Demba Ba

Bryan_Munich · 12th January 2012, 12:19

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Originally Posted by Enigma_87

Since when Ba would be a key player for us having in mind Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Berbatov?

I don't think Fergie would sign established African players full stop.

africanspur · 12th January 2012, 12:23

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Originally Posted by Sewelly The Geordie

It's inevitable that he'll get plucked soon. We're not allowed nice things.

Don't worry. Soon enough, our 20 clubs will be owned by oil/steel rich billionaires, using football as a plaything, with virtual fans in the stadium and playing Barcelona and AC Milan every week.

ciderman9000000 · 13th January 2012, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Munich

I don't think Fergie would sign established African players full stop.

Why though?

If a player is good enough to play for United then I cannot envision him having to miss a month of football once every two years posing much of an obstacle to his signing for United. The African continent regularly produces excellent talents, I see no reason why Sir Alex would put any sort of blockade on such a resource of great potential due to such counter-productive policies.

Do you think SAF would have turned down the signing of Didier Drogba five years ago on account of him being African? Of course he wouldn't. Have Chelsea suffered over the years from the presence of a world class African player in their squad? Of course they haven't.

I'm not suggesting that the ACN doesn't enter into managers' thoughts when weighing up the potential signing of such a player, but to suggest that SAF will never sign an African player is absolutely ridiculous; I don't know what thought process has caused you to arrive at this bonkers theory, but it certainly wasn't one grounded with any notion of logic or evidence.

africanspur · 15th January 2012, 12:53

Didn't Ferguson try to sign Mikel and Essien?

Hectic · 15th January 2012, 12:58

And on both accounts he was reminded at the last minute that they were African players, and respectfully withdrew the bid.

golden_blunder · 15th January 2012, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Hectic

And on both accounts he was reminded at the last minute that they were African players, and respectfully withdrew the bid.

I wish they'd reminded him about Djemba Djemba

Jippy · 16th January 2012, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Hectic

And on both accounts he was reminded at the last minute that they were African players, and respectfully withdrew the bid.

That's bollocks though isn't it? Chelsea outbid us for Essien and who knows with the weirdness around the Mikel transfer, but we got a decent payout, so not all bad.

mjs020294 · 16th January 2012, 01:48

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

I wish they'd reminded him about Djemba Djemba

ciderman9000000 · 16th January 2012, 05:56

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Originally Posted by Jippy

That's bollocks though isn't it? Chelsea outbid us for Essien and who knows with the weirdness around the Mikel transfer, but we got a decent payout, so not all bad.

Eh?

gza the genius · 16th January 2012, 06:19

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Originally Posted by Jippy

That's bollocks though isn't it? Chelsea outbid us for Essien and who knows with the weirdness around the Mikel transfer, but we got a decent payout, so not all bad.

I wouldn't be so sure, Hectic's account of events seems far more likely.

Varun_Utd · 16th January 2012, 06:25

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Originally Posted by gza the genius

I wouldn't be so sure, Hectic's account of events seems far more likely.

That SAF didnt know essien was an african footballer till the last moment? very unlikely to say the least. Chelsea outbid us or paid him much higher wages is my view of things.

Floyd · 16th January 2012, 08:04

Wooooosh overload.

Hectic · 16th January 2012, 08:33

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Originally Posted by Jippy

That's bollocks though isn't it? Chelsea outbid us for Essien and who knows with the weirdness around the Mikel transfer, but we got a decent payout, so not all bad.

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Originally Posted by Varun_Utd

That SAF didnt know essien was an african footballer till the last moment? very unlikely to say the least. Chelsea outbid us or paid him much higher wages is my view of things.

lysglimt · 16th January 2012, 08:39

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

I wish they'd reminded him about Djemba Djemba

One might add Manucho to that list

Varun_Utd · 16th January 2012, 09:22

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Originally Posted by Floyd

Wooooosh overload.

Just read the earlier posts. Not at my smartest when am just up in the morning.

ciderman9000000 · 16th January 2012, 12:13

That Chelsea ended up with Essien and Mikel is besides the point; SAF obviously wanted to sign each of them (he did sign Mikel), so Bryan's random theory about SAF never signing African players is obviously nonsense. SAF has signed DjembaX2, Diouf, Manucho, Fortune, Mikel, plus he put a bid in for Essien. Bryan_Munich's evidently just talking shit.

devilish · 21st February 2012, 10:07

Value!!!

