Fletcher to everton ?

RedNome · 8th July 2008, 21:59

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

Listen to what you just said. Fletch is probably thick in that he doesn't know where P-diddy got his new trainers

I mean Rooney and Rio are really the type of people i would listen to when telling me who was smart

O'Shea seems smartish but i've never read or heard any interviews with Wes.

Apparently he was good at school and also just basing it on Interviews he does seem like he has a clue.

Just like to add that Fletcher actually isn't captain of his country. Barry Ferguson is captain and Steven McManus is vice captain.

If Fletcher was a regular in the United midfield i would have him as captain of scotland in an instant but sinse his playing time is limited it is inapropriate. Also his place in the side has been questioned by a section of the scotland support due to his lack of playing time for United.

Well, that's bollocks imo, his place in the team should be valued only by the performances he gives on the pitch, whether he plays for United or not isn't an issue if he performs for Scotland.

£4 million is a joke for Fletch though, he's far more valuable than that, but if his contract is up when Ralphie has said, we can't expect much more than that unfortunately. Bad business on United's part.

Scholesy · 8th July 2008, 22:06

Fergie wouldnt sell for £4M

Red Dreams · 8th July 2008, 22:06

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

*Bangs head against cyber-brick wall*

Unless of course he buys his way out of his contract for £1.25m.

what...oops...did'nt know he had only a year or two on his contract...but he won't leave unless he is told he is not wanted ralphie.....

gaffs · 8th July 2008, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Red Dreams

but he won't leave unless he is told he is not wanted ralphie.....

And you know that how?

Swerny · 8th July 2008, 22:22

fuck off Moyes

Name Changed · 8th July 2008, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Scholesy

Fergie wouldnt sell for £4M

I don't think Fergie will sell at all.

Name Changed · 8th July 2008, 23:20

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Originally Posted by lem8sh

"The Sun"

That explains everything.

FranklyVulgar · 8th July 2008, 23:52

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Well, that's bollocks imo, his place in the team should be valued only by the performances he gives on the pitch, whether he plays for United or not isn't an issue if he performs for Scotland.

£4 million is a joke for Fletch though, he's far more valuable than that, but if his contract is up when Ralphie has said, we can't expect much more than that unfortunately. Bad business on United's part.

It's not bollox mate, it's the truth. For me it isn't the case but in reality it is just a fact.

people make a point about him not being as good as phil nevillie or Butt but in my opinion times have changed. When they were able to get alot of game for united the standard of the premiership was lesser by some way. The bar has been raised and so players like Fletch struggle to hold down a place, this is only due to the increase in quality in the league. In a direct comparison we can only judge when he is 28 or 29 but there is no doubt in my mind he will have well and truely proven himself to be a very fine player indeed. At united or somewhere else. Butt and Neville haven't done anything outside of United but i could see Fletch being a key player for any team outside the top 4.

holyland red · 9th July 2008, 07:04

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Originally Posted by prateik

Moyes In Bid For Fletch
David Moyes is in talks with Manchester United aimed at tempting them to sell Darren Fletcher. The Everton boss is preparing an official £4million bid for the midfielder, who has come through the ranks at Old Trafford. Moyes wants to kick off his summer spending by signing Fletcher, who played a significant part in United claiming the Premier League crown last season. He sees Scotland international Fletcher as a major player in Everton’s bid to crack the top four after his team narrowly missed out on Champions League football to arch-rivals Liverpool. Fletcher, 24, will be reluctant to move away from the current European and domestic champions. But fellow Scot Moyes believes he can offer him a package to rival the £25,000-a-week he picks up at United.
Pat Sheehan, The Sun

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6613414

4m ... surely not

I think we should tempt Moyes to become our new assistant manager. Then he can enjoy working with Fletcher.

Red-Indian · 9th July 2008, 07:07

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Originally Posted by ralphie88

*Bangs head against cyber-brick wall*

Unless of course he buys his way out of his contract for £1.25m.

Look its not that easy. There's a reason why there have been hardly any Webster cases. Its an acrimonious process with uncertainty on the amount of compensation involved.

Plus, if i'm not wrong, you're required to notify your club of your intention to leave within 15 days of the end of the season or risk being suspended by FIFA for some period.

I doubt if Fletcher would be willing to go down that route and sully his relationship with Manchester United. Who knows when he might need us again? Plus clubs like Everton would be hesitant to encourage this seeing as a precedent of this sort in the PL could screw them more than the big clubs.

