Also most spurs fans I’ve talked to have said these “attitude problems” that he has had are generally more tabloid bullshit.

You'll soon change your tune if he signs for us.
Exactly. He is only seen as a 'me first' player because he is at Spurs, obviously he will have an ego. Bring him to United, and his ego will be gone.

The only reason why I wouldn't wnat him at United is his price. If spurs really want 30m+ for him, then I don't think he's worth it
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Shit post mate, they're not even in the champions league. He’s 27, spurs are spurs they are not cracking anything in the 2/3 seasons, that accusation could be made to against any player who signs for us to further their career. To say he isn’t better than Rooney and Tevez is stupid, he doesn’t play with the players they do. He’s a different player, more experienced than both Carlitos and Roonaldo. Also most spurs fans I’ve talked to have said these “attitude problems” that he has had are generally more tabloid bullshit.

You'll soon change your tune if he signs for us.
Spot on post
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:39   #15 (permalink)
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I think it's a strange situation because we know what a talent the guy is. For me if it happens great. He is the type of player that can do a teddy if he wants it enough.

I'm open to who we buy, but if it was berbatov then for once you tube isn't a bad idea to remind yourself how good he can be. However, for his ability he should score more goals and he does have a history (at least in England) of starting seasons slowly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt63U66NOaY top 10 goals by someone

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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:56   #16 (permalink)
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i'd be quite happy if we got berbatov if me miss out on benzema (which is most likely going to happen).

but above chief, you honestly think he's above 25 million pounds?

i think 23 is a fair price and now its up to berbatov to put in a transfer request or not. anything above 25 and it is not really a great deal.

carrick was 3-4 years younger when he came too, which boosted his valuation a little bit.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 12:04   #17 (permalink)
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VoetbalWizard , I also wouldn't want us to pay above 25 million for him. Because considering his age, time left on his contract and actual value to Spurs, 23-25 m should be a fair bid and price. However if Fergie feels he is the man to take us to the next level. I wont compalin about the price. The man is simply quality. Just like Benzema. IMO You dont bargain to secure quality. You simply buy and look forward to reaping what you've sowed.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 12:58   #18 (permalink)
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He has the talent, but not the attitude. The reason a lot of people think this is because plenty of evidence has been provided in the last year or so.

He is a brooding sulker. Great on his day. Similar to Cantona, but we signed Cantona because we needed that inspiration. Todays squad already has plenty to go around.

Berbatov is not the player we need. Let someone else gamble 25m on him.
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He has the talent, but not the attitude. The reason a lot of people think this is because plenty of evidence has been provided in the last year or so.

He is a brooding sulker. Great on his day. Similar to Cantona, but we signed Cantona because we needed that inspiration. Todays squad already has plenty to go around.

Berbatov is not the player we need. Let someone else gamble 25m on him.
Agree with the Cantona comparison, and yes we do have inspirational players but not really at his age bracket. When Giggs and Scholes are gone I think Berbatov if signed would provide this. Rooney, Ronaldo, Nani will still be relatively young. Its the transfer fee than I dont really agree with. It is alot of money but the one he certainly isnt is a gamble. Proven quality ready to reach the next level which IMO he'll do if he plays for us.
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Wouldn't want him.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 13:44   #21 (permalink)
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Berbatov is not the player we need. Let someone else gamble 25m on him.
Berbatov can simply never be a gamble. That much is pretty obvious
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Old 2nd July 2008, 13:46   #22 (permalink)
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He has a bad attitude. I hope we don't go for him. Spurs would naturally screw us on the price as well.
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Wheres Glastonspur and we clear up this attitude shite?

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Funny how people are going on about his attitude problem as though they were playing in the same team before.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 14:23   #25 (permalink)
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his attitude is a myth. If you read his body language, you'd think he was sleeping. As for price, when your talking a few extra million what does it even matter? Their worth is returned by what they produce on the pitch and clearly he would fit in.
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Wheres Glastonspur and we clear up this attitude shite?
Glaston's not surprsingly a fan boy - you won't get a balanced opinion off him. A lot of these views of Berbatov seem to me to be too influenced by his languid style. He gets over praised because he's an elegant player and for the same reason slagged off because he doesn't run around a lot.
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Glaston's not surprsingly a fan boy - you won't get a balanced opinion off him. A lot of these views of Berbatov seem to me to be too influenced by his languid style. He gets over praised because he's an elegant player and for the same reason slagged off because he doesn't run around a lot.
All very true.
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chelsea will bid 30 mill just to sit him on the bench
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Unfortunately i used to work with a spurs fan and myth of him not being bothered sometimes is true, though as a season ticket holder he said "berb" produces in 75% of games over the season and even when not firing on all cylinders he still manages to create a goal with a flick or chipped past. Now if we are honest cantona was a mood player and wouldn't always give 100% over a season, yet we all hold him up as creative genius. Berb is also deceptively fast, though the myth would have him as slow.

The lad need a proper stage and OT is it, and if he comes i will look forward to sitting in the stands and watching him play.
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Agree with the Cantona comparison, and yes we do have inspirational players but not really at his age bracket. When Giggs and Scholes are gone I think Berbatov if signed would provide this. Rooney, Ronaldo, Nani will still be relatively young.
If Berbatov was a natural leader, I would agree with you. He is anything but though. I don't think we can afford another 'hands on hips' type of player in our forward line. If Berbatov had a quarter of Tevez's heart, he would be the most sought after player in world football.
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