David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)

untitled_6899 · 22nd September 2010, 23:58

The BBC's Phil Minshull also praised him before tonights game.

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I was at Atletico Madrid's Vicente Calderon on Sunday night to witness Barcelona show their class with an outstanding 2-1 win over their hosts.

On the way home, while digesting the fact that Valencia are now the only team with a 100% record in La Liga, I was also musing on the fact that the game showed both sides of Spanish football.

Barcelona could easily have won 5-1 but second-half heroics from the home side's increasingly assured keeper David De Gea, with two outstanding saves from Lionel Messi and another from David Villa, kept the scoreline respectable.

Remember this guy doesn't turn 20 until November and was just one year old when Cesar Sanchez made his Primera debut.

If my memory serves me well, De Gea seems to have even better skills in the air than Iker Casillas at this age, when the latter broke into the Real team during the 1999-2000 season, and as good positional ability as the man who is now the Spanish number one and arguably still the world's leading goalkeeper. Nor was De Gea at fault for either of the Barca goals.

I'm of the opinion that he's currently the best young goalkeeper in Europe at the moment and, even on last season's exploits, he looks like a leading candidate for the Bravo Award that goes to the top under-21 player in European football.

Casillas himself got this honour - awarded by the Italian magazine Guerin Sportivo - in 2000 and was the last goalkeeper to do so.

I have been impressed with him with what I have seen so far. He has the same quality I saw in Casillas when I first saw him play United in 2000.

He also has a calmness about his game, in a very similar manner to Edwin van der Sar. I think he will go on to become a fantastic goalkeeper.

Decotron · 23rd September 2010, 00:25

Made a cracking save tonight against valencia.

Sir Matt · 23rd September 2010, 01:44

The Mirror are saying that Fergie went to the match to watch him along with Valencia.

Devilton · 23rd September 2010, 10:09

Watched that game...this kid looks the real deal.

For someone that young, he looks incredibly composed between the sticks. Could very well be looking at the future Spain #1.

Ish84045 · 23rd September 2010, 10:12

Bright bright future ahead.

I've watched him a few times and for a 19 year old, his composure is unbelievable.

The commentator in the Barca game likened him to a young VdS.

Longsden_7 · 23rd September 2010, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Sir Matt

The Mirror are saying that Fergie went to the match to watch him along with Valencia.

Wouldn't surprise me, two birds and one stone. One of a handful of keepers that could actually take over VDS.

Cina · 23rd September 2010, 10:34

I'd take the kid over Adler, Lloris and Akinfeev any day of the week. He's going to be a special goalkeeper.

radd · 23rd September 2010, 11:19

Only seen him a couple times (Europa SF and Final) but he certainly doesn't play like a 19-yr old keeper, that's for sure. Good head on him. As none of the other prospects impress me that much, I'm really hoping we sign him, esp. with Kuszczak being a wantaway.

Sky1981 · 23rd September 2010, 11:42

20M Buyout clause? Just hit it and let him decide where he wants to play.

it's worth the money, thinking the taibi, carrol, barthez all causes us more than financially, denting our title run in the process.

Good no cheap, cheap no good.

mufcwarm92 · 23rd September 2010, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Sky1981

20M Buyout clause? Just hit it and let him decide where he wants to play.

it's worth the money, thinking the taibi, carrol, barthez all causes us more than financially, denting our title run in the process.

Good no cheap, cheap no good.

Barthez was one of the world's top keepers when we signed him. And Taibi was a very promising young keeper. It's a very difficult position to pin down an find a top keeper.

Cina · 23rd September 2010, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Sky1981

20M Buyout clause? Just hit it and let him decide where he wants to play.

it's worth the money, thinking the taibi, carrol, barthez all causes us more than financially, denting our title run in the process.

Good no cheap, cheap no good.

Well 20m is a good bit of cash, seeing as we're probably going to have to get a Scholes replacement next Summer, maybe even a Giggs replacement!

dev1l · 23rd September 2010, 12:37

Physically he s very similar to vds

radd · 23rd September 2010, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Sky1981

20M Buyout clause? Just hit it and let him decide where he wants to play.

it's worth the money, thinking the taibi, carrol, barthez all causes us more than financially, denting our title run in the process.

Good no cheap, cheap no good.

Sorry if it's been posted before, but what is the source for the 20m figure?

dev1l · 23rd September 2010, 12:50

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Originally Posted by radd

Sorry if it's been posted before, but what is the source for the 20m figure?

some journos are saying its 12 and not 20m

Manchester United Boss Sir Alex Ferguson Scouts Atletico Madrid Keeper David De Gea - Report - Goal.com

radd · 23rd September 2010, 12:54

Cheers dev1l.

No mention of an actual 20m buyout vlause in that report though. Just speculation that 12m might suffice.

