City target Dos Santos

GlastonSpur · 27th May 2008, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

I don't think you are even close to signing Veloso or Dos Santos.

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

GAngel · 27th May 2008, 14:35

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

He's come out and stated in many spanish interviews that the only way he's leaving barca is if they want to sell him.

Raven_Blade · 27th May 2008, 14:43

He looks like a little Ronaldinho. I would prefer if he stayed at Barcelona rather than joining our rivals in the Premier League.

GlastonSpur · 27th May 2008, 14:47

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Originally Posted by GAngel

He's come out and stated in many spanish interviews that the only way he's leaving barca is if they want to sell him.

He's also said he'll leave if they insist on trying to loan him out:

Giovani Dos Santos has told Barcelona that if he leaves the club then it will be on a permanent basis, after rumours circulated that they have suggested a loan deal.

The Mexican youngster has refused to even discuss the possibility of spending a year gaining experience elsewhere and insisted that if the Blaugrana want him out, then it will be for good.

Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have all been linked with the services of Dos Santos, with his agent doing his best to persuade Barca that the high level of interest should mean more money for his client.

If the Catalan outfit refuse to budge and insist that they want the player to play regularly at another club and then return to Camp Nou, Dos Santos will seek a permanent move.

"If I leave, it will be forever," Dos Santos told reporters. "I am someone who believes that if you close a chapter at one place then you cannot go back.

"All I want to do is succeed, whether that be at Barca or at another club."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...588053,00.html

But all in all I agree: the most likely outcome is that he'll stay at Barca.

REd FUn DevIl · 27th May 2008, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

We should grab him before they do...He would be excellent cover for Nani and Ronaldo long term...

He is not that good. Common he doesnt even play too often and that says it all.

I think we are pretty fine with our wingers and i wouldn't bench Park to put this kid.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 15:21

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Originally Posted by REd FUn DevIl

He is not that good. Common he doesnt even play too often and that says it all..

Actually it doesn't. This guy played with our Anderson in under 21 level and was infact a bit better. So he is actually good. Talent wise.

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Originally Posted by REd FUn DevIl

I think we are pretty fine with our wingers and i wouldn't bench Park to put this kid.

Who mentioned him playing ahead of Park? We need 4 wingers for a season. & Giggs, sir, is no longer a winger. We shouldn't go into a season a winger down. This kid is 19, with bags of potential and wont complain with rotation. That's a perfect fit for me. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Park manning our wings against sides like Stoke city

FranklyVulgar · 27th May 2008, 16:03

Dos Santos is undoubtabley a hugely tallented kid. He hasn't made the impact at Barca he or the club were expecting and didn't notch his first goal until the last game of the season in which he scored a marvelous hattrick.

Looking at Barca this season they underperformed and to judge a kid on that is a bit harsh. People are raving about Bojan but thats because he is a striker and scored goals and is still so very young but tallent wise i wouldn't say he is better than Dos Santos.

I wouldn't say Bojan was at the same level yet as say Pato, i think Pato will be the outstanding striker.

Saying that Bojan is 17 so he can do so much.

Raven_Blade · 27th May 2008, 16:54

After watching a video of him ive just realised that he is left footed. How silly of me to miss that fact. Talented left footed attacking players are in demand so we should keep an eye on him. Imagine a future with Ronaldo, Nani, Park and Dos Santos on the wings. It could be something special.

GlastonSpur · 27th May 2008, 21:01

SSN are now reporting that Spurs are close to signing dos Santos !!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Don16 · 27th May 2008, 21:03

Spurs have him

ALX8725 · 27th May 2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

SSN are now reporting that Spurs are close to signing dos Santos !!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

this will be interesting

Raven_Blade · 27th May 2008, 21:10

Oh no. Not to Spurs. They really want that top 4 spot next season. Talented young players like Giovani Dos Santos will help.

Sarni · 27th May 2008, 21:56

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

I agree with you about Veloso, but I'm not so sure about dos Santos.

