Euro 2008: Talent that's caught your eye

charlenefan · 9th June 2008, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Engelaar was amazing.

He's 28, I'm surprised I've never heard or seen him before.

28!!!

Who's he play for at the minute?

Sam#1 · 9th June 2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

28!!!

Who's he play for at the minute?

FC Twente

Vidicious · 9th June 2008, 22:08

Sneijder only turned 24 today, Van der Vaarts 25. Two gems there. Very similar players aswell. Goes to prove that similar players CAN work together, destroying the myth of Gerrard and Lampard who in truth are just overhyped beyond their abilities.

francobaresi · 9th June 2008, 22:08

Van Der Vaart for me

Tribec · 9th June 2008, 22:11

Engelaar, looked good tonight, however I have reservations that he's so old, and for some reason he reminded me of Carlton Palmer, but with a modicum of ability.

sonymobby · 9th June 2008, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Vidicious

Sneijder only turned 24 today, Van der Vaarts 25. Two gems there. Very similar players aswell. Goes to prove that similar players CAN work together, destroying the myth of Gerrard and Lampard who in truth are just overhyped beyond their abilities.

Well they are not that similard. Lampard can't control a game, someone like Ballack or Gerrard can.

zing · 9th June 2008, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

FC Twente

Steve McLaren's going there next, isn't he?

EZee · 9th June 2008, 22:32

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Originally Posted by zing

Steve McLaren's going there next, isn't he?

oh well.. im sure he will ruin him then

a_devil_inside · 9th June 2008, 22:33

Van Der Vaart and Sneijder were good tonight

redmanc · 9th June 2008, 22:35

Kuyt?

Sam#1 · 9th June 2008, 22:38

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Originally Posted by zing

Steve McLaren's going there next, isn't he?

Supposedly.

Ace · 9th June 2008, 22:41

Engelaar & De Jong both played well. I was also surprised with Romania's style of play. Very team oriented, and focused on connecting passes at speed.

Sarni · 9th June 2008, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Supposedly.

I don't see a point in replacing a coach who just got them into the Champions League against the odds.

RedThaiDevils#7 · 10th June 2008, 02:41

Ribery and Benzema had an okay game despite the fact that France were utter shite. Still don't know why Abidal is ahead of Evra and don't understand what Malouda offers to the team. They were both a piece of trash.

Gazza · 10th June 2008, 03:15

Engelaar was immense, but the fact that he is 28 still plying his trade in the Eredivisie suggests he just had a good game. Maybe worth keeping an eye on if he continues playing well.

Van Bronkhorst today was superb.

Gazza · 10th June 2008, 03:16

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Originally Posted by zing

Steve McLaren's going there next, isn't he?

I think that story has died. Don't think it will happen now.

VoetbalWizard · 10th June 2008, 03:18

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Originally Posted by zing

van der Vaart's got a buy-out clause in his contract that's very cheap, right? I remember reading it last year during the transfer window

vdv will go for dirt cheap.

his buyout clause is very low.

moutinho's isn't much higher either.

interesting question this.

VDV or moutinho?

who you lot like more?

i've always liked vdv, he was a legendary target for transfer muppets on here when he was at ajax.

Chris H · 10th June 2008, 03:52

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Originally Posted by redmanc

Kuyt?

Have to admit he played quite well. Set up two goals, quite nicely. I was very surprised to see van Bronckhorst starting, but he too played very well.

Not that we want either of them, but credit where it's due, they did well.

dno · 10th June 2008, 04:03

Engelaar is one of those players who has struggled to find the right role until recently. He was played wide left early on in his career then behind the front two and only recently has he been playing the kind of holding role at which he's excelling.

dno · 10th June 2008, 04:08

y the way I was hugely impressed by Christian Chivu playing the holding role in midfield for Romania today. He was superb. I remember Paul McGrath doing the same thing under big Ron and occasionally for Ireland. Chivu (admittedly just on today's performance) looked a match for any holding midfield player around, he wasn't simply destructive but used to ball very well and even creatively at times. It was a huge performance.

sincher · 10th June 2008, 08:36

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

vdv will go for dirt cheap.

his buyout clause is very low.

moutinho's isn't much higher either.

interesting question this.

VDV or moutinho?

who you lot like more?

i've always liked vdv, he was a legendary target for transfer muppets on here when he was at ajax.

Neither.

Trippin_Stoned · 10th June 2008, 08:57

Van Der Vaart and Sneijder impressed me again. They had some wonderful combination passes and both surprised me with their work ethic.

Chivu from Romania impressed me in the earlier game too, very combative and also passed the ball effectively.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 10th June 2008, 09:15

Engleaar (CM), Fritz (RB/RM) and Moutinho (AM) have all impressed me.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 10th June 2008, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Ace

Engelaar & De Jong both played well. I was also surprised with Romania's style of play. Very team oriented, and focused on connecting passes at speed.

I agree on both counts

Brwned · 10th June 2008, 10:15

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Originally Posted by charlenefan

Engelaar for the Dutch tonight

Never heard of him in my life but he ran the midfield against Italy

He's too similar to Carrick, I seen him in the warm up against Wales just before this match and knew what he was about, he can control the midfield brilliantly.

He's just like Huddlestone except he knows how to use his physical presence. Both are brilliant passers and can control the pace of the game.

Brwned · 10th June 2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by GAngel

moutinho was non existant until he very end of the game. Did he even get the ball in the first half.

Bollocks, just because he didn't stand out doesn't make him a bad player. It's called keeping it simple, you can't always go for the extravagant pass.

rooney__10 · 10th June 2008, 11:37

Moutinho and engalaar, podolski (good touch good burst of pace).

Benzema dissapointed but then again so did the whole of the french team. Contrary to the bbc I actually thought anelka was the best of the french forwards, made good runs and showed glimpses of class.

