Berbatov - who else wouldnt want him??

Striker10 · 3rd July 2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You are free to disagree. Don't get me wrong, I rate Berbatov very highly but having followed them both since they started. I have no doubt that on top form, Zlatan is something else. Cantona reborn I tell you

yeah but you could argue Berbatov is more on form more often then Zlatan is

Right now i'd want either Ronaldinho or Berbetov personally. Berbetov, could play at the top for another 6+ years. I hope we make one if not both

, happen. Let's just get it done, put it to bed.

The simple truth is zlatan..berbatov...you can't really lose. Both have quality but berb has premiership experience and for me is more consistant

Lawman · 3rd July 2008, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You are free to disagree. Don't get me wrong, I rate Berbatov very highly but having followed them both since they started. I have no doubt that on top form, Zlatan is something else. Cantona reborn I tell you. He or Berbatov are the only two men I would want for us upfront above all others.

I do agree on the whole though, Berbatov would be awesome and with his footballing brain he could play well into his mid thirty's barring injuries. I think Zlatan is one of these players you love or hate and personally i'd hate to have him here over Berbatov although like I said in the previous post there is no doubt he's a top player just not a player Im fond off a bit like Ashley Cole if that comparison makes any kind off sense.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 3rd July 2008, 16:16

It makes sense Lawman. Almost everyone sees Zlatan as one of the most dislike able characters in football. But he is darn superb as a player

VoetbalWizard · 3rd July 2008, 16:20

i think the zlatan ashley cole comparisons are proposterous.

zlatan has proper swagger. he is fit to wear the united shirt.

ashley cole is a pillock

rooney__10 · 3rd July 2008, 16:21

Berbatov is way more consistent than zlatan. Agreed its difficult to tell whos better when both on top form but who wants a bloody zlatan who's only good now and then, however he did well in the euros.

Berbabtov has the best first touch though, no question.

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 16:27

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Originally Posted by rooney__10

Berbatov is way more consistent than zlatan. Agreed its difficult to tell whos better when both on top form but who wants a bloody zlatan who's only good now and then, however he did well in the euros.

Berbabtov has the best first touch though, no question.

Absolute bollocks. Berbatov disappears from games completely at times and I would regard that as showing inconsistency. Ibrahimovic is the better player in almost every area.

Striker10 · 3rd July 2008, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Absolute bollocks. Berbatov disappears from games completely at times and I would regard that as showing inconsistency. Ibrahimovic is the better player in almost every area.

prove it...

Lawman · 3rd July 2008, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

It makes sense Lawman. Almost everyone sees Zlatan as one of the most dislike able characters in football. But he is darn superb as a player

Makes me laugh when people are posting things like is he\any better than Tevez? We went through this debate with Hargreaves and Carrick and also Rooney and Tevez last year with people posting that these players were too similar. Well imo to be arguing these points prove to me any player of this quality should be signed if possible. As without Hargreaves and Tevez contribution last year we could have possibly ended up with no silverwear, but instead we are europeon and domestic Champions!

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Striker10

prove it...

He's faster, stronger, better dribbler, better at heading, better movement in behind.

Berbatov just has a better touch and better vision for me. Doesn't change the fact he is a top class player who is unbelievable to watch at times.

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Absolute bollocks. Berbatov disappears from games completely at times and I would regard that as showing inconsistency. Ibrahimovic is the better player in almost every area.

Pot
Kettle
Black

To suggest that Berbatov goes missing and use it as an argument in favour of Ibrahimovic is the biggest load of shite I've ever read

EVERY SINGLE GAME I've EVER seen Ibrahimovic play in be it for Ajax, Juventus, Inter or Sweden he has been worse than useless! Even the games I have watched that he's actually scored in he's been utter tripe before and afterwards

Ibrahimovic is the biggest overrated piece of shit in football

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Pot
Kettle
Black

To suggest that Berbatov goes missing and use it as an argument in favour of Ibrahimovic is the biggest load of shite I've ever read

EVERY SINGLE GAME I've EVER seen Ibrahimovic play in be it for Ajax, Juventus, Inter or Sweden he has been worse than useless! Even the games I have watched that he's actually scored in he's been utter tripe before and afterwards

Ibrahimovic is the biggest overrated piece of shit in football

Exactly. Both do it. That was my point.

Both are fairly inconsistent, but both have come on leaps and bounds in that area in the last few years.

Lawman · 3rd July 2008, 16:44

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Pot
Kettle
Black

To suggest that Berbatov goes missing and use it as an argument in favour of Ibrahimovic is the biggest load of shite I've ever read

EVERY SINGLE GAME I've EVER seen Ibrahimovic play in be it for Ajax, Juventus, Inter or Sweden he has been worse than useless! Even the games I have watched that he's actually scored in he's been utter tripe before and afterwards

Ibrahimovic is the biggest overrated piece of shit in football

Charlenfan personally im not a big Zlatan fan but your opinion is well wide of the mark, the guy is a top player and to say he's been worse than useless in every game youv'e watched him suggests you must have seen 1 game he's played at the most.