Mitch Conor · 23rd September 2010, 13:59

Eric Steele, goalkeeping coach, was the person who joined Fergie at the game last night.

Ferguson, entusiasmado con De Gea - liga bbva atlético de madrid - AS.com

Elliott · 23rd September 2010, 13:59

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Originally Posted by mufcwarm92

Barthez was one of the world's top keepers when we signed him. And Taibi was a very promising young keeper. It's a very difficult position to pin down an find a top keeper.

Almost 30 when he signed for us.

radd · 23rd September 2010, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Mitch Conor

Eric Steele, goalkeeping coach, was the person who joined Fergie at the game last night.

Ferguson, entusiasmado con De Gea - liga bbva atlético de madrid - AS.com

Nice.

Devilton · 23rd September 2010, 14:28

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Originally Posted by cina

I'd take the kid over Adler, Lloris and Akinfeev any day of the week. He's going to be a special goalkeeper.

Definitely. For me Akinfeev and Adler don't even factor into the discussion. I've only watched Akinfeev during the champions league and with Russia and he strikes me as pretty ordinary. He's like PIG, except Russian. Adler is a little better, but if we're going German why not get the best german, and that's Nuear (sp?).

Lloris has looked very good, but his price tag and the fact De Gea seems taller and will probably become more dominant as he grows into his frame makes me think if we're going to spend silly money on a keeper (15-20 million), it should be on him.

KM · 23rd September 2010, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Mitch Conor

Eric Steele, goalkeeping coach, was the person who joined Fergie at the game last night.

Ferguson, entusiasmado con De Gea - liga bbva atlético de madrid - AS.com

Excellent spot.

Pretty much confirms that he was scouting David De Gea also.

Untied · 23rd September 2010, 15:30

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Originally Posted by KM

Excellent spot.

Pretty much confirms that he was scouting David De Gea also.

Or César

Jiggs'Hamstring · 23rd September 2010, 15:31

Well I watched the Valencia game earlier and I am now a fully paid up member of the fan club. Hope Fergie is too

Ekeke · 23rd September 2010, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Untied

Or César

Would be an interesting tactic having 2x 39 year old keeper. Play half a season each and keep each other fresh.

dev1l · 23rd September 2010, 15:41

Fergie yesterday....any ideas what was the person on the other end of the phone telling him ?

SecondFig · 23rd September 2010, 15:56

Well here's a somewhat OTT summary of every time De Gea touched the ball against Barcelona, I'd recommend watching with the sound off

SecondFig · 23rd September 2010, 15:57

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Originally Posted by dev1l

Fergie yesterday....any ideas what was the person on the other end of the phone telling him ?

By the looks of it, the guy next to him's thinking "why the fuck are you phoning me Alex? I'm sat next to you"

dev1l · 23rd September 2010, 16:05

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Originally Posted by SecondFig

By the looks of it, the guy next to him's thinking "why the fuck are you phoning me Alex? I'm sat next to you"

Pexbo · 24th September 2010, 02:28

Has anyone mentioned the fact that we are playing Valencia next week and Ferguson merely left a capable team in Phelan's capable hands and went to taken otes on them? Seriously, Ferguson doesn't miss First Team matches to look at some young goalkeeper, huge potential or not.

Escobar · 24th September 2010, 02:47

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Originally Posted by Pexbo

Has anyone mentioned the fact that we are playing Valencia next week and Ferguson merely left a capable team in Phelan's capable hands and went to taken otes on them? Seriously, Ferguson doesn't miss First Team matches to look at some young goalkeeper, huge potential or not.

Guess it was for both reasons, hence why he took his GK coach with him. However, just the fact that he went to another game doesnt make much sense for me. We have scouts, there is TV to watch the game at home. No need to miss a United game. Unless he needed to be there in person to talk to De Gea or whoever.

Maroon Lucifer · 24th September 2010, 02:48

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Originally Posted by Pexbo

Has anyone mentioned the fact that we are playing Valencia next week and Ferguson merely left a capable team in Phelan's capable hands and went to taken otes on them? Seriously, Ferguson doesn't miss First Team matches to look at some young goalkeeper, huge potential or not.

I think people are getting excited because Fergie brought Eric Steele, who is the clubs goalkeeping coach. Why bring a goalkeeping coach unless you are having an affair with him, huh?

Maroon Lucifer · 24th September 2010, 02:49

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Originally Posted by Escobar

Guess it was for both reasons, hence why he took his GK coach with him. However, just the fact that he went to another game doesnt make much sense for me. We have scouts, there is TV to watch the game at home. No need to miss a United game. Unless he needed to be there in person to talk to Ronaldo or whoever.

corrected it for you

Escobar · 24th September 2010, 02:54

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Originally Posted by Maroon Lucifer

corrected it for you

Not sure if this Ronaldo guy is suited to the PL to be honest

Makki · 24th September 2010, 06:22

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Originally Posted by SecondFig

By the looks of it, the guy next to him's thinking "why the fuck are you phoning me Alex? I'm sat next to you"

Post of the week

Sky1981 · 24th September 2010, 08:36

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Originally Posted by mufcwarm92

Barthez was one of the world's top keepers when we signed him. And Taibi was a very promising young keeper. It's a very difficult position to pin down an find a top keeper.

