Downing to Liverpool?

Drifter · 26th May 2011, 11:12

Aston Villa winger and player of the year Stewart Downing is refusing to commit to a new contract with the midlands club.

Caretaker boss Gary McAllister intimated that Villa would be opening talks with Downing over an improved and extended deal but Downing, who has two years remaining of his current contract, has indicated that will not be happening in the foreseeable future.

"I know the club are keen for me to extend my contract as I only have two years left on my deal," the former Middlesbrough player told the Northern Echo. "However, I am 26, and at a major crossroads in my career, so I won't be committing to a new deal at the moment."

Villa will hope Downing eventually changes his mind otherwise they could face the same scenario as now confronts them with Ashley Young.

He has only 12 months left of his current deal and is being linked with a move to Manchester United or Liverpool.

Downing is delighted to be playing regularly after an injury-hit first campaign following his £12million move from Boro in the summer of 2009.

But he also admits he wants to eventually play Champions League football.

He said: "I want to keep playing and enjoying my football. When I was injured that made me realise what it can be like to be out for such a long time.

"It hurt. The most important thing is to play football, but I do want to play in the Champions League at some point."

VoetbalWizard · 26th May 2011, 11:13

has bin dippers written all over him.

Robbie Boy · 26th May 2011, 11:13

Liverpool beckons.

Solius · 26th May 2011, 11:13

Average footballer.

Feeky_Magee · 26th May 2011, 11:15

Good footballer I think, will do a job for Liverpool. Could link up well with Carroll.

Robbie Boy · 26th May 2011, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Feeky_Magee

Good footballer I think, will do a job for Liverpool. Could link up well with Carroll.

Have to agree with that.

mufcwarm92 · 26th May 2011, 11:22

If he wants Champions League football he sure as hell won't be getting it at Liverpool, he won't even be playing in Europe if he goes there. However he's decent, nothing more, so that probably fits a club like Liverpool right now

Donkey's Ears · 26th May 2011, 11:24

He's ok. Will fit in well at Liverpool and help Carroll.

cj4_elmo · 26th May 2011, 11:26

At some point loosely translates into, pay me well enough and I don;t mind not playing CL football.

Badunk · 26th May 2011, 12:03

A bit too hit-and-miss for me. He gets regular football in a decent attack and still doesn't shine in more than a handful of games a season.

Number7 · 26th May 2011, 12:16

He's complete and utter shite

KingEric7 · 26th May 2011, 12:17

Typical Liverpool signing. He's found his level, for me. Don't know what business he has thinking he's good enough to play in the Champions League.

Devilton · 26th May 2011, 12:18

Average player who knew he was playing for his last big contract and so had the season of his life.

Liverpool and years of mediocrity beckons.

RedKaos · 26th May 2011, 12:18

Some caftards had him down to replace Giggs

evra · 26th May 2011, 12:21

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Originally Posted by Number7

He's complete and utter shite

If he had the pace of Young, Walcott or Lennon he would be playing CL football; he's a very good crosser of the ball.

cw1984 · 26th May 2011, 12:32

He's a decent player. Well suited to Liverpool.

Brwned · 26th May 2011, 12:48

Can't blame him, he's always had a reputation as a mediocre player at a midtable club so if he gets a chance to push on and play for a team aiming for CL football he'd have to take it.

I don't think he's so bad; passing, striking, crossing - he's fairly good at. His technique's far from laughable. Offers good balance too. He's just a bit creatively inept, uninspiring, lacking that bit of spark needed to push on. Also, he's deceptively quick.

Top · 26th May 2011, 12:54

I would love it if Liverpool got Downing instead of Ashley Young.

KM · 26th May 2011, 12:56

He's a decent player who has improved since joining Villa, would be a good signing for Liverpool. A better player than Adam Johnson who is rated quite highly on the caf. Comfortably Villa's best player this season.

