Chelsea release Ballack & Joe Cole

SecondFig · 8th June 2010, 23:13

According to John Cross at the Mirror:

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Joe Cole and Michael Ballack released by #Chelsea. Ballack will surely go back to Germany. Still don't think Cole's going to #Arsenal

Big-Red · 8th June 2010, 23:14

If true, I reckon we'll have Joe.

Ballack can retire.

Bread · 8th June 2010, 23:16

would be a very strange thing to report if not true

SecondFig · 8th June 2010, 23:18

About 15 minutes ago Jason Burt of the Telegraph was reporting that it would soon be clear where Cole wouldn't be next season - looks like that was this release.

The Flying Potato · 8th June 2010, 23:19

I wouldnt be surprised if Ballack when Stateside

VoetbalWizard · 8th June 2010, 23:20

mclaren should snap up ballack but i doubt wolfsburg can afford his wages.

then again maybe not since VW has been splashing cash left right and centre in aquiring all sorts of companies this past year.

niMic · 8th June 2010, 23:21

Might this mean we'll snap up Cole?

BaldwinLegend · 8th June 2010, 23:23

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Originally Posted by The Flying Potato

I wouldnt be surprised if Ballack when Stateside

Doubt it - he's got one big Bundesliga contract left in him first.

SecondFig · 8th June 2010, 23:23

Being reported by several other journalists now too, appears to be true. Apparently reducing wage-bill and rejuvenating the squad

Donut · 8th June 2010, 23:24

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Originally Posted by niMic

Might this mean we'll snap up Cole?

Sure hope so

The only reason I can see for him to choose Arsenal is because he can stay in London. Other then that, United is the obvious choice for so many other reasons.

Ole's_toe_poke · 8th June 2010, 23:25

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Originally Posted by SecondFig

Being reported by several other journalists now too, appears to be true. Apparently reducing wage-bill and rejuvenating the squad

How will they reduce the wage bill when they'll spend 20 million or so finding a replacement and paying that player 100 grand a week.

Allforone · 8th June 2010, 23:26

If this is true then its very odd considering Ray Wilkins said less than 48 hours ago how Ancelotti was very keen to keep Cole at the club.

Still, please get in their fergie!!

Bread · 8th June 2010, 23:27

we want cole!

SecondFig · 8th June 2010, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Allforone

If this is true then its very odd considering Ray Wilkins said less than 48 hours ago how Ancelotti was very keen to keep Cole at the club.

Still, please get in their fergie!!

Well there's journalists from the Guardian, Telegraph and Mirror reporting it. Seems legit, and not all that surprising, Cole started contract negotiations months ago and they've never looked remotely close to agreeing terms. Ballack is ageing and has offered increasingly little to the Chelsea midfield. Both had been re-negotiating their contracts, but with Abramovich wanting to reduce the wage bill and inject some youth both were looking at wage cuts.

Both players will leave at the end of the month when their contracts expire.

uae · 8th June 2010, 23:32

Ballack's been linked with a couple of clubs over here

Allforone · 8th June 2010, 23:36

Ballack makes sense, i think everyone expected him to be released at the earliest opportunity, the only reason im surprised they’ve supposedly released Joe Cole is because as ive said only very recently were the management staff talking very positively about keeping him at the club and giving him a new deal…...seems an odd move to then basically chuck him out the club les than 2 full days later whilst hes away at the world cup, seems odd doesn’t it?

I always expected Cole to leave on a free, but i didn’t expect Chelsea to release him so soon after their recent comments, something must have happened.

Either way lets hope Sir Alex gets in there, the chance to sign a player of that quality with the exact skill set and positional expertise we requiring for absolutely nothing is surely to good to turn your nose up toward.

Ekeke · 8th June 2010, 23:36

Ballack to City, Cole to United

SecondFig · 8th June 2010, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Allforone

Ballack makes sense, i think everyone expected him to be released at the earliest opportunity, the only reason im surprised they’ve supposedly released Joe Cole is because as ive said only very recently were the management staff talking very positively about keeping him at the club and giving him a new deal…...seems an odd move to then basically chuck him out the club les than 2 full days later whilst hes away at the world cup, seems odd doesn’t it?

I always expected Cole to leave on a free, but i didn’t expect Chelsea to release him so soon after their recent comments, something must have happened.

Either way lets hope Sir Alex gets in there, the chance to sign a player of that quality with the exact skill set and positional expertise we requiring for absolutely nothing is surely to good to turn your nose up toward.

At a complete guess, perhaps Wilkins genuinely wanted Cole to stay - but he doesn't have any say in the matter when it comes to salary negotiations and Abramovich has spoken.