Sullivan reveals Ba exit clause | Newcastle United, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports

West Ham co-owner David Sullivan believes Demba Ba is likely to exit Newcastle this summer, with a clause in his contract set to leave the Magpies short.

The Hammers sold the Senegalese striker to Newcastle last summer, with relegation out of the Premier League forcing their hand.
Ba has been a revelation on Tyneside, with his goals largely responsible for the Magpies' ongoing bid to secure a top-four finish.

His efforts have been welcomed by the St James' Park faithful, making him a firm fans' favourite, but his exploits have not gone unnoticed elsewhere.
Speculation regarding his future and an apparent release clause in his contract first surfaced ahead of the January transfer window, and is expected to return to the fore.

Get-out clause

Sullivan has now revealed that were a move to be pushed through, Newcastle would only pocket half of any fee involved.
The rest of the cash will go to Ba, meaning the Magpies could be left with just £3.5million were a rival club to match his £7m release fee.

"They keep denying it, but I think you'll see in the summer he will leave Newcastle or he'll get a monstrous rise to stay there," said Sullivan.
"I'm told he's got a £7m get-out clause and he gets half the money of that.
"If they get about £4m, half will go to him. So if they sell him for £7m, they'll only get about three because they paid his agent £2m to get him out of here."

golden_blunder · 21st February 2012, 10:17

I dont think its right that a chairman of another club openly talks about another clubs employee contract like that

Brophs · 21st February 2012, 10:19

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

I dont think its right that a chairman of another club openly talks about another clubs employee contract like that

Yeah, it's a bit sly alright. He's basically just touting Ba around, for whatever reason.

devilish · 21st February 2012, 10:20

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

I dont think its right that a chairman of another club openly talks about another clubs employee contract like that

I agree. However 7m for Bemba Ba would be the bargain of the year for any club.

RyanGoggs · 21st February 2012, 11:06

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Originally Posted by devilish

I agree. However 7m for Bemba Ba would be the bargain of the year for any club.

Unfortunately anyone who buys him will most likely be a rival who would greatly benefit from the signing...

KM · 21st February 2012, 11:16

I could see Spurs going for him, particularly as I don't think they would be able to afford Adebayor's wages.

Hectic · 21st February 2012, 11:31

I reckon he'll go to Arsenal.

ciderman9000000 · 21st February 2012, 11:32

I'd be very happy if United signed Ba, he's an excellent center forward.

Hectic · 21st February 2012, 11:34

Me too. Wouldn't know how we would line up with the amount of quality strikers, but I don't want any of the other big teams to get him either, he would be a great buy.

Nate Dogg · 21st February 2012, 11:35

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

I'd be very happy if United signed Ba, he's an excellent center forward.

Would be a good addition, especially if owen, macheda and possiby berba leave in the summer.

Red Pavan · 21st February 2012, 11:44

Would be perfect for Spurs, if Ade doesn't stay after the summer.

Epic · 21st February 2012, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Hectic

I reckon he'll go to Arsenal.

I'll reckon he'll retire due to injury in the summer.

Skywarden · 21st February 2012, 11:51

A bit cuntish to out the clause like that, I agree. Sounds like really sour grapes.

Anyhow, Harry should be all over Ba if/when he finds out.

Red Pavan · 21st February 2012, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Skywarden

A bit cuntish to out the clause like that, I agree. Sounds like really sour grapes.

Anyhow, Harry should be all over Ba if/when he finds out.

Not if he is at the Euros with England in the summer..

Elliott · 21st February 2012, 12:52

His dodgy knee + our luck with injuries = disaster.

devilish · 21st February 2012, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Elliott

His dodgy knee + our luck with injuries = disaster.

7m Elliot. The same price we've bought the Portuguese 'player'. Its a steal.

Smores · 21st February 2012, 13:39

The money could be better utilised elsewhere really. He may even prefer to choose the likes of Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea over us as he'd face considerably less competition there.

Twigginater · 21st February 2012, 15:04

No thankyou.

cw1984 · 21st February 2012, 16:15

Whilst we don't need I wouldn't be surprised if we got him. With Berbatov and Owen out of the door in the Summer that leaves us with 3 strikers. Everyone knows Fergie likes to have 4...

Tottenham would be a good fit. They're surely not going to keep Adebayor and Defoe isn't really suited to how they play.

Aboutreika18 · 21st February 2012, 16:25

Still question marks over his knee. After the fiasco with Hargreaves, I doubt we'd go anywhere near him.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 21st February 2012, 16:42

Dodgy knees

Sparky_Hughes · 21st February 2012, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Aboutreika18

Still question marks over his knee. After the fiasco with Hargreaves, I doubt we'd go anywhere near him.

