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Old 16th September 2008, 06:04   #41 (permalink)
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Brazil's Ronaldo claims City deal

The former Brazil striker Ronaldo claimed yesterday that he was close to accepting an offer to join Manchester City. The 31-year-old was released by Milan over the summer and is still working his way back to fitness after a knee injury.

"I like the project that Manchester City have presented me. They want to make the club one of the best in the world and I feel that I can help. It is the best offer I've received and it will be very interesting to play with Robinho. Me and him, together, we can score more than 50 goals."

There are suggestions that any deal would hinge on Ronaldo, whose knee problems have been persistent and who is overweight, proving his fitness to City, where his compatriot Robinho moved from Real Madrid on the final day of the transfer window this month.

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Old 16th September 2008, 06:13   #42 (permalink)
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He will be injured quite quickly I reckon
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Old 16th September 2008, 06:29   #43 (permalink)
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Fat, my arse.
He's more overweight than he's been, sure, but he's not exactly fat as flabby fat. Just because he hasn't got a six-pack at the moment due to the fact he was injured with a serious leg-injury which obviously imobilises you but leaves you with the same metabolism you have when you're training daily when you're fit. Footballers eat a lot of food due to the calories they burn off when training/playing; if they're not training/playing, they still eat twice or even three times as much as a non-athlete and therefore put the weight on.
Once Ronaldo getss back in training, and gets fit, you will see the old term 'form is temporary, class is permanent' come into play and I wouldn't bet against this legend of the modern age having at least another good few seasons left in him considering he is only 31 years old. I'd be concerned if he turns up at City, and I expressed my thoughts a couple of seasons ago saying maybe we should have taken a punt on acquiring his services rather than Larsson - as good as Larsson's cameo was for us, I expect Ferguson would have been an ideal manager to guide him, with Queiroz's influence being important.
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Old 16th September 2008, 07:54   #44 (permalink)
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The problem with Ronaldo started after that string of surgeries at Inter ... he would regain his fitness back but its only a matter of time before he gets injured again and adds weight. Fergie or any one else cannot do much about that.
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I know hes past it, and I know hes only going to go for the money and I don't wish City any success...but I'd like to see him in the Premiership. Would be interesting to see him alongside Robinho.
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Signing players that Milan decided weren't worth keeping hold of is like taking things from the bins behind charity shops.
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The guy is fighting with Saha and Eto'o for "striker with the most fucked knees in football". Even Milan thought he was finished and they routinely buy players that are years past their peak and won't admit that a player is getting too old unless he tries to collect his pay packet with a pension book.

Signing players that Milan decided weren't worth keeping hold of is like taking things from the bins behind charity shops.
Berlusconi almost offered him another contract and the fat one was chuckling had his pen ready for another big paycheck. With fans protesting and even Berlusconi Jr ridiculing him publicly in the media, he rolled back.
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Man City deny Ronaldo speculation

Manchester City have rejected Brazil striker Ronaldo's claims that he is on the verge of joining his compatriot Robinho at Eastlands.

The 31-year-old three-time world player of the year, currently recovering from a serious knee injury, is a free agent after leaving AC Milan in the summer.

Ronaldo was quoted as saying City had made "the best offer I've received".

However, a City spokesman said the club met Ronaldo's representatives but chose not to follow up their interest.

"We had shown a past interest in bringing the player to the football club in the right circumstances and spoke to him and his representatives," revealed the spokesman.

"However, we have chosen not to pursue the matter."

The former Barcelona, Real Madrid and AC Milan forward has been plagued by injury problems in recent seasons and has not played since he ruptured a knee ligament while turning out for Milan in February.

But the French surgeons who operated on his left knee have said Ronaldo could be fit to play after two to three months of heavy work-outs to build up the strength in his leg.

Ronaldo said he could help make City "one of the best clubs in the world" and predicted a partnership with Robinho could yield 50 goals in the Premier League.

"I like the project that City presented me," said Ronaldo, who has been training with Brazilian club Flamengo.

