Gary Cahill

cw1984 · 16th January 2012, 22:47

Those doubting the move will come to realise he's a very good player over the next 12 months.

He'll grow at Chelsea.

LLMU · 17th January 2012, 02:35

He is definitely a better option to David Luiz at the moment.

Ole's_toe_poke · 17th January 2012, 03:26

I just don't rate him. Not as a potential world class defender, the kind that Chelsea need.

GingerPrince11 · 5th February 2012, 18:28

Could he have been sent off for the foul on Welbeck (the one which wasnt called) for being the last man?

adexkola · 5th February 2012, 18:28

Very good signing, made some interceptions and headers for them

Mick1991 · 5th February 2012, 18:31

I know Hernandez wasn't his man for the third, but that's the second time this season he must be ruing the little fella's movement.

Solius · 29th February 2012, 21:35

ArmchairCritic · 29th February 2012, 21:52

Nice one Solius.

Don't rate him at all.

PJ · 29th February 2012, 22:25

Was a revelation according to radio 5 live

Leg-End · 29th February 2012, 22:27

ArmchairCritic · 29th February 2012, 22:32

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Originally Posted by PJ

Was a revelation according to radio 5 live

That is why England don't win anything, we just don't get Football.

ArmchairCritic · 29th February 2012, 22:37

I had my reservations about Cahill when Bolton were shipping goals at the start of the season, I put that down to his head being turned but in his games for Chelsea and England I haven't been impressed.

Annihilate Now! · 29th February 2012, 22:42

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Originally Posted by PJ

Was a revelation according to radio 5 live

What game were they watching?!

Liam147 · 29th February 2012, 22:43

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Originally Posted by ArmchairCritic

I had my reservations about Cahill when Bolton were shipping goals at the start of the season, I put that down to his head being turned but in his games for Chelsea and England I haven't been impressed.

I agree, I don't know what the fuss is about. Obviously Chelsea have seen something for them to let him hold them to ransom (reportedly), but I think he's no more than a decent defender. Him and Luiz as a defensive partnership is awful. They were a shambles against us, and it was the main reason I expected us to beat them comfortably, somehow they managed to get three before us though.

If the next England manager plans on having him as a first choice centre back (particularly once the likes of Terry and Rio have biked it) they can forget about any serious ambition to win a major tournament.

GingerPrince11 · 29th February 2012, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Solius

you forgot the scumbag hat!

Antisocial · 29th February 2012, 22:46

They should make him England captain; make things interesting on the Chelsea training ground.

ArmchairCritic · 29th February 2012, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Liam147

I agree, I don't know what the fuss is about. Obviously Chelsea have seen something for them to let him hold them to ransom (reportedly), but I think he's no more than a decent defender. Him and Luiz as a defensive partnership is awful. They were a shambles against us, and it was the main reason I expected us to beat them comfortably, somehow they managed to get three before us though.

If the next England manager plans on having him as a first choice centre back (particularly once the likes of Terry and Rio have biked it) they can forget about any serious ambition to win a major tournament.

He's Matthew Upton 2.0 England wise at the moment.

RDCR07 · 29th February 2012, 22:50

I don't know why Lescott did not start. I mean he isn't 10 times better than Cahill but at least he is a little more solid.

adexkola · 29th February 2012, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Jopub

Honestly

Wanderers boss Owen Coyle saying: "The word derisory doesn't even cover it. When I make an offer for a player, I'd like to think in the right ball park, but this wasn't even close." England international centre-back Cahill reportedly has a release fee of £17 million written into his Bolton contract, which is due to expire at the end of next season. He fits the profile of the imposing, aerially-dominant defender that Wenger is searching for in order to shore up a defence that was alarmingly leaky last season, surrendering 43 goals in the league.
And Wenger insists he is willing to pay more than £6 million to secure the 25-year-old's signature. "It's completely wrong and nothing to do with how much we are ready to pay," he said.
"I believe the negotiation is between two parties and you only have to sell if you can agree on the price. In this case the information is below what has been spoken about.
"You can believe me, or you can believe [Bolton chairman Phil Gartside]. I just tell you that it's not right, it's not the truth. And if Gartside says I am lying, I'm ready to confront him."

Fking embarrassing.

Wenger's completely lost his marbles - the man's a joke

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Originally Posted by Jopub

Why on earth go through all this bollocks ?

Arsenal / Wenger know his worth as do bolton - just agree to more or less split it - thats what happens in 90% of all transfers

Fksakes it's just so Wenger / SO Wenger . If Utd City or Chelsea fancied Cahill they stroll in and hijack the deal in ten fking minutes

Wenger you tight cvnt, pay the fking money and get him - Christ sakes

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Originally Posted by alastair

I'm on the side of offering £10m up top, with another £3m in add-ons. That would just about do it as far as I can tell. £6m is a complete joke, principally because that offer would probably not even give them the money up front.