For £7 million quid? We bought a player who lives in a box and eats grass for more, I wouldnt be supprised to see us take a punt.

Sean_RedDevil · 21st February 2012, 20:23

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Originally Posted by ciderman9000000

I'd be very happy if United signed Ba, he's an excellent center forward.

If Ba joins us then i can see he'll be a injury-prone player again.

Colin129 · 21st February 2012, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

If Ba joins us then i can see he'll be a injury-prone player again.

The new Saha?

A goal machine, when he's not croc. We already have one of those, he's called Michael Owen.

Surely the £7M release clause is a minimum fee? The bid must be at least £7M, doesn't mean they'd have to sell him for that though, does it?

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15th January 2012, 12:53	#124 (permalink)
africanspur Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,492	Didn't Ferguson try to sign Mikel and Essien?

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,846	And on both accounts he was reminded at the last minute that they were African players, and respectfully withdrew the bid.

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ciderman9000000 Off his rocker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester City Posts: 20,399	That Chelsea ended up with Essien and Mikel is besides the point; SAF obviously wanted to sign each of them (he did sign Mikel), so Bryan's random theory about SAF never signing African players is obviously nonsense. SAF has signed DjembaX2, Diouf, Manucho, Fortune, Mikel, plus he put a bid in for Essien. Bryan_Munich's evidently just talking shit.

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devilish Protomuppet Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 25,818	Value!!! Sullivan reveals Ba exit clause \| Newcastle United, Fixtures, Results, Transfers \| Sky Sports West Ham co-owner David Sullivan believes Demba Ba is likely to exit Newcastle this summer, with a clause in his contract set to leave the Magpies short. The Hammers sold the Senegalese striker to Newcastle last summer, with relegation out of the Premier League forcing their hand. Ba has been a revelation on Tyneside, with his goals largely responsible for the Magpies' ongoing bid to secure a top-four finish. His efforts have been welcomed by the St James' Park faithful, making him a firm fans' favourite, but his exploits have not gone unnoticed elsewhere. Speculation regarding his future and an apparent release clause in his contract first surfaced ahead of the January transfer window, and is expected to return to the fore. Get-out clause Sullivan has now revealed that were a move to be pushed through, Newcastle would only pocket half of any fee involved. The rest of the cash will go to Ba, meaning the Magpies could be left with just £3.5million were a rival club to match his £7m release fee. "They keep denying it, but I think you'll see in the summer he will leave Newcastle or he'll get a monstrous rise to stay there," said Sullivan. "I'm told he's got a £7m get-out clause and he gets half the money of that. "If they get about £4m, half will go to him. So if they sell him for £7m, they'll only get about three because they paid his agent £2m to get him out of here."

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golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: In the shadows fighting e-crime Posts: 63,901	I dont think its right that a chairman of another club openly talks about another clubs employee contract like that

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KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	I could see Spurs going for him, particularly as I don't think they would be able to afford Adebayor's wages.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,846	I reckon he'll go to Arsenal.

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ciderman9000000 Off his rocker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester City Posts: 20,399	I'd be very happy if United signed Ba, he's an excellent center forward.

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Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,846	Me too. Wouldn't know how we would line up with the amount of quality strikers, but I don't want any of the other big teams to get him either, he would be a great buy.

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Red Pavan shittest username ever manutddabest791 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK - Ronaldo's House. Posts: 11,009	Would be perfect for Spurs, if Ade doesn't stay after the summer.

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Skywarden Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lurking on the periphery of my vision Posts: 4,199	A bit cuntish to out the clause like that, I agree. Sounds like really sour grapes. Anyhow, Harry should be all over Ba if/when he finds out.

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Smores First Team Sub Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dark side of the moon Posts: 6,453	The money could be better utilised elsewhere really. He may even prefer to choose the likes of Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea over us as he'd face considerably less competition there.

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cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,022	Whilst we don't need I wouldn't be surprised if we got him. With Berbatov and Owen out of the door in the Summer that leaves us with 3 strikers. Everyone knows Fergie likes to have 4... Tottenham would be a good fit. They're surely not going to keep Adebayor and Defoe isn't really suited to how they play.

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Aboutreika18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: You contaminated my day,ROONEY is too blunt to be a striker. Posts: 3,045	Still question marks over his knee. After the fiasco with Hargreaves, I doubt we'd go anywhere near him.

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Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 39,443	Dodgy knees