"It's the best offer I've received and it will be interesting to play with Robinho."

City stunned the football world with the £32.5m record signing of Robinho from Real Madrid and the club's new owners Abu Dhabi United Group have spoken about bringing several world-class players to Eastlands.

Liverpool's Fernando Torres, Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas and Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo are some of the names that City's owners have revealed they want to sign.
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Old 16th September 2008, 19:57   #51 (permalink)
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ffs sign him...

then when madrid come offering stupid money for "Ronaldo" in the transfer window see if we cant pull a fast one
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Fat, my arse.
He's more overweight than he's been, sure, but he's not exactly fat as flabby fat. Just because he hasn't got a six-pack at the moment due to the fact he was injured with a serious leg-injury which obviously imobilises you but leaves you with the same metabolism you have when you're training daily when you're fit. Footballers eat a lot of food due to the calories they burn off when training/playing; if they're not training/playing, they still eat twice or even three times as much as a non-athlete and therefore put the weight on.
Once Ronaldo getss back in training, and gets fit, you will see the old term 'form is temporary, class is permanent' come into play and I wouldn't bet against this legend of the modern age having at least another good few seasons left in him considering he is only 31 years old. I'd be concerned if he turns up at City, and I expressed my thoughts a couple of seasons ago saying maybe we should have taken a punt on acquiring his services rather than Larsson - as good as Larsson's cameo was for us, I expect Ferguson would have been an ideal manager to guide him, with Queiroz's influence being important.
What an absolute load of horseshit.

A fully functional player during the season may eat many more claories than the average man but it wont be coming from beer and junk food. It;s complex carbs and protein - usually distinctly mundane foods.

It's not rocket science. A player who is injured will not be training and therefore requires less food to function. hence why players rarely come back from even long term injuries overweight. He's obviously totally ill disciplined. As a proffesional athlete, if he was serious about making a comeback he'd be lokking after himslelf.

Ronaldo must be carrying at least a stone and a half that he'd need to lose to be anyhwere near to being able to play at the top level. As any boxer will tell you that weight is damn hard to shift - especially if you've had three or four potentially career ending knee injuries.

Ronaldo may come to city - probably for the paycheck, but with his lack of pace will rarely trouble PL defences - hence why nobody other than city want him.
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Part of the problem should be attributed to PSV for packing him with steroids, that eventually turned the skinny lad to a stout monster. Initially Ronaldo was able to cope physically with defenders better with his stimulated muscular growth, but his bone mass acquistion couldn't match up his muscle development, and one major injury he was finished, same with Del Piero.

Even when he shredded some weight for the World cup it was a matter of time he went fat. You cannot blame the indiscipline personal life of a footballer if his fitness levels even during the midseason was far from convincing.
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Part of the problem should be attributed to PSV for packing him with steroids, that eventually turned the skinny lad to a stout monster. Initially Ronaldo was able to cope physically with defenders better with his stimulated muscular growth, but his bone mass acquistion couldn't match up his muscle development, and one major injury he was finished, same with Del Piero.

Even when he shredded some weight for the World cup it was a matter of time he went fat. You cannot blame the indiscipline personal life of a footballer if his fitness levels even during the midseason was far from convincing.
I'm certain thats libellous. Hope PSV's soliciotrs don't read that.
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The guy is fighting with Saha and Eto'o for "striker with the most fucked knees in football". Even Milan thought he was finished and they routinely buy players that are years past their peak and won't admit that a player is getting too old unless he tries to collect his pay packet with a pension book.

Signing players that Milan decided weren't worth keeping hold of is like taking things from the bins behind charity shops.
I'm always impressed by your posts. You know your football and you have a nice way with words. I think that you're probably a sports journalist. And not a tabloid paper. I can't get the idea out of my head now that you are, in fact, Patrick Barclay who writes for the Telegraph.
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[quote=Chief;5116892]Now not sure about anyone else but for free there is no way i could understand us not trying to sign him.. I realise he doesn't fit into the youth policy.. He's fat and well most probably finished after 4 knee reconstruction but he's just too good a risk to turn down.

