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Old 9th August 2008, 00:38   #41 (permalink)
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If there are no other interested clubs in Berbatov, and the only one (us) have other options rather than Berbatov, this will lower the requested price for him hopefully. Mind-games at its best
Your explanation assumes that Spurs want to sell - they don't.

Spurs would prefer to keep Berbatov, but if he wants to leave then they'll reluctantly let him go, but only if Levy's minimim price is met - a price that I'm sure has been communicated to MUFC. If that price is not met, Berbs will stay. There's no middle ground. Spurs aren't looking to negotiate on this because, as I've said, they don't actually want to sell him.
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Old 9th August 2008, 00:41   #42 (permalink)
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Your explanation assumes that Spurs want to sell - they don't.

Spurs would prefer to keep Berbatov, but if he wants to leave then they'll reluctantly let him go, but only if Levy's minimim price is met - a price that I'm sure has been communicated to MUFC. If that price is not met, Berbs will stay. There's no middle ground. Spurs aren't looking to negotiate on this because, as I've said, they don't actually want to sell him.
Tell us Glaston what are the ITK saying......
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Old 9th August 2008, 00:46   #43 (permalink)
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Just a proof of that was the start of last season with Rooney out for 2 months. Ronaldo turned into a goal machine last season but this time is out for 2 months and we should compensate such a loss with a man who can put the ball in the net.
That's why we're a great team. When we have players injured, other players step up. We are as reliant on our main players as any other team. Thankfully we have a great squad which can cope with injuries.

Maybe Ronaldo's injury will give Nani a chance to really shine. Or even more likely, it could give Tevez or Rooney a chance to shine. Since Tevez is our most in form player in pre-season it seems more likely that he would be the one to step it up, and he definitely has the ability and attitude to do it.
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Old 9th August 2008, 00:48   #44 (permalink)
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Tell us Glaston what are the ITK saying......
Nothing about Berbatov other than he's very pally with Modric - apparently this is partly because Bulgarian is close enough to Modric's native tongue for them to communicate easily.
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Old 9th August 2008, 00:48   #45 (permalink)
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I see, I needed to think really hard about that one.

I'll just let you think you're right.
You basically said what I thought in your last post, I'm not that good in expressing myself though as I'm not English-based.
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Big offers for Villa or Benzema please fuck spurs and levy and berbatov we have enough on hands with Ronny's tantrums do we really want two of em
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Old 9th August 2008, 00:57   #47 (permalink)
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Your explanation assumes that Spurs want to sell - they don't.

Spurs would prefer to keep Berbatov, but if he wants to leave then they'll reluctantly let him go, but only if Levy's minimim price is met - a price that I'm sure has been communicated to MUFC. If that price is not met, Berbs will stay. There's no middle ground. Spurs aren't looking to negotiate on this because, as I've said, they don't actually want to sell him.
and how can you assume that if he is sold indeed then it would be at the price that levy wants????

do you know that price

I don't think so

then stop making random statements on behalf of your club when you don't know shit yourself
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:08   #48 (permalink)
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Interesting. Hope it's all true, in that it won't be Berbatov or nobody and that Saha still has a chance. Like Pogue said though, most likely mind games.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:26   #49 (permalink)
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I hope we get someone in. But even if Fergie doesn't sign anyone, I won't be overly bothered.
We'll see.

We need a new forward - thats been obvious for a while and hopefully the Berbatov deal will come off.

It s dangerous going into the season short of players - especially with the current injury situation.

The Club world championship at the end of the year is a few games we don't really need and we'll need a big squad or we could lose ground.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:32   #50 (permalink)
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Your explanation assumes that Spurs want to sell - they don't.

Spurs would prefer to keep Berbatov, but if he wants to leave then they'll reluctantly let him go, but only if Levy's minimim price is met - a price that I'm sure has been communicated to MUFC. If that price is not met, Berbs will stay. There's no middle ground. Spurs aren't looking to negotiate on this because, as I've said, they don't actually want to sell him.
irrespective of what you say Spurs are over a barrel. They have a player who if he wants to leave won't sign a new deal. With two years to run his price will only drop. At the same time Spurs have a manager who wants to build a new squad so clearly the money will come in handy.

The problem seeems to be that Berba wants to go and only united and Barca are interested. While Barca might want him they don't appear to have the cash - especially while Eto'o remains.