Cutch · 26th May 2011, 12:57

Very underrated on here. Had a very good season

Mannheim Red · 26th May 2011, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Cutch

Very underrated on here. Had a very good season

And vastly overrated everywhere else. ''One swallow a summer does not make''

teague · 26th May 2011, 13:43

A Villa fan mate of mine reckons he has been much better than Young this season.

I don't think he has quite got the pace to be an effective winger at the very top level but he has a lot of quality about him.

Devil may care · 26th May 2011, 13:47

Obviously he is taking his best chance to get a move that may give him CL football, can't blame him really.

M'n'M · 26th May 2011, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Top

I would love it if Liverpool got Downing instead of Ashley Young.

Yet any Villa fans I know would rather sell us Young than Downing.

Decotron · 26th May 2011, 14:05

his record in terms of assists over the years pretty much confirms hes nowhere near "shite".

Rahul · 26th May 2011, 14:52

P.E footballer. Right off the Gareth Barry spice rack.

Stay well clear.

Inigo Montoya · 26th May 2011, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decotron

his record in terms of assists over the years pretty much confirms hes nowhere near "shite".

OK for the Prem but not a Utd player.Could see 'Arry buying him to link up with Bale

prateik · 26th May 2011, 15:02

Stewart fucking Downing wants CL football..

Number7 · 26th May 2011, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decotron

his record in terms of assists over the years pretty much confirms hes nowhere near "shite".

7 assists last season. 6 the season before. 7 the season before that. 5 in 07/08.

Those are not the stats of a man who should be holding out for Champions League football.

Mitch Conor · 26th May 2011, 15:11

If Nani was to stay at United and be first choice LW, Valencia first choice RW, I could actually see Downing as a decent purchase as a genuinely left footed backup option on the left. I think his overall play has improved greatly over the last couple of years. No good enough to be first choice at United imo, but would be a good back up to Nani on the left

apotheosis · 26th May 2011, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

OK for the Prem but not a Utd player.Could see 'Arry buying him to link up with Bale

Hopefully Bale signs for us and 'Arry signs Downing as a replacement!

Tbh, Downing is not as bad as many on here make out, he is pretty good all round but just not as flashy as Young. Quite versatile too, he is capable of playing centrally and on either flank.

Not fantastic admittedly, but nowhere near as shit as some posters are claiming.

Robbie Boy · 26th May 2011, 15:14

He isn't shite, nor is he particularly brilliant, he is very very average. Kind of like Barry, was at his level at Villa and if he moved up a level it would most likely be a level too far.

Although; he is a very direct player with a good cross, and if he were to move to Liverpool he could prove a good supplier of goals for Carroll.

KingEric7 · 26th May 2011, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by evra

If he had the pace of Young, Walcott or Lennon he would be playing CL football; he's a very good crosser of the ball.

Thing is, he is actually very fast when he wants to be. I didn't believe it until I saw him, right infront of my very eyes from the South, outpace Rafael (I think) down the right a couple of years back. It was weird.

Still don't rate him, though.

apotheosis · 26th May 2011, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number7

7 assists last season. 6 the season before. 7 the season before that. 5 in 07/08.

Those are not the stats of a man who should be holding out for Champions League football.

Stats don't really tell the whole story though do they? Bale hasn't had many more assists than that this season, but when you consider the misfiring strikers at Spurs, Bale's quality of service is not really fairly reflected due to the poor conversion rate of the strikers.

Till Bent came along the same could be said for Villa really, so while i am not defending Downing as such, but simply pointing out that stats are often subjective and should not really be used to draw concrete conclusions about a player's general effectiveness or overall contributions.

RDCR07 · 27th May 2011, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

has bin dippers written all over him.

I thought Arsenal might have more use for him.

Richter · 27th May 2011, 18:45

He is a bit limited but would improve Liverpool's squad. Kenny seem to want British players that know the English game.

