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Old 2nd August 2008, 13:35   #81 (permalink)
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It should be pointed out at this point that Wenger has spent negative money over recent years and put a fairly decent title challenge in last season despite he and his squad's obvious failings. Can't see Benitez ever pulling out signings like Adebayor or Toure. It's always Dossena or Voronin.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 13:39   #82 (permalink)
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So, if United had a similar squad of players that Liverpool had back in 2004, & finished 30, 17 & 15 points behind the 3 clubs above them. & with Chelsea's financial resources. You'd be expecting your club to be mounting a serious title challenge by now ?

Yeah right.
I'd expect United to be at least pushing for title.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 14:08   #83 (permalink)
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So if Fergie asks for £25 million for Berbatov, will he be told he'll have to sell first in order to raise the funds ?.

Its a rhetorical question btw, because we both know the answer will be no.


Then i could just use your logic and state that we would use the prize money from the double we've just won, or any other form of revenue picked up over the course of the season.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:10   #84 (permalink)
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Now apparently Martin O'Neill has admitted that the Barry deal may still be on.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:13   #85 (permalink)
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Now apparently Martin O'Neill has admitted that the Barry deal may still be on.
What did he say?
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:15   #86 (permalink)
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Barry's Reds move still on
Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has conceded that Gareth Barry could still sign for Liverpool this summer.

Barry had been expected to remain at Villa Park for the new season after a set deadline for his propsed transfer to Anfield was not met.

However, after holding talks with the England international and his agent, O'Neill has conceded that Liverpool have up until the end of the current transfer window to secure Barry's signature.

He said on the club's official website: "We had a meeting last Monday with Gareth and his agent at which we all agreed we would have a 5pm deadline on Wednesday and if Liverpool had not proved they had the wherewithal to proceed with the transfer deal then we would all leave that aside and go on with it.

"I was hoping that would be the case and this was not a matter of Liverpool missing the deadline by 15 minutes, as seems to have been reported.
Disappointed

"Liverpool first showed their interest in signing Gareth Barry almost four months ago, so this is not a case of missing a deadline by 15 minutes. That's simply not true.

"The following morning we were very upbeat on the strength of what had happened on Wednesday evening. We were very buoyant and optimistic that everything could come back to normal again.

"That wasn't to be though. On Thursday there was a meeting between Gareth's agent, myself and the player. They still felt that even though the deadline had passed they still felt Liverpool were going to come in and do the deal.

"Obviously I was disappointed to hear that. Gareth's head is a bit all over the place at the moment and they asked for some more time.

"So I've listened to what they've said and I'll go with it - reluctantly but I'll go with it. There will be no deadline and Liverpool have all the time in the world now to sign Gareth Barry. They've got up to the normal window, which is the 31st of this month.

Ball is Reds' court

"So it's really up to them, Gareth and his agent to sort it out. I've decided this is the only way forward for us really.

"I have a football club to run and I really do want people who want to play for us.

"If Liverpool at the end of it all do not come up with the money, that's no-one else's fault but their own.

"I'd be delighted if that was the case and Gareth stayed. But I would doubt that very much. The ball is very much in their court."


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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:20   #87 (permalink)
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Interesting to see what makes Barry and his agent so sure that Liverpool would buy him
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:20   #88 (permalink)
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"If Liverpool at the end of it all do not come up with the money, that's no-one else's fault but their own.
simple isnt it .. pay the amount or forget barry .. liverpool will find a way to drag this on
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:49   #89 (permalink)
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They will probably end up having to pay 20+ mil for him
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Old 2nd August 2008, 19:20   #90 (permalink)
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This is one saga that I just want to end. Gareth Barry will be a Liverpool player by the end of the transfer window. It is inevitable.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 22:55   #91 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Barry and his agent were fine with the agreement that if Liverpool didn't make an acceptable offer by 5pm Wednesday, Barry would stay at Villa and yet when Liverpool didn't meet the deadline, Barry and his agent say he still wants to go to Liverpool anyway. They should never have agreed to it in the first place. It was bad enough what Barry said about O'Neil in the NOTW. He has just made his relationship with him even worse
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Old 3rd August 2008, 16:00   #92 (permalink)
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MoN sounded sad when he said "there is no deadline anymore , the player has made it clear he wants to go to liverpool so there is no deadline ........... other than the usual deadline"

rafael will bid 10m and will be rejected .. the whole shit will start all over again
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Old 4th August 2008, 05:45   #93 (permalink)
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Why Wenger ?. Why not Mouriniho ?. After all, he inherited a much better squad than Rafa, yet spent a lot more money, & here we are 4 years later, much closer to them points wise, & in terms of quality.
I know you are all worked up trying to defend the "ever improving' Benitez but just relax for a bit dude.
I was having an argument with a gunners fan in another forum and therefore wanted the stats. So can you help me out with that?
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Old 4th August 2008, 06:01   #94 (permalink)
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Maybe he thinks Arsenal and Liverpool will get into a bidding war, surely Barry would go to either, and probably choose the Emirates or Anfield given the choice
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Old 4th August 2008, 09:40   #95 (permalink)
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All this "Liverpool have improved every season since benithez joined" stuff is merely creative accounting.

Last season United started the season with virtually no strikers (saha injured, Rooney injured first game) and then Ronaldo got suspended for 3 games at Pompey. We dropped 7 points from the first 9 and yet still won the league.

If Liverpool were numerically closer to us last season (even though they went from 3rd to 4th in the league) then it was due to United's lower points tally, not any great advancement from the scousers.

I'm happy for them to believe otherwise though.
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Old 4th August 2008, 11:51   #96 (permalink)
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Wenger will go for Alonso

and probably develop him into twice the player Barry is
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Wenger will go for Alonso

and probably develop him into twice the player Barry is
i agree, barry is way over rated because he is english. he would cost 5 or 6 million if he was from the continent. alonso is a much better player.
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Old 4th August 2008, 12:20   #98 (permalink)
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and probably develop him into twice the player Barry is
I would say that is the current status.
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Old 9th August 2008, 09:01   #99 (permalink)
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Rafa Benitez is on a collision course with Liverpool's owners that threatens to rip the club apart.

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Old 9th August 2008, 09:17   #100 (permalink)
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according to reports in todays papers The Yanks have told him who we trust that they do not have the money for Barry
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Old 9th August 2008, 09:26   #101 (permalink)
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Benitez' veiled comments really are a disgrace. Was he schooled in the same tapping up as Real Madrid?
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LFC really are a shower of shite. Nothing would please me more than to see those Yanks completely tear that club apart.
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Old 9th August 2008, 10:42   #103 (permalink)
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i agree, barry is way over rated because he is english. he would cost 5 or 6 million if he was from the continent. alonso is a much better player.
Big time. Alonso is a fantastic midfielder and in my opinion Liverpool's best midfielder. I hope they sell him and get Gareth Barry because it would weaken them. Alonso is a far better player.
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