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Esteban Cambiasso
Wednesday, 24th May 2006
Fergie eyes Esteban Stuart Mathieson ESTEBAN CAMBIASSO: Midfielder has attracted Reds attention SIR Alex Ferguson has had another name added to his World Cup watch - Argentina's Esteban Cambiasso. The Inter Milan midfielder's name has emerged as part of a potential swap plus cash that would send Ruud van Nistelrooy to the San Siro. The Serie A club are understood to be keen on taking United's out-of-favour Dutch striker to Italy but haven't enough cash to afford a probable asking fee of around £12m. Inter owner Massimo Morati is reluctant to let Cambiasso go and was initially believed to have rejected the idea but if United insist that it is the only way a deal couild be brokered then the Italians may well relent. Tireless United are on the lookout this summer for a holding midfield player to bolster a weak Old Trafford engine room and South American Cambiasso ticks all the boxes for the Reds. Lyon's Mahamadou Diarra is still believed to be top of Fergie's wish-list but 25-year-old Cambiasso is also a tireless and disciplined midfielder. Sir Alex will be able to check out Cambiasso when the Argentinians face Holland, Ivory Coast and Serbia in Group C. Ferguson could also contact Gabriel Heinze for a reference as he, too, will be on duty with Jose Pekerman's side in Germany. Cambiasso helped Real Madrid to the La Liga title and the Intercontinental Cup before moving to Inter on a free in 2004 when his contract ran out. He scored an impressive goal in this season's Coppa Italia final against Roma as Inter won 3-1. |
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Edit - Just seen it and deleted the other thread. Not sure how duplicates came up. |
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I think you may be pleasantly surprised by Cambiasso. He has learned to tackle and it was indeed his skill in that area that allowed Mancini to ignore Davids two year ago. On his best days, he can even remind one of Redondo, which is very high praise in my book. Unfortunately, he doesn't do it consistently, and if he doesn't show up, Argentina will be in trouble.
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http://www.redcafe.net/showthread.ph...ight=Cambiasso
posted this a couple of months ago. The same price, the same player and same discussion. Estaban would be a great signing, allround player with a huge work-rate, Perfect age aswell. 12 million better that then the dubble figure for a france-based player. |
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Im rude and disprespectful to the ladies of the forum,though Im happy to cruise Jason and Suresh
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Not to the level of Gerrard..
But a leader on the pitch and touted as Zanetti's successor Very good player but we dont need him |
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Why the obsession with the old United?
a old Keane type and Scholes doing all the offencive work. BS if you ask me. cambiasso would work becuse saf wants a more fluid team. Getting a allround midfielder would work perfectly. If you have looked at Inters games, you will see that Cambiasso holds the defensiv role and veron the playmaker role.... |
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It could work in the Serie A. But a midfield combination of Diarra/Mascherano and Scholes is more solid than Combiasso and Scholes. |
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Even Real Madrid never used him as a holding mid. He partnered Makalele in the middle.
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Cambiasso is an above average midfielder who has done well at Inter but he would be a very underwhelming signing, an improvement on Duscher definitely but still, Cambiasso doesn't do anything outstandingly but many things well, and I would imagine we'd be looking to splash cash on our midfield this time next year, except candidates such as Diarra and Mascherano, hideously overpriced though they are, will not be available and there'd be a possibility of there being an even more barren spell. And who knows what could happen with Chelsea, maybe they will be in the mood to make wholesale changes to midfield next summer, it would preferable to sign high calibre players now whilst they're quite happy with Ballack
Inter on the other hand are often a joke when it comes to negotiating player sales (Cannavaro to Juventus, direct exchange for their third choice keeper that everyones has fogotten for example). If Ruud is leaving, maybe we could get Cambiasso for next to nothing and possibly even negotiate a deal for someone else whilst we're at it. Adriano would be a lovely signing to replace Ruud, but Stankovic would be nice as well. Perhaps we could also look at Cristiano Zanetti, who may not as reported be on his way to Juventus. Two solid midfielders with money left over for a truly outstanding player (But a potential crisis with strikers), or a solid midfielder with a cheaper outstanding one like Stankovic |
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Did I mention any where that either Diarra or Mascherano are better than Cambiasso? Show me that Quote:
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seems like he was being moved around, then. not good for a player. no wonder he didn't flourish... |
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With either Zidane and Raul dropping deep they never needed a distributor like Cambiasso to pull the strings in the middle. But he performed really well whenever he got a chance. If Fergie/CQ decide to stick with 4-3-3, Cambiasso would be a very good option in the middle. |
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have ya guys notice that the french league is crap....
playing in the premiership is like playing a groupstage champions league game every week...thats how the prem looks in my eyes.. do u think that diarra can make the jump and it might take him a bit...if thats the guy who we buy IFFFFFF and i hope its not him i just got a feeling he could be trash in the prem like djemba twins |
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nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter
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To be fair, 10M Cambiasso is a far better option than 25M Diarra. Firstly, I feel that Cambiasso offers more in going forward than Diarra does (though it's not a key factor when you're buying a defensive midfielder, Makelele is not that great at it either yet he is the best in his profession - but it's good when you have someone who is good in that aspect). Secondly, he has the experience in strongest leagues, as he has played in Spain and Italy, while Diarra has played only in Ligue1 and Eredivisie. You may say that Veron had this experience also yet he couldn't have proven himself in Premiership, but it doesn't strike me as a convincing argument - you can't compare him to Veron, he's significantly different player. I really hope we won't match Lyon's asking price as 25M is a loathful price, even for allegedly the best defensive midfielder around.
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Inter fans think cambiasso is untransferable,and they say there is no way inter will sell him,so they rate him very highly,we all know inter blunder in the transfer market,swapping a 3rd choice goalie for cannavro,and swapping pirlo for coco
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I haven't seen him play for a long time since they stopped showing Serie-A here .. When he was in Real - he wasn't that impressive but that could be well because when you watched Real at that time - the stars just keep you busy you don notice much about others
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Thus says Kemo
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For anyone to think Cambiasso is a better deal than Diarra obne has to be a fool. Diara is simply a midfield collosus who dorminates the area around his teams defence and can support the attack. Cambiasso like Carrick is a deep lying playmaker ala Pirlo. But betetr at tackling than both of those I mentioned. For me we should get both...
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Mascherano has all the qualities that Diarra has but he has from what ive seen and more importantly read from foreign fans forums (albeit Google translated) has Factor X - an innate aura of leadership and force of character that his team mates feed off..... remind you of anyone???
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Thus says Kemo
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Yes. Redondo DA2. That's why I'd buy Diarra and and add Mascherano or Cambiasso to our midfield. I personally believe if we paired Diarra with Mascherano we would be untouchable. Like Having Keane partner Viera in their hey day.
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