Twigginater · 27th May 2011, 18:48

He's an adequate squad signing and would do well at Liverpool. Would probably get similar stats for them as Park does for us.

Cold_Boy · 27th May 2011, 20:05

I wish Liverpool sign him.

RedKaos · 27th May 2011, 20:09

I want Champions league football too. Why won't anyone sign me?

davisjw · 27th May 2011, 20:31

He's not special but wouldn't be a bad squad player.

I think a fair few on here are dismissing 'Pool quite stupidly. Based on King Kenny's reign thus far, they could see a few upsets depending on who they bring in...

26th May 2011, 11:12	#1 (permalink)
Drifter No Lifer Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,939	Downing to Liverpool? Aston Villa winger and player of the year Stewart Downing is refusing to commit to a new contract with the midlands club. Caretaker boss Gary McAllister intimated that Villa would be opening talks with Downing over an improved and extended deal but Downing, who has two years remaining of his current contract, has indicated that will not be happening in the foreseeable future. "I know the club are keen for me to extend my contract as I only have two years left on my deal," the former Middlesbrough player told the Northern Echo. "However, I am 26, and at a major crossroads in my career, so I won't be committing to a new deal at the moment." Villa will hope Downing eventually changes his mind otherwise they could face the same scenario as now confronts them with Ashley Young. He has only 12 months left of his current deal and is being linked with a move to Manchester United or Liverpool. Downing is delighted to be playing regularly after an injury-hit first campaign following his £12million move from Boro in the summer of 2009. But he also admits he wants to eventually play Champions League football. He said: "I want to keep playing and enjoying my football. When I was injured that made me realise what it can be like to be out for such a long time. "It hurt. The most important thing is to play football, but I do want to play in the Champions League at some point."

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26th May 2011, 11:13	#2 (permalink)
VoetbalWizard First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at the altar of ryan giggs Posts: 10,452	has bin dippers written all over him.

26th May 2011, 11:13	#3 (permalink)
Robbie Boy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: No player in World football could score against Stoke on a wet Wednesday night at the Brittania. Posts: 1,911	Liverpool beckons.

26th May 2011, 11:13	#4 (permalink)
Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fucker shits Posts: 40,609	Average footballer.

26th May 2011, 11:15	#5 (permalink)
Feeky_Magee First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: “They are the original colours of Manchester United and the fans wear them because they love this club. They have their reasons for doing it and we don’t think that they’re crazy. They’d like things to change.” Posts: 6,149	Good footballer I think, will do a job for Liverpool. Could link up well with Carroll.

26th May 2011, 11:22	#7 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 'Michael Owen was known as the Baby Faced Assassin, but Rooney was more like the Assassin Faced Baby' Posts: 2,806	If he wants Champions League football he sure as hell won't be getting it at Liverpool, he won't even be playing in Europe if he goes there. However he's decent, nothing more, so that probably fits a club like Liverpool right now

26th May 2011, 11:24	#8 (permalink)
Donkey's Ears Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,604	He's ok. Will fit in well at Liverpool and help Carroll.

26th May 2011, 11:26	#9 (permalink)
cj4_elmo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AKA: Slapanut Goat Smuggla Posts: 3,318	At some point loosely translates into, pay me well enough and I don;t mind not playing CL football.

26th May 2011, 12:03	#10 (permalink)
Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kagawacafe.net Posts: 5,789	A bit too hit-and-miss for me. He gets regular football in a decent attack and still doesn't shine in more than a handful of games a season.

26th May 2011, 12:16	#11 (permalink)
Number7 Ret's Slave Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I am very enjoy Posts: 28,165	He's complete and utter shite

26th May 2011, 12:17	#12 (permalink)
KingEric7 Winner of the Tabata bet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Patrice Evra is that which no greater can be conceived. Posts: 18,944	Typical Liverpool signing. He's found his level, for me. Don't know what business he has thinking he's good enough to play in the Champions League.

