Fellaini

Baxter · 10th September 2012, 02:27

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Originally Posted by SittingBull

No thanks.. Since everybody want us to play more short intricate passing, he'd be exactly the opposite. He excels in Everton football but would be quite limited with our style of footballing. I would rather Lassana Diara.

Who's just signed for Anzhi.

RDCR07 · 10th September 2012, 03:52

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Originally Posted by SittingBull

No thanks.. Since everybody want us to play more short intricate passing, he'd be exactly the opposite. He excels in Everton football but would be quite limited with our style of footballing. I would rather Lassana Diara.

We are not going to become a long ball team just because we get one tall guy. He would help us a lot in set piece situations and also to help defend. He would be a great addition to our squad.

puNANI · 10th September 2012, 05:32

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I was very surpised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January.
Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good. Kevin Mirallas and some other good players joined us to make a better squad in order to realize a good championship in the line of the end of the last one.
So with Everton, I am ready to play all the season and to reach our goals of this season. However, my only concern for the moment is of course our (Red Devils) Tuesday's game against Croatia.
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SittingBull · 10th September 2012, 05:33

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Originally Posted by RDCR07

We are not going to become a long ball team just because we get one tall guy. He would help us a lot in set piece situations and also to help defend. He would be a great addition to our squad.

Not really. That is such a primitive view. A midfielder has to possess much more than that, and at least from the Berbatov episode, we know that mobility, passing and quick thinking is essential to how we conduct our football. Players like Fellani only excel in mid-table teams and rarely found in top tier European teaims due to their limitations. He is only rated here cos we have probably one of the physically weakest teams in Europe and gets trampled on each and everytime we meet a team with a muscular midfield presence.

iAm20Legend · 10th September 2012, 05:40

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Either being tapped up, or looking for a pay rise.

Aye. Strange thing to say after the window has shut, so I guess he's lobbying for a pay rise, must've seen how the media were singing about him when he did us in the first game, and decided the time was right.

Not a bad player mind you. But I can't make up my mind if he would fit into our style of play. We'd probably be better at set-pieces for sure though.

SharkyMcShark · 10th September 2012, 05:41

Didn't he also say this last year, but before the window shut?

That'sHernandez · 11th September 2012, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Varun_Utd

I'd take him too. Dont think he'd want a squad role though and i dont think he's good enough to start for us when Carrick is fit unless we're facing a really strong team and need to play both.

The timing of it is totally stupid.

Or when we have our seemingly annual defence crisis and have to play Carrick at centreback.

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

With the loan move? Or Fellaini?

In regards to Fellaini ; Out of the blue.
The loan ; Something went wrong with the paperwork, we probably left it too late for Brugges to get it all sorted. Which is a shame as we would have got him.

Been thinking about this, but there was also a quote that he was disappointed that Vadis wasn't coming anymore but like you say, it seems a bit far fetched. Possibly the reason he is saying it now (if true) is so we can get targets sorted for when we cash in on him. What's strange too is that he signed a 5 year deal in November, so he didn't show any signs of wanting to leave at all.

Could say it in private to Moyes though, no?

goldenballs · 26th September 2012, 10:27

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Hernandez - BFA · 26th September 2012, 10:44

If we could transform him into a full on centre midfielder, then I'd love to see him here. Seems he's more of a "in the hole" at the moment, and even though he can be an absolute beast there at times, I find he can be quite wastful in front of goal.

Alas, him in centre midfield would be great. He'd add some grit, presence and technical ability there. He could become our very own Yaya Toure - a running tank.

Still, I can't see him coming here. If/when he leaves Everton, I can see him leaving the PL. I can't see City or Chelsea signing him.

KanieKaned · 26th September 2012, 10:45

meh we'll see

SilentWitness · 26th September 2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by Hernandez - BFA

If we could transform him into a full on centre midfielder, then I'd love to see him here. Seems he's more of a "in the hole" at the moment, and even though he can be an absolute beast there at times, I find he can be quite wastful in front of goal.

Alas, him in centre midfield would be great. He'd add some grit, presence and technical ability there. He could become our very own Yaya Toure - a running tank.

Still, I can't see him coming here. If/when he leaves Everton, I can see him leaving the PL. I can't see City or Chelsea signing him.