Bread · 8th June 2010, 23:38

could this be a possible agent rings up chelsea "joe is getting dsitracted in SA, he isnt going to sign with you unless he gets his wage demands, if you arent going to ffer then release him so we can get a new club before englands first game"

duffer · 8th June 2010, 23:38

Nothing on Sky sports news or the BBC about this. Hoping (in Coles case) it's BS.

Allforone · 8th June 2010, 23:40

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Ballack to City, Cole to United

You hope, you think or you know?

I hope your right on both counts.

Bread · 8th June 2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Allforone

You hope, you think or you know?

I hope your right on both counts.

If i ever hear the name you call, and if i stumble catch me when i fall.

Allforone · 8th June 2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by SecondFig

At a complete guess, perhaps Wilkins genuinely wanted Cole to stay - but he doesn't have any say in the matter when it comes to salary negotiations and Abramovich has spoken.

Oh yeah dont get me wrong i know Wilkins has no say in any matter such as this at the club, hes merely the monkey, but just seemed strange timing thats all, i hope its true of course, i want Cole at United.

Brophs · 8th June 2010, 23:43

Ballack will probably end up at Milan to add a bit of youth to their ageing squad.

Ekeke · 8th June 2010, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Allforone

You hope, you think or you know?

I hope your right on both counts.

Just a prediction. City like to sign premier league winners with experience and if they thought Vieira could do a job then Ballack can certainly do a job. They'll be the biggest cash offer and theres no reason he'd turn that down. He took the money to go to Chelsea so...

With Cole I think the champions league would be a major factor for a player in his prime, so he could resist City a bit more. And of the rest we'd probably offer him the best money and best chance of success. So I expect now that Chelsea have conceeded his time there is over, we'll make our move.

wr8_utd · 8th June 2010, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Ballack will probably end up at Milan to add a bit of youth to their ageing squad.

BaldwinLegend · 8th June 2010, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

City like to sign premier league winners with experience and if they thought Vieira could do a job then Ballack can certainly do a job.

Sorry, that's just plain idiotic. They bought Vieira because he is, irrefutably, a Premiership Legend - perhaps one of the top 3 midfielders to bestride the League in it's history. He was brought in as much for his experience as for his ability - and by the way he played some lovely stuff for City last year.

Ballack is far from being a great or even good PL player - he'd just get in the way up there.

Allforone · 8th June 2010, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Just a prediction. City like to sign premier league winners with experience and if they thought Vieira could do a job then Ballack can certainly do a job. They'll be the biggest cash offer and theres no reason he'd turn that down. He took the money to go to Chelsea so...

With Cole I think the champions league would be a major factor for a player in his prime, so he could resist City a bit more. And of the rest we'd probably offer him the best money and best chance of success. So I expect now that Chelsea have conceeded his time there is over, we'll make our move.

Lets hops so, he really is tailor made for what were lacking at the moment…..i think, especially in the bigger matches away from Old trafford he in that in-between position just off Rooney would be perfect for the way we look to play in those games, quick counter attacking football in the final third, ball carriers and interchangeable players swapping positions, as we know Coles more than capable of playing from either flank as well which would mean we wouldnt have to worry to much about injuries to one of Nani or Valencia heavily weakening our wide options.

Ish84045 · 9th June 2010, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Allforone

Lets hops so, he really is tailor made for what were lacking at the moment…..i think, especially in the bigger matches away from Old trafford he in that in-between position just off Rooney would be perfect for the way we look to play in those games, quick counter attacking football in the final third, ball carriers and interchangeable players swapping positions, as we know Coles more than capable of playing from either flank as well which would mean we wouldnt have to worry to much about injuries to one of Nani or Valencia heavily weakening our wide options.

This sums it up really.

Alex · 9th June 2010, 00:21

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Originally Posted by The Flying Potato

I wouldnt be surprised if Ballack when Stateside

He is far too good for that, I reckon he still has a few more years at a top club in Italy or Germany

Name Changed · 9th June 2010, 01:14

Ballack could quite conceivably end up back home.

Lailiani · 9th June 2010, 01:22

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Originally Posted by Name Changed

Ballack could quite conceivably end up back home.

Schalke or Bremen, can't see any other realistic German destination for him. Wolfsburg can't afford him and they won't play in the CL.

Ramshock · 9th June 2010, 01:28

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Originally Posted by duffer

Nothing on Sky sports news or the BBC about this. Hoping (in Coles case) it's BS.

Chelsea release Joe Cole and Michael Ballack | Football | The Guardian

MrMarcello · 9th June 2010, 01:30

How can Chelsea release players whose contracts have expired? Makes little sense to me. It's like saying United sold Tevez.

I see Ballack returning to Germany.

Alex · 9th June 2010, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Lailiani

Schalke or Bremen, can't see any other realistic German destination for him. Wolfsburg can't afford him and they won't play in the CL.

What about FC Bayern?