26th May 2011, 12:18	#13 (permalink)
Devilton First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 6,127	Average player who knew he was playing for his last big contract and so had the season of his life. Liverpool and years of mediocrity beckons.

26th May 2011, 12:18	#14 (permalink)
RedKaos Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dromund Kaas Posts: 12,843	Some caftards had him down to replace Giggs

26th May 2011, 12:32	#16 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,022	He's a decent player. Well suited to Liverpool.

26th May 2011, 12:48	#17 (permalink)
Brwned Poster of the year: 2010 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 33,938	Can't blame him, he's always had a reputation as a mediocre player at a midtable club so if he gets a chance to push on and play for a team aiming for CL football he'd have to take it. I don't think he's so bad; passing, striking, crossing - he's fairly good at. His technique's far from laughable. Offers good balance too. He's just a bit creatively inept, uninspiring, lacking that bit of spark needed to push on. Also, he's deceptively quick.

26th May 2011, 12:54	#18 (permalink)
Top Admin Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 23,558	I would love it if Liverpool got Downing instead of Ashley Young.

26th May 2011, 12:56	#19 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	He's a decent player who has improved since joining Villa, would be a good signing for Liverpool. A better player than Adam Johnson who is rated quite highly on the caf. Comfortably Villa's best player this season.

26th May 2011, 12:57	#20 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	Very underrated on here. Had a very good season

26th May 2011, 13:43	#22 (permalink)
teague Youth Team Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 352	A Villa fan mate of mine reckons he has been much better than Young this season. I don't think he has quite got the pace to be an effective winger at the very top level but he has a lot of quality about him.

26th May 2011, 13:47	#23 (permalink)
Devil may care First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,328	Obviously he is taking his best chance to get a move that may give him CL football, can't blame him really.

26th May 2011, 14:05	#25 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 20,030	his record in terms of assists over the years pretty much confirms hes nowhere near "shite".

26th May 2011, 14:52	#26 (permalink)
Rahul First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hunting The Hunter ! Posts: 12,699	P.E footballer. Right off the Gareth Barry spice rack. Stay well clear.

26th May 2011, 15:02	#28 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,031	Stewart fucking Downing wants CL football..

26th May 2011, 15:11	#30 (permalink)
Mitch Conor Holy CRAP BALLS!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,096	If Nani was to stay at United and be first choice LW, Valencia first choice RW, I could actually see Downing as a decent purchase as a genuinely left footed backup option on the left. I think his overall play has improved greatly over the last couple of years. No good enough to be first choice at United imo, but would be a good back up to Nani on the left

26th May 2011, 15:14	#32 (permalink)
Robbie Boy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: No player in World football could score against Stoke on a wet Wednesday night at the Brittania. Posts: 1,911	He isn't shite, nor is he particularly brilliant, he is very very average. Kind of like Barry, was at his level at Villa and if he moved up a level it would most likely be a level too far. Although; he is a very direct player with a good cross, and if he were to move to Liverpool he could prove a good supplier of goals for Carroll.

27th May 2011, 18:45	#36 (permalink)
Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 29,198	He is a bit limited but would improve Liverpool's squad. Kenny seem to want British players that know the English game.

27th May 2011, 18:48	#37 (permalink)
Twigginater WUM Alert! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obertans #1 fan. Posts: 5,587	He's an adequate squad signing and would do well at Liverpool. Would probably get similar stats for them as Park does for us.

27th May 2011, 20:05	#38 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London,UK Posts: 17,368	I wish Liverpool sign him.

27th May 2011, 20:09	#39 (permalink)
RedKaos Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dromund Kaas Posts: 12,843	I want Champions league football too. Why won't anyone sign me?

27th May 2011, 20:31	#40 (permalink)
davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,867	He's not special but wouldn't be a bad squad player. I think a fair few on here are dismissing 'Pool quite stupidly. Based on King Kenny's reign thus far, they could see a few upsets depending on who they bring in...