Back in 2010.

Walrus · 29th February 2012, 23:04

He's not THAT bad. Not world class but not yet peaked as a defender, and better imo than most of Arsenals other CBs (Vermaelen being the exception).

In todays market he is easily worth £10m.

Annihilate Now! · 29th February 2012, 23:06

Not sure I agree with that... I would honestly take Laurent Koscielny over Cahill...

ArmchairCritic · 29th February 2012, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Walrus

He's not THAT bad. Not world class but not yet peaked as a defender, and better imo than most of Arsenals other CBs (Vermaelen being the exception).

In todays market he is easily worth £10m.

He's 26, I was going to say he could still get better but he's got a year or two to before he peaks and then his pace will start to desert him. As the more experienced man tonight he was bad, didn't help Smalling at all.

PJ · 29th February 2012, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Annihilate Now!

What game were they watching?!

Could very possibly displace Rio or Terry...

Annihilate Now! · 29th February 2012, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ

Could very possibly displace Rio or Terry...

Lescott and Jagielka surely have to be ahead of him. Both are far superior defenders.

Sean_RedDevil · 29th February 2012, 23:34

Jagielka

Annihilate Now! · 29th February 2012, 23:38

Suerly the only humerous thing there would be if you actually thought Cahill was a better defender then Jagielka... ??

Stobzilla · 29th February 2012, 23:40

Townsend clearly hasn't seen Cahill telling Smalling to track Huntelaar, apparently Smalling was compelled to track a run Cahill already had covered.

PJ · 29th February 2012, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ

Could very possibly displace Rio or Terry...

Just to clarify, that's another 5 live gem.

Annihilate Now! · 29th February 2012, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Stobzilla

Townsend clearly hasn't seen Cahill telling Smalling to track Huntelaar, apparently Smalling was compelled to track a run Cahill already had covered.

This shows it perfectly.

duffer · 29th February 2012, 23:53

Robben has made better players than Cahill look silly before.

Decotron · 1st March 2012, 00:45

Ive had this argument with a friend of mine over him and Shawcross. Im of the opinion that Shawcross is better. Im even more convinced since his transfer.

RDCR07 · 1st March 2012, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annihilate Now!

This shows it perfectly.

That was a huge mistake that ended up costing the game.

cesc's_mullet · 1st March 2012, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus

He's not THAT bad. Not world class but not yet peaked as a defender, and better imo than most of Arsenals other CBs (Vermaelen being the exception).

In todays market he is easily worth £10m.

Koscielny and Vermaelen are both much better players than Cahill.

antohan · 1st March 2012, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDCR07

That was a huge mistake that ended up costing the game.

It's really shocking that neither (indicating or not, Smalling should have known better) foresaw that Robben was ALWAYS going to cut to the left to set himself up to shoot.

Same with Baines later.

I guess they are just used to lefties usually playing on the left so have a tendency to defend assuming the opposite from someone arriving from the right but fucking hell the coin should have dropped by then, let alone the third goal...

Didn't Pearce or anyone else in the England staff pick up on that and drill it in advance?

RDCR07 · 1st March 2012, 02:11

I think Smalling would have stayed at the other end if Cahill did not tell him to track Klaas. I don't get why Cahill would not keep up with Robben. I mean why suddenly would he leave Robben and track Klaas? It wasn't even that big a jerk or change in direction from Robben.

cesc's_mullet · 1st March 2012, 02:19

Seemed like he was more worried about Robben slipping the ball through diagonally to Huntellaar. Poor vision/awareness on Cahill's part since it just opened up a ton of room for Robben to move into, as no one else was covering that newly created space.

Commadus · 1st March 2012, 02:21

Cahill is positionally weak. like most defenders he reacts and then uses his physical attributes to cover his deficiency in reading the game and ergo positioning. If he wanted to guide Robben onto Robben right side he should have been shifting earlier to his own right thus creating a channel for Robben to run into which he would then close. however he backed off and once robben shifted to his favoured left side Cahill was flat footed.

Randall Flagg · 19th May 2012, 23:04

Big man part 2. Except he Seems like a nice chap. Thought he was amazing for Chelsea tonight.

To think arse opted not to sign him last summer.

Adam-Utd · 19th May 2012, 23:29

from bin to win in 6 months. Not bad at all!

Certainly got out of bolton before it was too late.

Antisocial · 19th May 2012, 23:34

Boot Terry out of there and give his spot to Cahill - should be job one for the next Chelsea manager.

