Gary Cahill

Cina · 1st December 2011, 13:51

If us and Arsenal went for him, surely he'd pick Arsenal, he'd be guaranteed games there, not here.

Him and (a fit) Vermaelen would be a good partnership.

Don't see any point bringing him here. We have other priorities

KingMinger22 · 8th December 2011, 05:15

We should sign him siply because he represents ''value'' and with our debt it is clear that this is a more important variable to us than the quality of the player or those our opposition are signing.

Ole's_toe_poke · 8th December 2011, 05:17

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Originally Posted by KingMinger22

We should sign him siply because he represents ''value'' and with our debt it is clear that this is a more important variable to us than the quality of the player or those our opposition are signing.

Dude, such a hilarious post I almost puked with amusement.

SharkyMcShark · 8th December 2011, 07:49

We don't need another centre back, and if we did it wouldn't be Cahill

peterstorey · 8th December 2011, 08:17

You need to sort the CM.

cw1984 · 9th December 2011, 08:26

With Vidic out for the season and Rio unreliable we'd be going the rest of the season with just Smalling, Evans and Jones. Add the fact 1 of that lot will be required at full back for the perma-crocked Brazilians and suddenly we're very thin on the ground.

I wouldn't be surpsied to see us sign another defender in Jan. Maybe not Cahill but given that he'll be going on the cheap would you really be surprised?

MUFCgal · 9th December 2011, 10:22

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Originally Posted by cw1984

With Vidic out for the season and Rio unreliable we'd be going the rest of the season with just Smalling, Evans and Jones. Add the fact 1 of that lot will be required at full back for the perma-crocked Brazilians and suddenly we're very thin on the ground.

I wouldn't be surpsied to see us sign another defender in Jan. Maybe not Cahill but given that he'll be going on the cheap would you really be surprised?

No I wouldnt be surprised at all.

marjen · 9th December 2011, 10:23

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

You need to sort the CM.

This. And another full back, please.

marjen · 9th December 2011, 10:24

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

You need to sort the CM.

What do you think of Cleverley though, have you watched him anything at all this year? Genuinely curious.

peterstorey · 9th December 2011, 10:47

I liked Cleverley when he was at Watford a couple of years back. He looked good in some of the earlier games (but then so did Anderson) I'd need to see him tested a bit more to say if he's made up into a topclass player or not.

marjen · 9th December 2011, 10:49

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Originally Posted by peterstorey

I liked Cleverley when he was at Watford a couple of years back. He looked good in some of the earlier games (but then so did Anderson) I'd need to see him tested a bit more to say if he's made up into a topclass player or not.

Cleverley at Watford was more of an AM though, wasn't he? You've got a point RE the Anderson comparison.

I think a lot of weight is put on his shoulders. What I do think, is he offers our midfield something we otherwise lack. Ball-carrier, good close control, assured on the ball, one-two's, goal threat, and energy.

EDIT: Actually, he's a bit of an Arsenal-type of midfielder, isn't he?

kouroux · 9th December 2011, 10:53

Overrated CB, do not want !!!!

RedSky At Night · 9th December 2011, 11:01

No, we don't need another defender.

CM is where the real attention is required.

Decotron · 9th December 2011, 11:23

Always said there aint alot of difference between him and Shawcross. Not good enough for us imo...

Snow · 9th December 2011, 12:12

No need for Gary Cahill. He doesn't bring quality or experience that we don't have.

Name Changed · 9th December 2011, 12:19

First of all, if we were on the lookout for a centre back, surely we would look for someone better than Cahill. Plus, with him being English, his price is naturally double what is actual value is.

Secondly, we'd be better off buying a midfielder who could hang onto and pass the ball. That would take pressure off our defence.

Ole's_toe_poke · 9th December 2011, 12:20

Such a predictable bump.

He's wank. Do not need.

KM · 9th December 2011, 14:14

One of the most over-rated English player right now. I would rather give Smalling an extended run at center back.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th December 2011, 19:28

Cahill is not overrated at all.

Red Dreams · 9th December 2011, 19:37

he would be good for one of the clubs below us. Smalling and Jones can do the job.

lysglimt · 9th December 2011, 19:56

What we need is a good back who can either take over the right-back or at least cover that position in addition to working as cover for Evra.

If we get that - we still have Evans, Ferdinand, Jones and Smalling who can play in the center of defense. It's not as good as Vidic - but it should be good enough

Sean_RedDevil · 13th December 2011, 15:47

If Vidic is really out for 10-12 months and Jones plays in midfield for the next months then we should buy Cahill.

RDCR07 · 13th December 2011, 22:10

I really wouldn't mind this fellow coming to United especially, since he will on his last 6 months of his contract.

And Vidic is still only 30 by the way not 31.

Defender swoop: Manchester United eye move for Bolton's Gary Cahill | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

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Manchester United are on standby to snap up a January sales bargain and land England star Gary Cahill from Bolton.

The Reds are looking at options to fill the big gap created by the loss of captain Nemanja Vidic who ruptured his kneeligament in Basel last week.

United are resigned to being without the influential Serbian defender for the rest of the season but are also steeling themselves for a potential 12-month absence as they await news on when the 31-year-old will undergo surgery.

Sir Alex Ferguson was not initially looking to add to a five-strong senior central defensive core but Vidic’s injury woes could change his plans.

The Reds have been playing £16m summer capture Phil Jones in midfield and it is a role that is winning the 19-year-old admirers.

Injuries to the Brazilian da Silva twins has meant Chris Smalling is also continuing at right back and he too has been impressing in the position.