7even · 3rd July 2008, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

You are free to disagree. Don't get me wrong, I rate Berbatov very highly but having followed them both since they started. I have no doubt that on top form, Zlatan is something else. Cantona reborn I tell you. He or Berbatov are the only two men I would want for us upfront above all others.

Agree! Look at post #77

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Lawman

Charlenfan personally im not a big Zlatan fan but your opinion is well wide of the mark, the guy is a top player and to say he's been worse than useless in every game youv'e watched him suggests you must have seen 1 game he's played at the most.

2 games against Liverpool last season he was shite in both
3 games for Sweden in the Euros he was shite in all 3
2 games for Juve against Arsenal a few years back he was shite in both
2 games for Juve against Liverpool a few years back he was shite in both
4 games for Sweden in the World Cup 2006 he was shite in all 4

Do you want me to reel off anymore? They're the ones that came to me straight away but I'm sure I can think of many many more

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 16:55

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

2 games against Liverpool last season he was shite in both
3 games for Sweden in the Euros he was shite in all 3
2 games for Juve against Arsenal a few years back he was shite in both
2 games for Juve against Liverpool a few years back he was shite in both
4 games for Sweden in Euro 2004 he was shite in all 4

Do you want me to reel off anymore? They're the ones that came to me straight away but I'm sure I can think of many many more

Those two statements show that you just don't like him rather than him being overrated.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 3rd July 2008, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Lawman

Makes me laugh when people are posting things like is he\any better than Tevez? We went through this debate with Hargreaves and Carrick and also Rooney and Tevez last year with people posting that these players were too similar. Well imo to be arguing these points prove to me any player of this quality should be signed if possible. As without Hargreaves and Tevez contribution last year we could have possibly ended up with no silverwear, but instead we are europeon and domestic Champions!

True

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 3rd July 2008, 16:57

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

2 games against Liverpool last season he was shite in both
3 games for Sweden in the Euros he was shite in all 3
.............

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 3rd July 2008, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Those two statements show that you just don't like him rather than him being overrated.

Spot on

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Those two statements show that you just don't like him rather than him being overrated.

Oh yeah whys that then?

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 18:34

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Oh yeah whys that then?

He was good in those particular matches, that's fairly obvious to most people.

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Brwned

He was good in those particular matches, that's fairly obvious to most people.

So you're telling me he was good against Liverpool?

Brwned · 3rd July 2008, 18:39

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

So you're telling me he was good against Liverpool?

No, you're right. He was awful, he missed so many chances and was basically invisible even though Inter had all of the possession.

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Brwned

No, you're right. He was awful, he missed so many chances and was basically invisible even though Inter had all of the possession.

Seriously if you think that then get your eyes tested because in 120 minutes worth of football he barely even touched the ball

Same goes for Sweden's games at the Euros against Greece, Spain and Russia - the only thing I will cut him any slack on is he only played 1 half against Spain

7even · 3rd July 2008, 19:07

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Seriously if you think that then get your eyes tested because in 120 minutes worth of football he barely even touched the ball

Same goes for Sweden's games at the Euros against Greece, Spain and Russia - the only thing I will cut him any slack on is he only played 1 half against Spain

Well, if you are serious we see two different players. My Zlatan is in the same level as Drogba, Adebayor, Benzema and Torres.

I think that's why Moratti pays Ibra top dollars (or €). But hence, he never watch Inter play, he just pay the arrogant cnut.....

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 3rd July 2008, 19:07

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Seriously if you think that then get your eyes tested because in 120 minutes worth of football he barely even touched the ball
........

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

How about actually proving me wrong by naming anything meaningful he did in either game

If you can that is

charlenefan · 3rd July 2008, 19:11

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Originally Posted by 7even

Well, if you are serious we see two different players. My Zlatan is in the same level as Drogba, Adebayor, Benzema and Torres.

Your Zlatan can only be based on FM, Pro Evo or Youtube

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Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 20,139	It makes sense Lawman. Almost everyone sees Zlatan as one of the most dislike able characters in football. But he is darn superb as a player

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VoetbalWizard Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,246	i think the zlatan ashley cole comparisons are proposterous. zlatan has proper swagger. he is fit to wear the united shirt. ashley cole is a pillock

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rooney__10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,272	Berbatov is way more consistent than zlatan. Agreed its difficult to tell whos better when both on top form but who wants a bloody zlatan who's only good now and then, however he did well in the euros. Berbabtov has the best first touch though, no question.

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