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Old 29th June 2008, 22:13   #1 (permalink)
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Daniel Guiza

Not saying we should buy him,will do well for a club like spurs and maybe for arsenal,and i do think utd can do with a player like him,but not sure about him,but definitely a good player nevertheless...
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Old 29th June 2008, 22:14   #2 (permalink)
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Old 29th June 2008, 22:15   #3 (permalink)
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its Daniel, not David.
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Old 29th June 2008, 22:23   #4 (permalink)
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Old 29th June 2008, 22:49   #5 (permalink)
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He is supposed to be following Aragones to Turkey. It is widely expected.
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Old 30th June 2008, 00:50   #6 (permalink)
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Hes brilliant. Would be a top signing for any club.
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Old 30th June 2008, 00:55   #7 (permalink)
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He's a good finisher and went the whole of last season under the radar in Spain. The talk was all about Fabiano all year, but he sat on his laurels for the last few months talking about his contract and future instead of bothering to score goals, and Guiza took over him. I suggested him a few months ago as a possible backup to Rooney and Tevez and I haven't changed my mind. I think he'd do fine, but wouldn't blow us away. He'd just do his job and score goals.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:00   #8 (permalink)
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Good player no doubt, would want better here but he could probably still do the job well enough
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:04   #9 (permalink)
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He has certainly gained some attention at the tournament. Some top clubs may be after him.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:16   #10 (permalink)
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He's a good finisher and went the whole of last season under the radar in Spain. The talk was all about Fabiano all year, but he sat on his laurels for the last few months talking about his contract and future instead of bothering to score goals, and Guiza took over him. I suggested him a few months ago as a possible backup to Rooney and Tevez and I haven't changed my mind. I think he'd do fine, but wouldn't blow us away. He'd just do his job and score goals.
I would take him over Fabiano any day 10 times over. He has the pace and presence to do well and his finishing ability and movement are great but it doesn't seem like many top teams are interested in him. Fabiano on the other hand has finishing ability and movement and that's it, I would have been very disappointed if we bought him.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:29   #11 (permalink)
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Top scorer in Spain without taking penalties.
Very good player eh.

Matured like a fine wine.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:30   #12 (permalink)
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I love his passion as seen for playing with Spain.

You can tell he'd absolutely relish a move to a bigger club, and would probably bang them in too.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:30   #13 (permalink)
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He is supposed to be following Aragones to Turkey. It is widely expected.
Argh, I saw that and certainly hope he doesn't.

Valencia can pawn off Villa and sign him as a replacement.
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Old 30th June 2008, 01:45   #14 (permalink)
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I would take him over Fabiano any day 10 times over. He has the pace and presence to do well and his finishing ability and movement are great but it doesn't seem like many top teams are interested in him. Fabiano on the other hand has finishing ability and movement and that's it, I would have been very disappointed if we bought him.
Well I think the Fabiano situation is resolved and last I heard he is staying at Sevilla. I'd have taken him, till the last few months of the season where he showed his true colours and got distracted and lost his touch on the pitch. I'd certainly take Guiza of the two now, due to that.
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I would take him over Fabiano any day 10 times over. He has the pace and presence to do well and his finishing ability and movement are great but it doesn't seem like many top teams are interested in him. Fabiano on the other hand has finishing ability and movement and that's it, I would have been very disappointed if we bought him.
That strikes me as a strange conclusion. Fabiano looks like a class act (though not quite the real deal) while Guiza looks like a PL failure writ large
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He had done very well both with Spain and his own club. I wouldn't mind if he signs with us as Saha's successor.
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Old 30th June 2008, 05:26   #17 (permalink)
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That strikes me as a strange conclusion. Fabiano looks like a class act (though not quite the real deal) while Guiza looks like a PL failure writ large
excellent insight
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Old 30th June 2008, 06:49   #18 (permalink)
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Good player but not good enough for us.
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Old 30th June 2008, 07:10   #19 (permalink)
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Hes brilliant. Would be a top signing for any club.
Seconded. He would be decent cover/competition for Carlos and Wayne
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Seconded. He would be decent cover/competition for Carlos and Wayne
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Old 30th June 2008, 10:17   #21 (permalink)
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That strikes me as a strange conclusion. Fabiano looks like a class act (though not quite the real deal) while Guiza looks like a PL failure writ large
A class act in what sort of way? He can't involve himself in the build up play, isn't particularly strong or fast and has a very poor attitude. Add that to the fact he has taken two years to settle at every club in Europe and I come to the conclusion he is a terrible signing. He's like a poor man's Huntelaar.

Guiza has pace, strength, decent finishing ability and excellent work-rate. A poor man's Torres.
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Old 30th June 2008, 11:53   #22 (permalink)
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Good player but not good enough for us.
Why not?
He outscored all the world class players last season in Spain. The ones you probably want us to sign. He's class. No denying it. I'd take him anyday of the week.
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Why not?
He outscored all the world class players last season in Spain. The ones you probably want us to sign. He's class. No denying it. I'd take him anyday of the week.
Eto'o was injured, Van Nistelrooy was injured, Villa was injured and Diego Milito was fighting relegation. They are all better strikers.

One good season doesn't make a good player.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:35   #24 (permalink)
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None of those strikers have scored more than 27 goals in the league before without scoring any penalties. 27 goals from open play is quite something. He impressed during the euros aswell. Hes clearly not a one season wonder.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:35   #25 (permalink)
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Eto'o was injured, Van Nistelrooy was injured, Villa was injured and Diego Milito was fighting relegation. They are all better strikers.

One good season doesn't make a good player.
He still scored 27 goals that would have most likely given him the title regardless of their injury record. Still, I don't think of him as another big thing, he's already about 28 as far as a I recall and appears to be a late bloomer.

At the age of 23 he was still playing his trade in Barcelona's B team, where he appeared 15 times scoring 5 goals, that being his best experience up to that age. Then he kind of found himself at Murcia and Getafe, yet his goalscoring records there weren't very impressive either.

27 goals without taking penalties is still an impressive record, especially at team like Mallorca.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:45   #26 (permalink)
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He's a good finisher and went the whole of last season under the radar in Spain. The talk was all about Fabiano all year, but he sat on his laurels for the last few months talking about his contract and future instead of bothering to score goals, and Guiza took over him. I suggested him a few months ago as a possible backup to Rooney and Tevez and I haven't changed my mind. I think he'd do fine, but wouldn't blow us away. He'd just do his job and score goals.
Which way do you want it? You've been going on about David Villa for ages and now it's Guiza. Is there any forward you don't want?
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Why not?
He outscored all the world class players last season in Spain. The ones you probably want us to sign.
So did Beattie (well, most of them anyway) back in 02-03?
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So did Beattie (well, most of them anyway) back in 02-03?
Guiza is a class act. I watched alot of la liga last year and caught alot of Mallorca's games.
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None of those strikers have scored more than 27 goals in the league before without scoring any penalties. 27 goals from open play is quite something. He impressed during the euros aswell. Hes clearly not a one season wonder.
Oh so has he been performing this well for over a season then? I've seen plenty of Guiza and he is nothing out of the ordinary, just like Santa Cruz isn't. The team just suits him and plays to his strengths. You can be very sure he won't go to a major European team, mainly because he is 28 and won't want to be a back up player.
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Which way do you want it? You've been going on about David Villa for ages and now it's Guiza. Is there any forward you don't want?
You should probabably read the Berbatov and Huntelaar threads.

And to think, some people have me down as not being open to signing anyone but David Villa.

I'd take one of several forward players, depending on whether SAF wants them to be first choice or backup. Guiza is a good shout as a backup.
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