Why would you need to transform him into that when that is where he has played for most of his time with us? It's only since the back end of last season that Moyes has used him solely as an CAM.

RedRover · 26th September 2012, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Hernandez - BFA

If we could transform him into a full on centre midfielder, then I'd love to see him here. Seems he's more of a "in the hole" at the moment, and even though he can be an absolute beast there at times, I find he can be quite wastful in front of goal.

Alas, him in centre midfield would be great. He'd add some grit, presence and technical ability there. He could become our very own Yaya Toure - a running tank.

Still, I can't see him coming here. If/when he leaves Everton, I can see him leaving the PL. I can't see City or Chelsea signing him.

This to me is the problem - he's not a player who'll sit deep, if anything he's playing of the forward for Everton in the same way that Cahill did (and the reason why they let Cahill go).

He's a good player but I think we need someone with discipline in midefield to keep the shape - and not bomb forward at every avilable opportunity. Top player, just don't see where he'd fit in

Hernandez - BFA · 26th September 2012, 13:32

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

Why would you need to transform him into that when that is where he has played for most of his time with us? It's only since the back end of last season that Moyes has used him solely as an CAM.

Apologies.

SilentWitness · 26th September 2012, 13:35

No worries. It was only really when Cahill tailed off/left that he has become a towering force in attack. Plus the introduction of Jelavic and Gibson has helped. Jelavic/Fellaini have a good understanding and Gibson brings the presence to the midfield that Fellaini did. Albeit in a different way.

Nate Dogg · 26th September 2012, 14:35

Prefer Dembele....now that he is at Spurs (our feeder club) i reckon we will sign him next summer for £30m..

Freak · 26th September 2012, 14:43

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

Why would you need to transform him into that when that is where he has played for most of his time with us? It's only since the back end of last season that Moyes has used him solely as an CAM.

How has he done playing in a deeper midfield role? I've never been impressed whenever I've seen him play that. In fact, its only after converting into a CAM that he's suddenly become to hyped up in the premier league.

RedRover · 26th September 2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Freak

How has he done playing in a deeper midfield role? I've never been impressed whenever I've seen him play that. In fact, its only after converting into a CAM that he's suddenly become to hyped up in the premier league.

I think he's more than capable of doing that, has all the attributes - big question is whether he would want to or whether he can curb that instinct to get forward.

Can be a problem if a midfielder does that and he's the one supposed to be covering - Gerrard did it frequestly in Liverpool in his pomp and while he was great goingt forward you could drive a double decker bus through the gaps he sued to leave - hence why Alonso and Mascherano were the preferred two.

This is why I don't see him as a logical fit.

SilentWitness · 26th September 2012, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Freak

How has he done playing in a deeper midfield role? I've never been impressed whenever I've seen him play that. In fact, its only after converting into a CAM that he's suddenly become to hyped up in the premier league.

I think the only thing he would need to improve on in the deeper midfield role for a top team is his range of passing. He's a ball-winner first and foremost when played there. Another reason why him playing just behind the striker has been key for us this calender year. He wins it high up the pitch because of not only his but the whole teams pressure. When he loses it he more often than not wins it back too.

RDCR07 · 26th September 2012, 15:01

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Originally Posted by RedRover

I think he's more than capable of doing that, has all the attributes - big question is whether he would want to or whether he can curb that instinct to get forward.

Can be a problem if a midfielder does that and he's the one supposed to be covering - Gerrard did it frequestly in Liverpool in his pomp and while he was great goingt forward you could drive a double decker bus through the gaps he sued to leave - hence why Alonso and Mascherano were the preferred two.

This is why I don't see him as a logical fit.

I don't think him bombing forward is going to be a problem. The coaching staff will make him realize his position and he will understand it as well. With good players around him attacking, he doesn't need to attack unless its a set piece situation.

Red Defence · 27th September 2012, 18:04

Don't know why we didn't buy him 3 years ago. Causes us problems whenever we play Everton.

Ekeke · 27th September 2012, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Red Defence

Don't know why we didn't buy him 3 years ago. Causes us problems whenever we play Everton.