Get fucking abidal out and evra in they need some fucking passion and he'll give you that. Have some balls domenech u kunt.

redmanc · 10th June 2008, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Chris H

Have to admit he played quite well. Set up two goals, quite nicely. I was very surprised to see van Bronckhorst starting, but he too played very well.

Not that we want either of them, but credit where it's due, they did well.

Yeah he always seems to do a lot better than club level when hes with the national team, or i just hate the scousers that much my tinted specs come out

GAngel · 10th June 2008, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Brwned

Bollocks, just because he didn't stand out doesn't make him a bad player. It's called keeping it simple, you can't always go for the extravagant pass.

Go watch the game again and stop spouting other people's opinions. He was either non-existant or they just wouldn't pass to him take your pick. He was the least effective of all the midfielders but you think he was keeping it simple

Someone must have the game stats he must have touched the ball like 5 times total. The play was always around ronaldo while moutinho would watch from the other side of the field. he was clearly a passenger in the game.

Doesn't make him less of a player he's been doing it at club level for 2 years.

Top · 10th June 2008, 13:45

Stats for Joao Moutinho:

1 assist.
1 shot on goal
1 shot wide

1 foul commited
0 fouls suffered

He ran the most of any Portugese players (10277 meters)

Passes (Portugal)

Code:

Total passes - Players
Player		Passes	Comp.
Deco		56	61%
Bosingwa	52	69%
Pepe		46	80%
Ferreira 	44	84%
Carvalho	42	81%
Petit		37	86%
Ronaldo		37	59%
Moutinho	36	89%

Passes to teammates:

Code:

To Deco 	6 times
To Petit 	6 times
To Simão 	5 times
To RCarvalho 	4 times
To Ronaldo 	4 times
To Bosingwa 	2 times
To Ferreira	2 times
To Pepe		1 time
To Meireles	1 time
To Gomes	1 time

Passes to opponments (1):

Code:

To 23 - Volkan Demirel		1 time

Interceptions (6):

Code:

From Hakan Balta
From Hamit Altıntop
From Servet Çetin
From Gökhan Zan
From Sabri Sarıoğlu
From Kazım Kazım

Ground covered:

9th June 2008, 22:08	#43 (permalink)
Vidicious Flop Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Desailly is a God. Posts: 1,608	Sneijder only turned 24 today, Van der Vaarts 25. Two gems there. Very similar players aswell. Goes to prove that similar players CAN work together, destroying the myth of Gerrard and Lampard who in truth are just overhyped beyond their abilities.

9th June 2008, 22:08	#44 (permalink)
francobaresi Sleep inducing poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,699	Van Der Vaart for me

9th June 2008, 22:11	#45 (permalink)
Tribec Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Out and Proud of it.... I'm a Red and I'm from Salford. Posts: 2,028	Engelaar, looked good tonight, however I have reservations that he's so old, and for some reason he reminded me of Carlton Palmer, but with a modicum of ability.

9th June 2008, 22:33	#49 (permalink)
a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Little Britain Posts: 24,924	Van Der Vaart and Sneijder were good tonight

9th June 2008, 22:35	#50 (permalink)
redmanc First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: There is no spoon. Posts: 6,458	Kuyt?

9th June 2008, 22:41	#52 (permalink)
Ace Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Da Silva Fever Posts: 1,829	Engelaar & De Jong both played well. I was also surprised with Romania's style of play. Very team oriented, and focused on connecting passes at speed.

10th June 2008, 02:41	#54 (permalink)
RedThaiDevils#7 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: THAILAND Posts: 881	Ribery and Benzema had an okay game despite the fact that France were utter shite. Still don't know why Abidal is ahead of Evra and don't understand what Malouda offers to the team. They were both a piece of trash.

10th June 2008, 03:15	#55 (permalink)
Gazza Magic Carpet Pilot Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "The great thing about United, as a result of Matt Busby, is that they have a philosophy of a club that is very discernable. You know what Manchester United stand for." Posts: 24,520	Engelaar was immense, but the fact that he is 28 still plying his trade in the Eredivisie suggests he just had a good game. Maybe worth keeping an eye on if he continues playing well. Van Bronkhorst today was superb.

10th June 2008, 04:03	#59 (permalink)
dno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Triggs' Kennel Posts: 790	Engelaar is one of those players who has struggled to find the right role until recently. He was played wide left early on in his career then behind the front two and only recently has he been playing the kind of holding role at which he's excelling.

10th June 2008, 04:08	#60 (permalink)
dno Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Triggs' Kennel Posts: 790	y the way I was hugely impressed by Christian Chivu playing the holding role in midfield for Romania today. He was superb. I remember Paul McGrath doing the same thing under big Ron and occasionally for Ireland. Chivu (admittedly just on today's performance) looked a match for any holding midfield player around, he wasn't simply destructive but used to ball very well and even creatively at times. It was a huge performance.

10th June 2008, 08:57	#62 (permalink)
Trippin_Stoned Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,617	Van Der Vaart and Sneijder impressed me again. They had some wonderful combination passes and both surprised me with their work ethic. Chivu from Romania impressed me in the earlier game too, very combative and also passed the ball effectively.

10th June 2008, 09:15	#63 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 19,992	Engleaar (CM), Fritz (RB/RM) and Moutinho (AM) have all impressed me.

10th June 2008, 11:37	#67 (permalink)
rooney__10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,272	Moutinho and engalaar, podolski (good touch good burst of pace). Benzema dissapointed but then again so did the whole of the french team. Contrary to the bbc I actually thought anelka was the best of the french forwards, made good runs and showed glimpses of class. Get fucking abidal out and evra in they need some fucking passion and he'll give you that. Have some balls domenech u kunt.