Really, he has done knee's before and continued to score, lets face it we never saw the best of him. And yet he has scored well everywhere he's played! Scoring titles in the Eredivise, Liga and Seria A. Hard to argue..

I know it would be a massive risk, but does anyone actually believe this Manucho is even going to play???[/QUOTE

You should change sports....your example is like bringing Babe Ruth back to life.
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Ronaldo may come to city - probably for the paycheck, but with his lack of pace will rarely trouble PL defences - hence why nobody other than city want him.
Pace or no pace, Ronaldo is more than a handful even if looks far from being fit.

The issue even if any top club rehablitates him, its only a matter of two or three months he gets crocked up again.
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Pace or no pace, Ronaldo is more than a handful even if looks far from being fit.
The issue even if any top club rehablitates him, its only a matter of two or three months he gets crocked up again.
How exactly does that work? One of Ronaldo's major weapons was his speed - hence why he never reached teh heights he did at Barca after his serious knee injuries at inter.

The fact is if he isn't deemed good enough for Milan in Serie A - one of the slowest leagues in Europe then how on earth would he cope with the PL?

We're too good to be signing other team's cast offs - especially when he isn't as good as any of the three forward we already have.
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How exactly does that work? One of Ronaldo's major weapons was his speed - hence why he never reached teh heights he did at Barca after his serious knee injuries at inter.

The fact is if he isn't deemed good enough for Milan in Serie A - one of the slowest leagues in Europe then how on earth would he cope with the PL?

We're too good to be signing other team's cast offs - especially when he isn't as good as any of the three forward we already have.
He would have been good enough for Milan if he didn't get injured again. In the league he scored 9 goals in 16 league starts, as always his record was one in two or better.

We shouldn't be looking at signing him, but he could still do a job for top teams without his speed. If he tries hard enough he could do well at City, if he goes there.
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He would have been good enough for Milan if he didn't get injured again. In the league he scored 9 goals in 16 league starts, as always his record was one in two or better.

We shouldn't be looking at signing him, but he could still do a job for top teams without his speed. If he tries hard enough he could do well at City, if he goes there.
You're entitled to you opinion but i don't agree.

His record at milan was decent but Serie A couldn't be more different that teh PL.

The game in italy is much slower, consequently forwards need to be quick enough to get on the end of a chance. The difference in adapting was clear with Shevchenko. he looked rapid in Serie A and relied on getting in behind teams - when he came to the PL he looked very average largely becuase he wasn't quick enough to play that type of game.

Irrespective, and decent performances from Ronaldo would rely on him actually getting fit - that is not just "uninjured" but actually fit, which is a very very big issue judging by the photos posted above.
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You're entitled to you opinion but i don't agree.

His record at milan was decent but Serie A couldn't be more different that teh PL.

The game in italy is much slower, consequently forwards need to be quick enough to get on the end of a chance. The difference in adapting was clear with Shevchenko. he looked rapid in Serie A and relied on getting in behind teams - when he came to the PL he looked very average largely becuase he wasn't quick enough to play that type of game.

Irrespective, and decent performances from Ronaldo would rely on him actually getting fit - that is not just "uninjured" but actually fit, which is a very very big issue judging by the photos posted above.
I was just making the point that what Vijay was saying, "Pace or no pace, Ronaldo is more than a handful even if looks far from being fit.", is true. Even though he's lost his pace he's still a lethal finisher and proved that with his record in Serie A, 1 in 2 is a good record.
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How exactly does that work? One of Ronaldo's major weapons was his speed - hence why he never reached teh heights he did at Barca after his serious knee injuries at inter.

The fact is if he isn't deemed good enough for Milan in Serie A - one of the slowest leagues in Europe then how on earth would he cope with the PL?

We're too good to be signing other team's cast offs - especially when he isn't as good as any of the three forward we already have.
His scoring record for Real Madrid isn't bad at all .
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