Lennon has caused us problems each time we've played Spurs in the last few years. Guess we should buy him as well

Striker10 · 27th September 2012, 20:30

It's not a stupid point to make. Sir Alex has done it in the past. Asking his defenders who they found the hardest. Fellaini is a player, at 24 who could offer us something. Lennon, isn't better then what we have so in that respect, I think he'd be a very useful squad member and potentially a good first teamer but you just never know these days where a player will end up.

Brwned · 27th September 2012, 21:28

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

Why would you need to transform him into that when that is where he has played for most of his time with us? It's only since the back end of last season that Moyes has used him solely as an CAM.

He said in a post-match interview just over a week ago about how he enjoyed playing "further forward more" because that's where he can get goals and help the team.

Jimy_Hills_Chin · 10th November 2012, 20:11

Sideshow has had a superb start to the season: 10 starts, 6 goals and 3 assists. His role has changed somewhat, now he shapes up as a attacking midfielder of some description. I think in one previous season he made more tackles than anyone in the league, now he averages just 1.7 per game.

Still not sure that he would worth his expected fee to us.

kouroux · 10th November 2012, 20:13

A serious candidate for POTY

Ekeke · 10th November 2012, 21:16

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Originally Posted by kouroux

A serious candidate for POTY

Surely you mean Everton player of the year... In which case he has a fair bit to go to catch Baines.

thegregster · 10th November 2012, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Jimy_Hills_Chin

Sideshow has had a superb start to the season: 10 starts, 6 goals and 3 assists. His role has changed somewhat, now he shapes up as a attacking midfielder of some description. I think in one previous season he made more tackles than anyone in the league, now he averages just 1.7 per game.

Still not sure that he would worth his expected fee to us.

Cost Everton £15mil so I assume they would be looking for around £30mil form him.

Ace · 10th November 2012, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Surely you mean Everton player of the year... In which case he has a fair bit to go to catch Baines.

I don't agree with that at all.

Ekeke · 10th November 2012, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Ace

I don't agree with that at all.

Baines has created the most oppertunities in the league this season. The most passes to set up a chance, and also the most crosses (2 different things)

Thats 1 more key pass per game than Cazorla, over 1 more key pass per game than Silva. 1 more cross per game than Bannon who has the 2nd most.

How many goals would Fellaini have without Baines? Not too many.

yamo123x · 10th November 2012, 22:47

The guy is a handful. We so lack a physical presence in our team

Striker10 · 10th November 2012, 22:57

Fellaini is a good player. He's asked to do a job at Everton and he's good at it. His performance again us, was inspired. It wasn't a fluke. Fellaini is more valuable to Everton then any other player because he can play a number of roles and he's young enough still to improve.

jakec · 10th November 2012, 22:58

I'd like him here more then any other CM in the league

Ekeke · 10th November 2012, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Striker10

Fellaini is a good player. He's asked to do a job at Everton and he's good at it. His performance again us, was inspired. It wasn't a fluke. Fellaini is more valuable to Everton then any other player because he can play a number of roles and he's young enough still to improve.

He likes playing there and Everton can replace him in all roles. Who is their reserve left back? We never find out.

SilentWitness · 10th November 2012, 23:09

I think that all you need to see in Fellaini to realise is a world class midfielder is that when he's used in a defensive role, we have excellent defensive stats (which was shown in his own individual defensive stats for the past two seasons) and when he's used in an attacking sense like most of this season, he and the team have had very impressive attacking stats.

Ekeke · 10th November 2012, 23:15

Everton had great defensive stats last season. The season before that they conceeded the 7th least goals and they have conceeded the 8th least goals this season.

OGkush · 10th November 2012, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Baines has created the most oppertunities in the league this season. The most passes to set up a chance, and also the most crosses (2 different things)

Thats 1 more key pass per game than Cazorla, over 1 more key pass per game than Silva. 1 more cross per game than Bannon who has the 2nd most.

How many goals would Fellaini have without Baines? Not too many.

Funny how over half the people on here didn't want Baines. And some people's claims were: "Even the Evra of now (this being prior to the start of this season) is better than Baines, and he's not much younger so it's pointless."

Not saying Evra's been bad this year because he's actually improved a bit, but having Baines would definitely significantly improve us.