From various reports it seems that Spurs officials have been talking to Barca about someone, but Gus Poyet has publicly said Spurs are not interested in Eto'o and it's not likely to be Ronaldhino (neither of those players would be likely to sign for Spurs in any case), so dos Santos could be the most plausible target.

And dos Santos could well be interested. He'd get to play in the Prem, work with a well-respected Spanish-speaking manager and have a lot more chances to play regularly than he would at Barca. Not a bad prospect for such a young player why apparently has had a difficult time at Barca and now faces the uncertainties surrounding a new incoming manager.

On the other hand, dos Santos could go to Chelsea, especially if Rijkaard becomes the manager there. We shall see.

Yaya Toure perhaps?

GlastonSpur · 27th May 2008, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Sarni

Yaya Toure perhaps?

Not sure he'd fancy joining the local rival of his brother's team.

But in any case we're holding out for Veloso

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 22:19

Dos santos will be a fantastic signing for Spurs.

Sam#1 · 27th May 2008, 22:21

Good news for Spurs, I really look forward to seeing him in action next season.

Btw, anyone reckon they can challange Liverpool for 4th next season?

Scholesy · 27th May 2008, 22:27

Hell be a flop, Bojan is miles better.

sonymobby · 27th May 2008, 22:39

So, is it official?

devilish · 27th May 2008, 23:03

Dos Santos is a much better player then Park

Actually Park is the weakest winger we have.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 23:10

Dos Santos is not yet better than Park. That is pretty clear Devlish. He has some distance to go. All he is far more talented

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Scholesy

Hell be a flop .

Highly unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Scholesy

Bojan is miles better.

For now only.

Decotron · 27th May 2008, 23:16

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Originally Posted by devilish

Dos Santos is a much better player then Park

Actually Park is the weakest winger we have.

I agree with your 1st point but saying park is our weakest player is harsh on a player who played so well in the semi finals. Like to think we havent got any weak players just squad players capable of playing between 10-15 games and being happy with that. it breeds a great team spirit when theres no one just in it for themselves and complaining like bitches (see anelka)

devilish · 27th May 2008, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Decotron

I agree with your 1st point but saying park is our weakest player is harsh on a player who played so well in the semi finals. Like to think we havent got any weak players just squad players capable of playing between 10-15 games and being happy with that. it breeds a great team spirit when theres no one just in it for themselves and complaining like bitches (see anelka)

He is nowhere near Ronaldo
He is nowhere near Nani (who is yet raw but he is still better then him)
He is nowhere near Giggs.

Im not saying that Park isnt useful (altough he is frustrating at times since he is physically weak) but he is the weakest of our wingers.

devilish · 27th May 2008, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Dos Santos is not yet better than Park. That is pretty clear Devlish. He has some distance to go. All he is far more talented

Thats your opinion. Dos Santos has more skill and he is much more dangerous. Park on the other hand has more hardworking and a bit more experienced.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 23:44

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Originally Posted by devilish

Thats your opinion.

No it isn't. It's a statement of fact. Park is currently the better player. He is more effective and more mature. In the future though Dos santos will obviously surpass him. But to claim he is better now is wrong.

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Originally Posted by devilish

Dos Santos has more skill and he is much more dangerous.

Rather what he has is more natural talent. Not skill. He is still very raw. Park on form brings more to the table than him. He has better decision making, crosses and links play better. Plus is superior defensively. This season people didnt see the best of Park after his return from that long term injury. Even thoguh he perofmed admirably agint Barcelona and the like. But pre injury and when on form, Do santos as he is now isn't close to Park at all.

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Originally Posted by devilish

He has Park on the other hand has more hardworking and a bit more experienced

He is far more experienced.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th May 2008, 23:46

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Originally Posted by devilish

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He is nowhere near Giggs.