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Originally Posted by cina

Well 20m is a good bit of cash, seeing as we're probably going to have to get a Scholes replacement next Summer, maybe even a Giggs replacement!

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Originally Posted by radd

Sorry if it's been posted before, but what is the source for the 20m figure?

Well.. can't agree more with Barthez, IMO he's on the decline when we bought him, something to do with personal life with him and his wife IIRC. He's more of a socialite type who can't be arsed to keep his standard top notch after a while, but sure thing is it's a better bet.

@ Cina : We ended up with 12.5 Barthez, Taibi, Bosnich, Caroll, and still ended up looking like a joke at the GK dept. Not to mention the opportunity cost at having these keepers hampering our season. So I guess if we're going to buy again (Since we have no youth worthy of note in GK dept) let's jsut buy the expensive but sure thing (at least a better odds if you claim nothign is for certain)

@ Radd : I'm sure somebody mentioned a 20M buyout clause somewhere in page 2

We can afford flops in MF / FW / DF since if they're not working we can just plug someone else, but not in the GK dept while next year might be the last for VDS / PIG, we really have no alternatives if the "Try and error GK" we bought don't make it.

Sky1981 · 24th September 2010, 08:38

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Originally Posted by Escobar

Guess it was for both reasons, hence why he took his GK coach with him. However, just the fact that he went to another game doesnt make much sense for me. We have scouts, there is TV to watch the game at home. No need to miss a United game. Unless he needed to be there in person to talk to De Gea or whoever.

I think SAF doesn't need to scout him. There's no movement or off the ball thing to watch in a GK.

I think him being there with his GK coach sends out strong intend to De Gea that we want him. It's a subtle unsettling of a player.

Imagine if Perez comes to Emirates to watch the game, the media will have a Fabregas frenzy

Amir · 24th September 2010, 09:19

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Originally Posted by Sky1981

@ Cina : We ended up with 12.5 Barthez, Taibi, Bosnich, Caroll, and still ended up looking like a joke at the GK dept. Not to mention the opportunity cost at having these keepers hampering our season. So I guess if we're going to buy again (Since we have no youth worthy of note in GK dept) let's jsut buy the expensive but sure thing (at least a better odds if you claim nothign is for certain).

Barthez was expensive, Barthez was proven. Although you could say in his case, with his style of goalkeeping, there was always a chance of it going badly. Though he looked really good for a while for us. His first season was terrific and he was excellent for most of the third, until he had a breakdown in the heat of the title challenge of all timings.

De Gea looks very promising. Mind you, who if not the english would know something about young goalkeepers who look fantastic, until it goes a little... kaka.

Sky1981 · 24th September 2010, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Amir

Barthez was expensive, Barthez was proven. Although you could say in his case, with his style of goalkeeping, there was always a chance of it going badly. Though he looked really good for a while for us. His first season was terrific and he was excellent for most of the third, until he had a breakdown in the heat of the title challenge of all timings.

De Gea looks very promising. Mind you, who if not the english would know something about young goalkeepers who look fantastic, until it goes a little... kaka.

Well... true... they might look like schmikes and turns out like Taibi, but at least with the likes of De Gea the odds of him doing well is bigger than other wise.

Amir · 24th September 2010, 09:32

True. Admittedly, if I had to go for someone today, he'd probably be top of the list, simply because I'm totally unconvinced by some of the other names we've been linked with - Lloris, Neuer, Adler, not convinced by any of them. I'm very convinced regarding Akinfeev - that he's no where near good enough. Just a really good shot stopper. So since it's always a punt, De Gea would be a good one.

Looking at some of the big or rich clubs, Real has Casillas, Valdes isn't brilliant but he's a home grown player for Barca, Inter has Julio Cesar, Chelsea has Cech, City's got Hart. So we've got a chance if we go for it.

quethenoo · 24th September 2010, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Pexbo

Has anyone mentioned the fact that we are playing Valencia next week and Ferguson merely left a capable team in Phelan's capable hands and went to taken otes on them? Seriously, Ferguson doesn't miss First Team matches to look at some young goalkeeper, huge potential or not.

Well ostensibly thats the reason, but without getting all conspiracy theory its the first game he has missed for non personal reasons for 20 years or something like that, strikes me as odd for a champions league group game against a team that wouldnt have difficult to watch in several games lately. Add that to fact the goalkeeping coach is there and it dosent seem unreasonable to suggest there may be ulterior motives!