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16th January 2012, 22:47	#481 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,022	Those doubting the move will come to realise he's a very good player over the next 12 months. He'll grow at Chelsea.

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LLMU Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: currently unknown Posts: 1,395	He is definitely a better option to David Luiz at the moment.

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Ole's_toe_poke First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18,935	I just don't rate him. Not as a potential world class defender, the kind that Chelsea need.

5th February 2012, 18:28	#484 (permalink)
GingerPrince11 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Leicester City! Posts: 4,066	Could he have been sent off for the foul on Welbeck (the one which wasnt called) for being the last man?

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adexkola First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. Onwards and upwards. "Take me home, United Road." Posts: 9,810	Very good signing, made some interceptions and headers for them

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Mick1991 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,071	I know Hernandez wasn't his man for the third, but that's the second time this season he must be ruing the little fella's movement.

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ArmchairCritic First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. Posts: 6,390	Nice one Solius. Don't rate him at all.

29th February 2012, 22:25	#489 (permalink)
PJ Mrs Robinson's bit on the side Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Playing guess who with Samuel L Jackson Posts: 15,110	Was a revelation according to radio 5 live

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29th February 2012, 22:37	#492 (permalink)
ArmchairCritic First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. Posts: 6,390	I had my reservations about Cahill when Bolton were shipping goals at the start of the season, I put that down to his head being turned but in his games for Chelsea and England I haven't been impressed.

29th February 2012, 22:46	#496 (permalink)
Antisocial Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,261	They should make him England captain; make things interesting on the Chelsea training ground.

29th February 2012, 22:50	#498 (permalink)
RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Special One on the Great One: "I don't call him Alex or Sir or Mister. I call him Boss!" Posts: 11,328	I don't know why Lescott did not start. I mean he isn't 10 times better than Cahill but at least he is a little more solid.

29th February 2012, 23:04	#500 (permalink)
Walrus Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,195	He's not THAT bad. Not world class but not yet peaked as a defender, and better imo than most of Arsenals other CBs (Vermaelen being the exception). In todays market he is easily worth £10m.

29th February 2012, 23:06	#501 (permalink)
Annihilate Now! First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Argh Posts: 7,371	Not sure I agree with that... I would honestly take Laurent Koscielny over Cahill...

29th February 2012, 23:34	#505 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	Jagielka

29th February 2012, 23:38	#506 (permalink)
Annihilate Now! First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Argh Posts: 7,371	Suerly the only humerous thing there would be if you actually thought Cahill was a better defender then Jagielka... ??

29th February 2012, 23:40	#507 (permalink)
Stobzilla Official Team Perv Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Ham (SM League) Posts: 7,194	Townsend clearly hasn't seen Cahill telling Smalling to track Huntelaar, apparently Smalling was compelled to track a run Cahill already had covered.

29th February 2012, 23:53	#510 (permalink)
duffer First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chelsea fan. Posts: 7,905	Robben has made better players than Cahill look silly before.

1st March 2012, 00:45	#511 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 20,030	Ive had this argument with a friend of mine over him and Shawcross. Im of the opinion that Shawcross is better. Im even more convinced since his transfer.

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RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Special One on the Great One: "I don't call him Alex or Sir or Mister. I call him Boss!" Posts: 11,328	I think Smalling would have stayed at the other end if Cahill did not tell him to track Klaas. I don't get why Cahill would not keep up with Robben. I mean why suddenly would he leave Robben and track Klaas? It wasn't even that big a jerk or change in direction from Robben.

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cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ONE SONG! we've only got one song... we've only got one song Posts: 18,475	Seemed like he was more worried about Robben slipping the ball through diagonally to Huntellaar. Poor vision/awareness on Cahill's part since it just opened up a ton of room for Robben to move into, as no one else was covering that newly created space.

1st March 2012, 02:21	#517 (permalink)
Commadus First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,797	Cahill is positionally weak. like most defenders he reacts and then uses his physical attributes to cover his deficiency in reading the game and ergo positioning. If he wanted to guide Robben onto Robben right side he should have been shifting earlier to his own right thus creating a channel for Robben to run into which he would then close. however he backed off and once robben shifted to his favoured left side Cahill was flat footed.

19th May 2012, 23:04	#518 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,697	Big man part 2. Except he Seems like a nice chap. Thought he was amazing for Chelsea tonight. To think arse opted not to sign him last summer.

19th May 2012, 23:29	#519 (permalink)
Adam-Utd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,722	from bin to win in 6 months. Not bad at all! Certainly got out of bolton before it was too late.

19th May 2012, 23:34	#520 (permalink)
Antisocial Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,261	Boot Terry out of there and give his spot to Cahill - should be job one for the next Chelsea manager.