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Park right now is a far better winger than a 34 year old Giggs. Because Giggs really isn't a winger any more. We are just forcing things when we play him wide.

devilish · 28th May 2008, 06:47

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

No it isn't. It's a statement of fact. Park is currently the better player. He is more effective and more mature. In the future though Dos santos will obviously surpass him. But to claim he is better now is wrong.

Your opinion is always a statement of fact

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Rather what he has is more natural talent. Not skill. He is still very raw. Park on form brings more to the table than him. He has better decision making, crosses and links play better. Plus is superior defensively. This season people didnt see the best of Park after his return from that long term injury. Even thoguh he perofmed admirably agint Barcelona and the like. But pre injury and when on form, Do santos as he is now isn't close to Park at all.

He is still raw but if I had to choose between bringing him AND bringing Park I would choose Dos Santos. The boy has the basics to become a better player then Park had ever been.

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He is far more experienced.

On that you're right

devilish · 28th May 2008, 06:47

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Park right now is a far better winger than a 34 year old Giggs. Because Giggs really isn't a winger any more. We are just forcing things when we play him wide.

Giggs had been leading the flank for decades, ffs give him another few months before writing him off.

27th May 2008, 14:43	#43 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Berba Time...? Posts: 15,948	He looks like a little Ronaldinho. I would prefer if he stayed at Barcelona rather than joining our rivals in the Premier League.

27th May 2008, 16:03	#47 (permalink)
FranklyVulgar Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In amoungst the pigs raising hell Posts: 1,856	Dos Santos is undoubtabley a hugely tallented kid. He hasn't made the impact at Barca he or the club were expecting and didn't notch his first goal until the last game of the season in which he scored a marvelous hattrick. Looking at Barca this season they underperformed and to judge a kid on that is a bit harsh. People are raving about Bojan but thats because he is a striker and scored goals and is still so very young but tallent wise i wouldn't say he is better than Dos Santos. I wouldn't say Bojan was at the same level yet as say Pato, i think Pato will be the outstanding striker. Saying that Bojan is 17 so he can do so much.

27th May 2008, 16:54	#48 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Berba Time...? Posts: 15,948	After watching a video of him ive just realised that he is left footed. How silly of me to miss that fact. Talented left footed attacking players are in demand so we should keep an eye on him. Imagine a future with Ronaldo, Nani, Park and Dos Santos on the wings. It could be something special.

27th May 2008, 21:01	#49 (permalink)
GlastonSpur Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,413	SSN are now reporting that Spurs are close to signing dos Santos !!! I'll keep my fingers crossed.

27th May 2008, 21:03	#50 (permalink)
Don16 Annoying cnut Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The big goalies coming up! Posts: 3,237	Spurs have him

27th May 2008, 21:10	#52 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Berba Time...? Posts: 15,948	Oh no. Not to Spurs. They really want that top 4 spot next season. Talented young players like Giovani Dos Santos will help.

27th May 2008, 22:19	#55 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 19,268	Dos santos will be a fantastic signing for Spurs.

27th May 2008, 22:21	#56 (permalink)
Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ‘’Nobody panics when things go according to plan….even if the plan is horrifying! If I tell the press that tomorrow…a truckload of soldiers will get blown up, nobody panics. But when I say one little old mayor will die….everyone loses their minds!!’’ Posts: 12,860	Good news for Spurs, I really look forward to seeing him in action next season. Btw, anyone reckon they can challange Liverpool for 4th next season?

27th May 2008, 22:27	#57 (permalink)
Scholesy biggest idiotic gay in the village Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lets all laugh at Terry Posts: 3,601	Hell be a flop, Bojan is miles better.

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sonymobby spoilt whiner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,726	So, is it official?

27th May 2008, 23:03	#59 (permalink)
devilish Nationality: Italian-English, Maltese Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 17,824	Dos Santos is a much better player then Park Actually Park is the weakest winger we have.

27th May 2008, 23:10	#60 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 19,268	Dos Santos is not yet better than Park. That is pretty clear Devlish. He has some distance to go. All he is far more talented