Solius · 10th November 2012, 23:37

I still think we should sign him.

OGkush · 11th November 2012, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Solius

I still think we should sign him.

You're not alone, but then again there's quite a few I'd like us to sign xD

BD94 · 11th November 2012, 00:10

No thanks.

Sojiro · 11th November 2012, 00:13

His celebrations are the equivalent of your mate trying to high five you and you go with the fist bump. Just awkward.

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10th September 2012, 05:32	#443 (permalink)
puNANI Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Down Under, pun intended. Posts: 2,377	From his FB Guys, I was very surpised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January. Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good. Kevin Mirallas and some other good players joined us to make a better squad in order to realize a good championship in the line of the end of the last one. So with Everton, I am ready to play all the season and to reach our goals of this season. However, my only concern for the moment is of course our (Red Devils) Tuesday's game against Croatia. Whether you're in Belgium or England, thank you from my heart for your support … Marouane

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SharkyMcShark Horrified Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 19,936	Didn't he also say this last year, but before the window shut?

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Hernandez - BFA Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Enough of these dubstep jokes - just drop it! Posts: 4,391	If we could transform him into a full on centre midfielder, then I'd love to see him here. Seems he's more of a "in the hole" at the moment, and even though he can be an absolute beast there at times, I find he can be quite wastful in front of goal. Alas, him in centre midfield would be great. He'd add some grit, presence and technical ability there. He could become our very own Yaya Toure - a running tank. Still, I can't see him coming here. If/when he leaves Everton, I can see him leaving the PL. I can't see City or Chelsea signing him.

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KanieKaned First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Likes His Muffins Moyest Posts: 5,675	meh we'll see

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SilentWitness Everton fan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland. Posts: 4,223	No worries. It was only really when Cahill tailed off/left that he has become a towering force in attack. Plus the introduction of Jelavic and Gibson has helped. Jelavic/Fellaini have a good understanding and Gibson brings the presence to the midfield that Fellaini did. Albeit in a different way.

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Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,588	Prefer Dembele....now that he is at Spurs (our feeder club) i reckon we will sign him next summer for £30m..

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Red Defence First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: “United stands for attacking, attractive football played at high speed, with one-touch passing combinations, individual skill and unpredictability. That’s all conducted at pace, with intent.” Posts: 7,809	Don't know why we didn't buy him 3 years ago. Causes us problems whenever we play Everton.

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Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,088	It's not a stupid point to make. Sir Alex has done it in the past. Asking his defenders who they found the hardest. Fellaini is a player, at 24 who could offer us something. Lennon, isn't better then what we have so in that respect, I think he'd be a very useful squad member and potentially a good first teamer but you just never know these days where a player will end up.

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Jimy_Hills_Chin Desperately wants to be ITK Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: ITK Posts: 9,636	Sideshow has had a superb start to the season: 10 starts, 6 goals and 3 assists. His role has changed somewhat, now he shapes up as a attacking midfielder of some description. I think in one previous season he made more tackles than anyone in the league, now he averages just 1.7 per game. Still not sure that he would worth his expected fee to us.

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kouroux No Lifer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 32,509	A serious candidate for POTY

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yamo123x Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,100	The guy is a handful. We so lack a physical presence in our team

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Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,088	Fellaini is a good player. He's asked to do a job at Everton and he's good at it. His performance again us, was inspired. It wasn't a fluke. Fellaini is more valuable to Everton then any other player because he can play a number of roles and he's young enough still to improve.

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jakec I'm a fecking politics student for Gods sake Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Follow me @_JakeCullen_ Posts: 20,802	I'd like him here more then any other CM in the league

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SilentWitness Everton fan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland. Posts: 4,223	I think that all you need to see in Fellaini to realise is a world class midfielder is that when he's used in a defensive role, we have excellent defensive stats (which was shown in his own individual defensive stats for the past two seasons) and when he's used in an attacking sense like most of this season, he and the team have had very impressive attacking stats.

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Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,412	Everton had great defensive stats last season. The season before that they conceeded the 7th least goals and they have conceeded the 8th least goals this season.

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Solius I am a mod, I swear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everybody will be dancing and be doing it right. Posts: 49,463	I still think we should sign him.

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BD94 First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 10,089	No thanks.

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