I also don't belive all the talk of Spurs being willing to sell to a foreign club for less given that their chances of direct competition with United are slim. They should be sensible and raise what they can rather than wait till berba's agent can turn the screw with 18 months left on his current contract.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:33   #51 (permalink)
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Your explanation assumes that Spurs want to sell - they don't.

Spurs would prefer to keep Berbatov, but if he wants to leave then they'll reluctantly let him go, but only if Levy's minimim price is met - a price that I'm sure has been communicated to MUFC. If that price is not met, Berbs will stay. There's no middle ground. Spurs aren't looking to negotiate on this because, as I've said, they don't actually want to sell him.
are you telling us then Glaston that they wanted to sell Keane?
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:35   #52 (permalink)
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and how can you assume that if he is sold indeed then it would be at the price that levy wants????
I might just as well ask how you can assume that if he is sold it won't be at the price that levy wants?

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... stop making random statements on behalf of your club ...
Don't so be absurd - obviously I'm not making "statements on behalf of" Spurs and nor have I ever claimed to do so.

We're discussing the possible transfer of Berbatov and various people are giving their views, including you and including me. You don't like my views? Gee that's tough.

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... ... you don't know shit ...
I know one thing for sure: I know a hell of lot more than you do about Spurs, Levy, Berbatov and the background situation.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:35   #54 (permalink)
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It may not be a for message for Levy and Glaston, but to Berbatov.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:35   #55 (permalink)
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hey as long as it keeps the mongs from wanking over torres and liddypool im all for it
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:37   #56 (permalink)
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are you telling us then Glaston that they wanted to sell Keane?
I think Levy had said that Keane expressed a desire to leave after he found out about Liverpool's interest. Liverpool met the price Levy wanted, and that secured Keane's move (because they don't want to keep unsettled players). Unfortunately for us Berbatov's figure runs a little higher than Keane's, but I suppose you get what you pay for.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:45   #57 (permalink)
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not a regular transfer forum poster BUT this "programme" hasn't included football - which is when or where saha brakes down. so my worry is that if this "programme" included regular football he'd be shelved already. i'd love to see a new proven (at any top flight club) striker brought in. i wouldn't be banking on saha's fitness for an entire season simply because he hasn't completed one for some time.
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Old 9th August 2008, 01:50   #58 (permalink)
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irrespective of what you say Spurs are over a barrel. They have a player who if he wants to leave won't sign a new deal. With two years to run his price will only drop. At the same time Spurs have a manager who wants to build a new squad so clearly the money will come in handy.
Has it ever occurred to you that Spurs might want to keep Berbatov so that he plays for us in our bid for top 4? Has it ever occurred to you that Spurs aren't any more concerned about his value dropping than Fergie would be if he signs him?

Of course money always comes in handy - but Spurs aren't short of money and can easily afford to conduct their rest of the transfer without selling Berbatov. If an offer comes in that is too good to refuse (Levy's minimum price) and if Berbatov wants to leave and if we first tie up a replacement, then he'll be sold - but not otherwise. I entirely fail to see why that is so hard to understand.

All this talk of Spurs being 'over a barrel' is pure wishful thinking.

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... Spurs .. They should be sensible and raise what they can rather than wait till berba's agent can turn the screw with 18 months left on his current contract.
Be sensible? He's one of the best forwards in the world - so why is it not sensible for the club to want him to play for us next season?

PS. He has effectively 4 years to go on his contract, so '18 months left' will be two and half years away.
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I think Levy had said that Keane expressed a desire to leave after he found out about Liverpool's interest. Liverpool met the price Levy wanted, and that secured Keane's move (because they don't want to keep unsettled players). Unfortunately for us Berbatov's figure runs a little higher than Keane's, but I suppose you get what you pay for.
Exactly so.
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Old 9th August 2008, 02:38   #60 (permalink)
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I might just as well ask how you can assume that if he is sold it won't be at the price that levy wants?
Unlike you I never claimed that he would be bought sold at any said price
and you have answered my point
We never claim that he will be bought at a price which is below or above anybody's claim, SO HOW CAN YOU?????????

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Don't so be absurd - obviously I'm not making "statements on behalf of" Spurs and nor have I ever claimed to do so.
Then you simply cannot say that levy doesn't need to sell, because Gee you are NOT LEVY so you don't know what he will or wants to do, so STOP making assumptions and saying levy this levy that

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We're discussing the possible transfer of Berbatov and various people are giving their views, including you and including me. You don't like my views? Gee that's tough.
I don't give a shit about whether your opinion is pro or against mine or anyone else's but I do argue about you spouting shit that you are so dead sure is true, when it is nothing more than speculation

gee how stupid can you get ehhh?

