Euro 2008: Talent that's caught your eye

D J Dog Toffee · 23rd June 2008, 21:27

Chiellini, he's looked class. Very solid and without his interventions the Spain game would have been over long before extra time.

I seem to recall him playing well in the other games as well.

Keano1999 · 27th June 2008, 18:45

Sergio Ramos - ok, now I see what the fuss is about, but he's like a more polished Micah Richards, he uses his athleticism bale himself out of bad positioning or when he's pushed too far up the pitch. If Ramos is part of a makeweight deal for Ronaldo, there are worse players we could get.

David Silva - looks very fast and skillful but he might be too small to do well in the Premier League. He got bundled over or pushed off the ball by the Germans.

REd FUn DevIl · 27th June 2008, 18:52

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Igor Akinfeev. Not that he is actually some big surprise but I think he proved his talent and I dare to say it but his style reminds me Iker Casillas. He has brigt future ahead of him.

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Akinfeev

Pretty good keeper but we dont need one right now and wont need after VDS retires, we already have Foster and he looks like an awesome future number 1.

AttackingFlair · 27th June 2008, 18:52

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Originally Posted by D J Dog Toffee

Chiellini, he's looked class. Very solid and without his interventions the Spain game would have been over long before extra time.

I seem to recall him playing well in the other games as well.

Agreed, did excellent against Torres and Villa.

Red Pavan · 27th June 2008, 18:52

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Originally Posted by Keano1999

Sergio Ramos - ok, now I see what the fuss is about, but he's like a more polished Micah Richards, he uses his athleticism bale himself out of bad positioning or when he's pushed too far up the pitch. If Ramos is part of a makeweight deal for Ronaldo, there are worse players we could get.

David Silva - looks very fast and skillful but he might be too small to do well in the Premier League. He got bundled over or pushed off the ball by the Germans.

Isn't that what they said about Fabregas?

Red Pavan · 27th June 2008, 18:54

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Agreed, did excellent against Torres and Villa.

He plays Left Back for his club Juventus, but i do agree that CB is probably his best position, he lacks a bit of pace to play well in the left back role.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 19:19

Marcos Senna, the player of the tournament for me

Brwned · 27th June 2008, 19:21

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Marcos Senna, the player of the tournament for me

We were close to signing him for a fairly cheap price two years ago, would've been a good signing.

Keano1999 · 27th June 2008, 19:21

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Marcos Senna, the player of the tournament for me

I'm not sure if he was this good 2 years ago when we were chasing him but he would've been a perfect replacement for Keane. Very tidy in possession and clinical when tackling.

Red Pavan · 27th June 2008, 19:22

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Marcos Senna, the player of the tournament for me

Agreed, although Michael Ballack might have something to say about that in the Final.

But, this hasn't been a tournament where a player has excelled in his position or stood out in front of everyone. This tournament has produced some exciting and intreging football but it showed how important team play is rather than a player standing out on his own.

Brwned · 27th June 2008, 19:23

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I'm not sure if he was this good 2 years ago when we were chasing him but he would've been a perfect replacement for Keane. Very tidy in possession and clinical when tackling.

He was, and for Spain he isn't even performing at the top of his game, his passing can be much more incisive and he has a quality shot on him. Still though, age isn't on his side.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 19:37

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I'm not sure if he was this good 2 years ago

I am. We just for some reason decided to buy British (Carrick and Hargreaves) instead of him. Age may have been a factor too.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 19:40

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Agreed, although Michael Ballack might have something to say about that in the Final.

Maybe. TBH that wouldn't change my opinion much.

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But, this hasn't been a tournament where a player has excelled in his position or stood out in front of everyone. This tournament has produced some exciting and intreging football but it showed how important team play is rather than a player standing out on his own.

I wonder. Certain sides look like they'd fall apart if one player was taken out. Ye they are amazing with him. That's what I see with Spain and Senna...

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 19:43

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We were close to signing him for a fairly cheap price two years ago, would've been a good signing.

I Agree. He is the embodiment of a true defensive midfielder. A proper midfielder with real defensive nouse. Not the wrongly classified Makelele clique

Stick · 27th June 2008, 19:47

Senna has been class in the Makelele role for Spain.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 19:51

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Senna has been class in the Makelele role......

Brwned · 27th June 2008, 19:52

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I Agree. He is the embodiment of a true defensive midfielder. A proper midfielder with real defensive nouse. Not the wrongly classified Makelele clique

Well put. I think that is what England miss. Every successful international team in the Euro's have had a defensive midfielder who did their job well; Frings,Senna, Aurelio, Semak etc. Why people didn't realise that was the reason for Gerrard and Lampard not working together at international level makes no sense to me.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 27th June 2008, 20:01

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Well put. I think that is what England miss. Every successful international team in the Euro's have had a defensive midfielder who did their job well; Frings,Senna, Aurelio, Semak etc. Why people didn't realise that was the reason for Gerrard and Lampard not working together at international level makes no sense to me.

True

hotshot2004 · 30th June 2008, 07:14

Modric, Moutinho, Arshavin (overated, however a decent prospect)

hotshot2004 · 30th June 2008, 07:17

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Well put. I think that is what England miss. Every successful international team in the Euro's have had a defensive midfielder who did their job well; Frings,Senna, Aurelio, Semak etc. Why people didn't realise that was the reason for Gerrard and Lampard not working together at international level makes no sense to me.

I agree with this, the reason, all of these teams had a nice EuRO was because of good DM, England did not qualify because they dont have any good DM's in their lineup, except from Hargo, which can't play because of Gerrard and Lampard wants to play in CM.

Red Pavan · 30th June 2008, 07:32

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Modric, Moutinho, Arshavin (overated, however a decent prospect)

He is 27 years old.

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D J Dog Toffee Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sconnie Botland - The 'toffee' part of my name in no way represents an Everton affiliation.. Posts: 1,280	Chiellini, he's looked class. Very solid and without his interventions the Spain game would have been over long before extra time. I seem to recall him playing well in the other games as well.

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Keano1999 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,185	Sergio Ramos - ok, now I see what the fuss is about, but he's like a more polished Micah Richards, he uses his athleticism bale himself out of bad positioning or when he's pushed too far up the pitch. If Ramos is part of a makeweight deal for Ronaldo, there are worse players we could get. David Silva - looks very fast and skillful but he might be too small to do well in the Premier League. He got bundled over or pushed off the ball by the Germans.

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Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 19,446	Marcos Senna, the player of the tournament for me

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Stick Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,373	Senna has been class in the Makelele role for Spain.

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