All in all, I think there's little chance of a United player leaving on the Webster ruling. All Fletcher has do to if he really fancies leaving is to walk up to Fergie and tell him that. Fergie's let players Nicky Butt and Phil Neville go in the past mainly to let them forward their own careers. I'm sure he'll do the same with Fletcher.

devilish · 9th July 2008, 07:26

I critised Fletcher in the past and while I still believe that he is still not first team material, I have to admit that he had improved a lot in the past few years. Fletcher brings steel and tenacity in the midfield and can cover both flank and central midfield. Not to forget that he is also a homegrown talent, which adds value considering that UEFA and FIFA are doing their outmost to introduce tighter rules about 'foreigners'.

Floyd · 9th July 2008, 07:35

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

It's not bollox mate, it's the truth. For me it isn't the case but in reality it is just a fact.

people make a point about him not being as good as phil nevillie or Butt but in my opinion times have changed. When they were able to get alot of game for united the standard of the premiership was lesser by some way. The bar has been raised and so players like Fletch struggle to hold down a place, this is only due to the increase in quality in the league. In a direct comparison we can only judge when he is 28 or 29 but there is no doubt in my mind he will have well and truely proven himself to be a very fine player indeed. At united or somewhere else. Butt and Neville haven't done anything outside of United but i could see Fletch being a key player for any team outside the top 4.

Phil Neville is the captain of Everton.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th July 2008, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Name Changed

But Barry would be a bit part player at United and would play less of a part than Fletch would.

On what basis did you come up with this untruth?

FranklyVulgar · 9th July 2008, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Floyd

Phil Neville is the captain of Everton.

Captain due to his experience but if you ask everton fans if he is a key player i doubt it.

Although from what i gather from Everton fans some of them are seriously deluded and think Lee Carsley was a good player and Fletch isn't as good as him

dmode · 9th July 2008, 10:13

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Garethw · 9th July 2008, 17:28

Fletcher is a vital squad player and should only be sold if a "crazy bid" is received. In other words more than 15 million pounds.

Sean_RedDevil · 9th July 2008, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Garethw

Fletcher is a vital squad player and should only be sold if a "crazy bid" is received. In other words more than 15 million pounds.

Yep

Kelvin · 9th July 2008, 18:56

why should sell, as long as fletcher is happy to play for us

Smith Cove · 10th July 2008, 03:20

I'd prefer to see him stay. It's a squad game nowadays and he is a very good player to have in the squad. If United decide to let him go I would ask for Yakubu in exchange.

Alex · 10th July 2008, 03:22

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Originally Posted by Smith Cove

I'd prefer to see him stay. It's a squad game nowadays and he is a very good player to have in the squad. If United decide to let him go I would ask for Yakubu in exchange.

You can't really argue with Yakubu's goal record, but I jsut don't think he would do that well at United,

rather get Arteta

Ace · 10th July 2008, 03:25

All arguments aside, Fletcher wouldn't look very good with a shaved head...

Ekeke · 10th July 2008, 03:36

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Originally Posted by Ace

All arguments aside, Fletcher wouldn't look very good with a shaved head...

Fletcho ?

Sarni · 10th July 2008, 05:11

Barry would obviously be ahead of Fletcher in pecking order at United. That's not even debatable.

Barry's biggest faults in the view of most of you are that he keeps Carrick out of England team and will probably play for Liverpool.

JCurr · 10th July 2008, 06:20

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Originally Posted by Sarni

Barry would obviously be ahead of Fletcher in pecking order at United. That's not even debatable.

Barry's biggest faults in the view of most of you are that he keeps Carrick out of England team and will probably play for Liverpool.

Nonsense. Fletcher has much more mobility and shows some creativity on occasion which makes him far superior to the extremely limited, overrated Barry. As for your last statement, the fact that England isn't smart enough to leave Barry out of the squad is far more tragic than Carrick's exclusion. I actually wish England would hire a gaffer who didn't rate Rooney or Hargreaves.

Ekeke · 10th July 2008, 06:38

Fletcher over Barry in a defensive role. Barry over Fletcher in a more attacking role.

JCurr · 10th July 2008, 06:42

Yes. No.

Sarni · 10th July 2008, 07:14

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Originally Posted by JCurr

Nonsense. Fletcher has much more mobility and shows some creativity on occasion which makes him far superior to the extremely limited, overrated Barry. As for your last statement, the fact that England isn't smart enough to leave Barry out of the squad is far more tragic than Carrick's exclusion. I actually wish England would hire a gaffer who didn't rate Rooney or Hargreaves.