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I know one thing for sure: I know a hell of lot more than you do about Spurs, Levy, Berbatov and the background situation.
And why is that, are you levy's little personal gimp and he tells you everything while you suckin him off???
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I think Levy had said that Keane expressed a desire to leave after he found out about Liverpool's interest. Liverpool met the price Levy wanted, and that secured Keane's move (because they don't want to keep unsettled players). Unfortunately for us Berbatov's figure runs a little higher than Keane's, but I suppose you get what you pay for.
and how do you know it met Levy's estimation???
maybe he wanted more but settled fro something in betwene liverpool's evaluation and his own.
How can you know unless of course you are either:
a) Levy himself
b) some liverpool guy who did the negotiation
c) assuming stuff on your own like Glastonshit
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Old 9th August 2008, 02:54   #62 (permalink)
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Old 9th August 2008, 03:24   #63 (permalink)
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jatin I think you should call it a day night mate
its only 10.20 pm mate on a friday nite

now wheres the beer
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and how do you know it met Levy's estimation???
maybe he wanted more but settled fro something in betwene liverpool's evaluation and his own.
How can you know unless of course you are either:
a) Levy himself
b) some liverpool guy who did the negotiation
c) assuming stuff on your own like Glastonshit
Listen, this entire forum is filled to the brim with presumptuous discussions. We know next to nothing aside from what we see on the surface.

Here is what I see: figures touted just about everywhere of Levy demanding 30m for Berbatov, if you can't agree to that much then you shouldn't be here because it takes some form of presumption to even begin the argument (stupid as that may be).

I also see that Spurs have the option of making Berbatov's contract run to 2012 (did I read that it already does run to 2012?). 2012 also happened to be year that Robbie Keane's contract was to end. So let's say that both players were under similar contract. I apologize if any of this info is incorrect, please correct me.

Over the past two seasons, Berbatov has a scoring record equal to or better than Keane in the prem, and a much better assist record. Combined with the fact that most spurs fans (or any football fans for that matter) will admit Berbatov is the better player (slightly younger and far taller as well), you must admit that Keane would run any club looking to buy him less than Berbatov.

Now factor in the idea that the suitors for these two players are the current premier league and champions league winners for Berbatov, and well... Liverpool for Keane, and you can't fault Levy for seeing United as a having massive amounts of money to pay for the player they want.

Wordy post, yes (sorry), but on the assumption that these widely touted 30m figures for Berbatov are correct, it does make some degree of sense to me that about 20m would be the correlating figure demanded for Keane.
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Listen, this entire forum is filled to the brim with presumptuous discussions. We know next to nothing aside from what we see on the surface.

Here is what I see: figures touted just about everywhere of Levy demanding 30m for Berbatov, if you can't agree to that much then you shouldn't be here because it takes some form of presumption to even begin the argument (stupid as that may be).

I also see that Spurs have the option of making Berbatov's contract run to 2012 (did I read that it already does run to 2012?). 2012 also happened to be year that Robbie Keane's contract was to end. So let's say that both players were under similar contract. I apologize if any of this info is incorrect, please correct me.

Over the past two seasons, Berbatov has a scoring record equal to or better than Keane in the prem, and a much better assist record. Combined with the fact that most spurs fans (or any football fans for that matter) will admit Berbatov is the better player (slightly younger and far taller as well), you must admit that Keane would run any club looking to buy him less than Berbatov.

Now factor in the idea that the suitors for these two players are the current premier league and champions league winners for Berbatov, and well... Liverpool for Keane, and you can't fault Levy for seeing United as a having massive amounts of money to pay for the player they want.

Wordy post, yes (sorry), but on the assumption that these widely touted 30m figures for Berbatov are correct, it does make some degree of sense to me that about 20m would be the correlating figure demanded for Keane.
as I said there is nothing wrong in putting forth your opinion
but in Glasontits case
he spouts shit as if he knows everythin

You obviously havent read the agruments in the berbatov thread where he even claims that We definitely tapped berbatov up and levy has some tapes
and god knows what all he kept blabbering amount
of course to later deny that he ever said that united were guilty

he is a grade a twat, who thinks he knows everythin there is to know about everythin related to spurs ( he might even go as far saying that he knows everythin about the san antonio spurs)

my post was directed more towards him than you
apolog