Flying Fox · 9th June 2010, 01:34

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

How can Chelsea release players whose contracts have expired? Makes little sense to me. It's like saying United sold Tevez.

I see Ballack returning to Germany.

Their contracts would have expired on the 30th, no?

Lailiani · 9th June 2010, 01:34

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Originally Posted by Alex

What about FC Bayern?

They don't want him and they don't need him.

Devil may care · 9th June 2010, 01:35

Wouldn't be surprised if Harry fancied Ballack to add experience for their CL campaign. I guess Cole will end up here or at Arsenal unless City offer him big wages.

MrMarcello · 9th June 2010, 01:37

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Originally Posted by Flying Fox

Their contracts would have expired on the 30th, no?

They've already played their final contracted season so it's moot if a club "release" them three weeks prior to 1 July.

Basically the club have chosen to not resign the players and allow them to enter "free agency." They haven't released them in the spirit of how contracts work.

mariachi-19 · 9th June 2010, 02:04

How hard would it have been for Chelsea to give both a contract during the season and selling them for a pretty penny at seasons end. There's a good 15 mil worth of players there.

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8th June 2010, 23:14	#2 (permalink)
Big-Red First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crystal Palace(SM League) Posts: 8,676	If true, I reckon we'll have Joe. Ballack can retire.

8th June 2010, 23:16	#3 (permalink)
Bread First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salford, Manchester Posts: 5,434	would be a very strange thing to report if not true

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SecondFig First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober Posts: 5,720	About 15 minutes ago Jason Burt of the Telegraph was reporting that it would soon be clear where Cole wouldn't be next season - looks like that was this release.

8th June 2010, 23:19	#5 (permalink)
The Flying Potato Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The air. Posts: 12,363	I wouldnt be surprised if Ballack when Stateside

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VoetbalWizard First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at the altar of ryan giggs Posts: 10,452	mclaren should snap up ballack but i doubt wolfsburg can afford his wages. then again maybe not since VW has been splashing cash left right and centre in aquiring all sorts of companies this past year.

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niMic may peace and blessings of God be upon me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: And I'm all out of bubblegum. Posts: 10,781	Might this mean we'll snap up Cole?

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SecondFig First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober Posts: 5,720	Being reported by several other journalists now too, appears to be true. Apparently reducing wage-bill and rejuvenating the squad

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Allforone First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United could spend £85million on David De Gea, Phil Jones, Ashley Young and Wesley Sneijder. Quote: Liverpool spent £85million on Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing. Posts: 11,646	If this is true then its very odd considering Ray Wilkins said less than 48 hours ago how Ancelotti was very keen to keep Cole at the club. Still, please get in their fergie!!

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Bread First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salford, Manchester Posts: 5,434	we want cole!

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uae Desperately wants a tagline under his name Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dubai Posts: 10,288	Ballack's been linked with a couple of clubs over here

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Allforone First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United could spend £85million on David De Gea, Phil Jones, Ashley Young and Wesley Sneijder. Quote: Liverpool spent £85million on Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing. Posts: 11,646	Ballack makes sense, i think everyone expected him to be released at the earliest opportunity, the only reason im surprised they’ve supposedly released Joe Cole is because as ive said only very recently were the management staff talking very positively about keeping him at the club and giving him a new deal…...seems an odd move to then basically chuck him out the club les than 2 full days later whilst hes away at the world cup, seems odd doesn’t it? I always expected Cole to leave on a free, but i didn’t expect Chelsea to release him so soon after their recent comments, something must have happened. Either way lets hope Sir Alex gets in there, the chance to sign a player of that quality with the exact skill set and positional expertise we requiring for absolutely nothing is surely to good to turn your nose up toward.

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Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,739	Ballack to City, Cole to United

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Bread First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salford, Manchester Posts: 5,434	could this be a possible agent rings up chelsea "joe is getting dsitracted in SA, he isnt going to sign with you unless he gets his wage demands, if you arent going to ffer then release him so we can get a new club before englands first game"

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duffer First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chelsea fan. Posts: 7,905	Nothing on Sky sports news or the BBC about this. Hoping (in Coles case) it's BS.

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Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,715	Ballack will probably end up at Milan to add a bit of youth to their ageing squad.

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Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 21,014	Ballack could quite conceivably end up back home.

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MrMarcello No Lifer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 31,943	How can Chelsea release players whose contracts have expired? Makes little sense to me. It's like saying United sold Tevez. I see Ballack returning to Germany.

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Devil may care First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,328	Wouldn't be surprised if Harry fancied Ballack to add experience for their CL campaign. I guess Cole will end up here or at Arsenal unless City offer him big wages.

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mariachi-19 First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I may be the devil, but i'm not a monster Posts: 12,598	How hard would it have been for Chelsea to give both a contract during the season and selling them for a pretty penny at seasons end. There's a good 15 mil worth of players there.