RedSky At Night · 24th September 2010, 09:54

Could it simply be that Ferguson thought it was a good opportunity to not only see Valencia and do some CL research but also have a chat with Athletico Madrid in person about the possibility of signing De Gea? Y'know, show some real class and actually talk to the club's owners man to man rather than unsettling the player and club by using a paper to do its dirty work for them.

Besides gives Ferguson some time off too

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23rd September 2010, 00:25	#82 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 20,030	Made a cracking save tonight against valencia.

23rd September 2010, 01:44	#83 (permalink)
Sir Matt First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LUHG Posts: 9,295	The Mirror are saying that Fergie went to the match to watch him along with Valencia.

23rd September 2010, 10:09	#84 (permalink)
Devilton First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 6,127	Watched that game...this kid looks the real deal. For someone that young, he looks incredibly composed between the sticks. Could very well be looking at the future Spain #1.

23rd September 2010, 10:12	#85 (permalink)
Ish84045 raisa84045 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: "WhatF*ckingWhat" Posts: 2,667	Bright bright future ahead. I've watched him a few times and for a 19 year old, his composure is unbelievable. The commentator in the Barca game likened him to a young VdS.

23rd September 2010, 10:34	#87 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,959	I'd take the kid over Adler, Lloris and Akinfeev any day of the week. He's going to be a special goalkeeper.

23rd September 2010, 11:19	#88 (permalink)
radd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 895	Only seen him a couple times (Europa SF and Final) but he certainly doesn't play like a 19-yr old keeper, that's for sure. Good head on him. As none of the other prospects impress me that much, I'm really hoping we sign him, esp. with Kuszczak being a wantaway.

23rd September 2010, 11:42	#89 (permalink)
Sky1981 Fending Off the Urge Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Liverpool Football Club : One of the greatest football club... in the PAST. Posts: 7,683	20M Buyout clause? Just hit it and let him decide where he wants to play. it's worth the money, thinking the taibi, carrol, barthez all causes us more than financially, denting our title run in the process. Good no cheap, cheap no good.

23rd September 2010, 12:37	#92 (permalink)
dev1l Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,509	Physically he s very similar to vds

23rd September 2010, 12:54	#95 (permalink)
radd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 895	Cheers dev1l. No mention of an actual 20m buyout vlause in that report though. Just speculation that 12m might suffice.

23rd September 2010, 13:59	#96 (permalink)
Mitch Conor Holy CRAP BALLS!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,096	Eric Steele, goalkeeping coach, was the person who joined Fergie at the game last night. Ferguson, entusiasmado con De Gea - liga bbva atlético de madrid - AS.com

23rd September 2010, 15:31	#102 (permalink)
Jiggs'Hamstring Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: right up next to Sky Valley Posts: 1,730	Well I watched the Valencia game earlier and I am now a fully paid up member of the fan club. Hope Fergie is too

23rd September 2010, 15:41	#104 (permalink)
dev1l Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,509	Fergie yesterday....any ideas what was the person on the other end of the phone telling him ?

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SecondFig First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober Posts: 5,720	Well here's a somewhat OTT summary of every time De Gea touched the ball against Barcelona, I'd recommend watching with the sound off

24th September 2010, 02:28	#108 (permalink)
Pexbo He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: T'Internet Posts: 8,286	Has anyone mentioned the fact that we are playing Valencia next week and Ferguson merely left a capable team in Phelan's capable hands and went to taken otes on them? Seriously, Ferguson doesn't miss First Team matches to look at some young goalkeeper, huge potential or not.

24th September 2010, 09:32	#118 (permalink)
Amir First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rehovot, Israel Posts: 16,097	True. Admittedly, if I had to go for someone today, he'd probably be top of the list, simply because I'm totally unconvinced by some of the other names we've been linked with - Lloris, Neuer, Adler, not convinced by any of them. I'm very convinced regarding Akinfeev - that he's no where near good enough. Just a really good shot stopper. So since it's always a punt, De Gea would be a good one. Looking at some of the big or rich clubs, Real has Casillas, Valdes isn't brilliant but he's a home grown player for Barca, Inter has Julio Cesar, Chelsea has Cech, City's got Hart. So we've got a chance if we go for it.

24th September 2010, 09:54	#120 (permalink)
RedSky At Night RTA waiting to happen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nottingham Forest (in Soccer Manager League) Posts: 16,586	Could it simply be that Ferguson thought it was a good opportunity to not only see Valencia and do some CL research but also have a chat with Athletico Madrid in person about the possibility of signing De Gea? Y'know, show some real class and actually talk to the club's owners man to man rather than unsettling the player and club by using a paper to do its dirty work for them. Besides gives Ferguson some time off too