I will probably repeat this for the millionth time, but Capello is no mug. The fact that he sees something in Barry and insists on playing him means that he actually has some quality to his game especially as Capello has always been known for recognizing a good defensive midfielder.

Also, Benitez is willing to pay quite a lot for him and as much as I don't rate Benitez's cut-price transfer it has to be said that he has had pretty much all of his expensive buys spot on.

Barry has also captained a Villa side who got a European spot being definitely among their most important players. They played some very good football and he was the one pulling strings most of the time.

He's definitely worth more than Fletcher who never really established himself as a first-team regular at United. Funny thing is that all the criticism on Barry came out the minute Liverpool became interested. It's pretty much the same thing as with Kuyt who in spite of being a decent footballer gets a lot of stick from people on here, or with Sissoko who isn't a bad defensive midfielder at all yet was touted as one by plenty of people. It appears that a player has to do something extra-ordinary, like Torres, to even be considered a decent buy for Liverpool.

Sarni · 10th July 2008, 07:20

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Originally Posted by Garethw

Fletcher is a vital squad player and should only be sold if a "crazy bid" is received. In other words more than 15 million pounds.

That's just crazy. He has one year left on his deal and is definitely not worth more than about £6m in his current position. Had he extended his deal, he'd probably be worth about £3m more. As a back-up player at United you cannot really be rated at £15m+, this is the money that could buy you two midfielders of Fletcher quality and that's also the money that United would not be asking for.

He's a vital squad player, but still he's only a squad player. As long as he's willing to stick with the club and fulfill his current role I'm fine with it, but the minute he decides to leave he will be worth less than £10m. I mean, even if he leaves we will not have much trouble with finding a player that could replace him. Well, we wouldn't really have to replace him in an instant because we have 4 players ahead of him currently.

The Boxer · 10th July 2008, 07:30

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Originally Posted by prateik

Moyes In Bid For Fletch
David Moyes is in talks with Manchester United aimed at tempting them to sell Darren Fletcher. The Everton boss is preparing an official £4million bid for the midfielder, who has come through the ranks at Old Trafford. Moyes wants to kick off his summer spending by signing Fletcher, who played a significant part in United claiming the Premier League crown last season. He sees Scotland international Fletcher as a major player in Everton’s bid to crack the top four after his team narrowly missed out on Champions League football to arch-rivals Liverpool. Fletcher, 24, will be reluctant to move away from the current European and domestic champions. But fellow Scot Moyes believes he can offer him a package to rival the £25,000-a-week he picks up at United.
Pat Sheehan, The Sun

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6613414

4m ... surely not

4m for Fletch? Sell!

8th July 2008, 22:06	#122 (permalink)
Scholesy biggest idiotic gay in the village Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lets all laugh at Terry Posts: 3,620	Fergie wouldnt sell for £4M

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Swerny Poster originally known MS MSP Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,527	fuck off Moyes

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devilish Nationality: Italian-English, Maltese Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cnut's home Posts: 17,917	I critised Fletcher in the past and while I still believe that he is still not first team material, I have to admit that he had improved a lot in the past few years. Fletcher brings steel and tenacity in the midfield and can cover both flank and central midfield. Not to forget that he is also a homegrown talent, which adds value considering that UEFA and FIFA are doing their outmost to introduce tighter rules about 'foreigners'.

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dmode Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: vega Posts: 2,494	Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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Garethw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England; The home of James Bond, Fish and chips and Chavs! Posts: 2,079	Fletcher is a vital squad player and should only be sold if a "crazy bid" is received. In other words more than 15 million pounds.

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Kelvin First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,977	why should sell, as long as fletcher is happy to play for us

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Smith Cove Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 819	I'd prefer to see him stay. It's a squad game nowadays and he is a very good player to have in the squad. If United decide to let him go I would ask for Yakubu in exchange.

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Ace Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Da Silva Fever Posts: 1,714	All arguments aside, Fletcher wouldn't look very good with a shaved head...

10th July 2008, 05:11	#143 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krasnik, Poland Posts: 11,044	Barry would obviously be ahead of Fletcher in pecking order at United. That's not even debatable. Barry's biggest faults in the view of most of you are that he keeps Carrick out of England team and will probably play for Liverpool.

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Ekeke McFuckwit Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,694	Fletcher over Barry in a defensive role. Barry over Fletcher in a more attacking role.

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JCurr Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: the desolate land of football that is the United States... feckin wankers galore. Posts: 736	Yes. No.