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Old 23rd April 2009, 00:30   #1 (permalink)
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Brazilian Teenager Dodo To Join United

Sir Alex Ferguson is signing a Brazilian teenager – Corinthians centre-half Jose Rodolfo Pires Ribeiro Dodo.

Fergie’s South American contacts tipped him off about the 17-year-old, who is set to follow compatriots Rafael and Fabio Da Silva to Manchester United.

Dodo has starred for Brazil in the South American Under-17 championships, helping his country to two clean sheets so far.


The tall and skilful left-footer is strong in the air and talented on the ball, likened to Rio Ferdinand by those who have seen him come through the ranks.

Sources say he has an EC passport through his Portuguese background.

United will pay Corinthians a small fee at first but the deal could be worth around £5m if he makes the grade.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...5875-21298685/
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Old 23rd April 2009, 00:34   #2 (permalink)
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Just what we need with the 6+5 rule a reality - more young foreigners.
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He'll die out before he plays for us.
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Old 23rd April 2009, 00:44   #4 (permalink)
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I heard he's very quick, often leaves opposing strikers for dead
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How many Brazilians would he have?? Rafael, Fabio, Anderson, Possebon, and then Dodo. We should start a Portuguese speaking team add Ronaldo, Nani, and Manucho and other random 3 players including John O'shea on the goal, John O'shea in defence, and John O'shea in attack.
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If he spends enough years with us before the age of 19 (or was it 21) doesn't he count as home grown?
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Great news........
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Old 23rd April 2009, 01:57   #8 (permalink)
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He'll die out before he plays for us.

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Old 23rd April 2009, 05:30   #9 (permalink)
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FFS! When are we going to finally sign a Brazilian with a cool name ?
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FFS! When are we going to finally sign a Brazilian with a cool name ?
For example? An "ihno"??
We can call him Dodinho although it sounds like the one I'd use for my gold fish.
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How many Brazilians would he have?? Rafael, Fabio, Anderson, Possebon, and then Dodo. We should start a Portuguese speaking team add Ronaldo, Nani, and Manucho and other random 3 players including John O'shea on the goal, John O'shea in defence, and John O'shea in attack.
Isn't he now the Brazilian born Italian......


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FFS! When are we going to finally sign a Brazilian with a cool name ?
What's wrong with Fabio? Class.
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Hope he's not shit like the animal...
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We should be signing Brazilian forwards not central defenders.
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FM says he is a LB/WB

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If he spends enough years with us before the age of 19 (or was it 21) doesn't he count as home grown?
Yep, 3 years before the age of 21 to qualify as a home grown player.
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I thought I heard it all with "Kaka" and there is a "Dodo"
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We should be signing Brazilian forwards not central defenders.
Agreed!

Brazil really aren't the best at producing world class centre backs are they! Remember that clown who played at Leeds having played CB in a world cup for Brazil? Can't think of his name but by christ he was poor!
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Yep, 3 years before the age of 21 to qualify as a home grown player.
Easy, just get them young enough and we will have plenty of "homegrown" players (unless they forbid to buy youngsters younger than 18)
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Agreed!

Brazil really aren't the best at producing world class centre backs are they! Remember that clown who played at Leeds having played CB in a world cup for Brazil? Can't think of his name but by christ he was poor!
Even their first choice centrback Lucio is quite capable of more than the odd cockups.
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Excellent news if true. According to Google Images, here's a picture of him:

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We have, we've got Fletchildinho!
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Couldn't find him on wiki, anyone know much about him?
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Couldn't find him on wiki, anyone know much about him?
Football-talent.com gives him a rating of three balls. Not very impressive.
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This appears to be an hour-long feature on Brazil's U17 squad, including Dodo. Unfortunately you can only watch it if you're able to pretend you're in Brazil.
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People seem to be getting confused as to the difference between the "home grown" rule and the "6+5" rule.

The homegrown rule is what we have at the moment - clubs must have a certain number (I think it's six) players registered for Europe who have spent at least three years at that club between the ages of seventeen and twenty-one. It doesn't matter what nationality they are as long as they've been at the club, and it only affects European competition.

The 6+5 rule, on the other hand, works differently. I'm not sure if it's replacing the homegrown rule or not, but it's certainly not the same thing. The 6+5 rule demands that in your starting eleven you must have six players who can play for the national team of your own association. So for Manchester United that means Englishmen, for AC Milan it means Italians, Barcelona - Spaniards, Lyon - Frenchmen, and so on. It also affects all competitions, not just European ones (so the Premiership as well as the Champion's League). It's a big, big deal, and clubs need to start getting in English talent.

So all these Brazilians we're getting it at sixteen or whatever might be great right now, because they're young enough to meet the homegrown requirement in five years, but it'll actually do us not good in five years, because then we'll need a predominantly English side.
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People seem to be getting confused as to the difference between the "home grown" rule and the "6+5" rule.

The homegrown rule is what we have at the moment - clubs must have a certain number (I think it's six) players registered for Europe who have spent at least three years at that club between the ages of seventeen and twenty-one. It doesn't matter what nationality they are as long as they've been at the club, and it only affects European competition.

The 6+5 rule, on the other hand, works differently. I'm not sure if it's replacing the homegrown rule or not, but it's certainly not the same thing. The 6+5 rule demands that in your starting eleven you must have six players who can play for the national team of your own association. So for Manchester United that means Englishmen, for AC Milan it means Italians, Barcelona - Spaniards, Lyon - Frenchmen, and so on. It also affects all competitions, not just European ones (so the Premiership as well as the Champion's League). It's a big, big deal, and clubs need to start getting in English talent.

So all these Brazilians we're getting it at sixteen or whatever might be great right now, because they're young enough to meet the homegrown requirement in five years, but it'll actually do us not good in five years, because then we'll need a predominantly English side.
a) The ruling will probably be thrown out in the courts because it's stupid.
b) Even if we don't want him any more what's to stop us making a profit on him selling him to some Portuguese team or whatever?

Worry about it when it happens FFS.
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a) The ruling will probably be thrown out in the courts because it's stupid.
b) Even if we don't want him any more what's to stop us making a profit on him selling him to some Portuguese team or whatever?

Worry about it when it happens FFS.
a) You can't assume that and personally I don't think it is stupid.
b) Because Portuguese teams will be in a vastly better position regarding foreigners, what with Brazil being a part of Portugal and all.

And I'll worry about it now because it's happening in three years. Hardly an age away - this kid will barely have time to make an impact before he suddenly has to be good enough to earn one of those five spots.
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There is no way they can get that 6+5 rule thing through, the EU will make Blatter realise how unimportant he actually is.
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a) You can't assume that and personally I don't think it is stupid.
b) Because Portuguese teams will be in a vastly better position regarding foreigners, what with Brazil being a part of Portugal and all.

And I'll worry about it now because it's happening in three years. Hardly an age away - this kid will barely have time to make an impact before he suddenly has to be good enough to earn one of those five spots.
b) which part of him having a Portuguese passport did you fail to understand?
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6+5 will not get through and it IS stupid.
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He plays at LB in the U17 thing now. Look out for number 6 here and here (I couldn't see him). He is reported to almost score from corners all the time, but his headers aren't in the highlights.
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How many Brazilians would he have?? Rafael, Fabio, Anderson, Possebon, and then Dodo. We should start a Portuguese speaking team add Ronaldo, Nani, and Manucho and other random 3 players including John O'shea on the goal, John O'shea in defence, and John O'shea in attack.
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