With Smalling and Jones set to be employed elsewhere long term, it now leaves just Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans at the heart of United’s back four. It has forced Fergie into a re-think and Cahill is emerging as a potential transfer window steal.

The 25-year-old Wanderers centre-half is out of contract at the Reebok in the summer and has been reluctant to sign a new deal.

Arsenal were keen to sign him in the summer but Arsene Wenger baulked at the asking price, believed to have been £25m.

The Gunners boss says he is no longer interested in Cahill but Chelsea and Spurs are being linked with a mid-season swoop.

Bolton are currently rooted to the foot of the Premier League and Cahill, who is set to land a place in Fabio Capello’s Euro 2012 squad in the summer, wouldn’t want to go to the Ukraine and Poland contemplating possible life in the Championship next term.

RDCR07 · 13th December 2011, 22:13

The thing is if three to four teams like United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs all come in for him, then where will be decide to go?

Lance Uppercut · 13th December 2011, 22:16

I am hopeful that we won't.

Rood · 14th December 2011, 00:06

I cant believe Im saying this but I would actually be quite happy to hold of him now - can fill in for Vidic and allow Jones to grow into the ultimate midfielder.

Grinner · 14th December 2011, 00:45

Gartside is bloody lucky that so many teams need a bit of defensive cover.

KingMinger22 · 14th December 2011, 08:39

He represents 'value' though!

Sultan · 14th December 2011, 08:39

Let the coaches work out what's needed at end of season and go for long term replacements. Unless of course there is someone out there who we've been tracking, and becomes available in January. I reckon it would be a pointless exercise with about 16/17 games left come January. We have enough players to carry us through to the end of season.

Robbie Boy · 14th December 2011, 08:57

He has had a pretty woeful season so far, Bolton have been utter dross, but on a personal level - Cahill has been very poor.

In saying that, he has been a consistent performer for the past 3 seasons. I have always felt that he is a tad overrated, and I can honestly say that I would rather we didn't sign him. Good player, but I feel he would suit a team of Spurs ilk as opposed to ours.

Interval Level · 14th December 2011, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Let the coaches work out what's needed at end of season and go for long term replacements. Unless of course there is someone out there who we've been tracking, and becomes available in January. I reckon it would be a pointless exercise with about 16/17 games left come January. We have enough players to carry us through to the end of season.

Oh please. We don't want sense here. You have to make a quick jibe using the world value and then laugh at your genius.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 14th December 2011, 12:58

I hope we are interested in him. He is a good payer who can get even better under the guidance of a manager like SAF.

RedRonaldo · 14th December 2011, 13:24

We still have Rio, Smalling, Jones and Evans for center back role while Vidic is out. We need a midfielder.

Sean_RedDevil · 14th December 2011, 13:57

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Originally Posted by RedRonaldo

We still have Rio, Smalling, Jones and Evans for center back role while Vidic is out. We need a midfielder.

And how many times have Smalling and Jones played as center-back this season?

We need both at other positions this season.

ha_rooney · 14th December 2011, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

And how many times have Smalling and Jones played as center-back this season?

We need both at other positions this season.

If we get a proper midfielder in then Jones could play RB & Smalling CB. It's the lack of options at RB and CM that have forced these two to play elsewhere, if we get a real CM in January then there is enough cover for CB for this season.

Cahill's a decent player but he's no better than Evans in my opinion.

MUFCgal · 14th December 2011, 14:10

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Originally Posted by ha_rooney

If we get a proper midfielder in then Jones could play RB & Smalling CB. It's the lack of options at RB and CM that have forced these two to play elsewhere, if we get a real CM in January then there is enough cover for CB for this season.

Cahill's a decent player but he's no better than Evans in my opinion.

Yes, I agree. I think if we get a good CM then Jones and Smalling can be kept in defence where their natural positions are.

But if we do go into the market for a bargain defensive signing to compensate for losing Vidic, why not Alex?

apotheosis · 14th December 2011, 14:47

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Originally Posted by ha_rooney

If we get a proper midfielder in then Jones could play RB & Smalling CB. It's the lack of options at RB and CM that have forced these two to play elsewhere, if we get a real CM in January then there is enough cover for CB for this season.

Cahill's a decent player but he's no better than Evans in my opinion.

He is quicker than Evans and more physical too, personally i like Cahill. I think he is a solid, reliable defender who is pretty good on the ball. I would say at this point he is obviously ahead of Evans because he has much greater experience.

I would agree with the Chief on this one, i think once he moves to a bigger club he will get even better. Many doubted he was good enough for England, and imo he has proved those doubters wrong with some very assured perfromances, i think he would do similarly well with a move to a bigger club too.

Sarni · 14th December 2011, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

And how many times have Smalling and Jones played as center-back this season?

We need both at other positions this season.

Why would we sign a defender so we could keep playing our other defenders out of position, as opposed to an actual midfielder and a full back?

Robbie Boy · 14th December 2011, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Sarni

Why would we sign a defender so we could keep playing our other defenders out of position, as opposed to an actual midfielder and a full back?

Because, that would make sense.

Sarni · 14th December 2011, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Robbie Boy

Because, that would make sense.

No, it really wouldn't. It'd make as much as sense as starting with four centre halves at three different positions. Which it'd actually be.

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1st December 2011, 13:51	#161 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,959	If us and Arsenal went for him, surely he'd pick Arsenal, he'd be guaranteed games there, not here. Him and (a fit) Vermaelen would be a good partnership. Don't see any point bringing him here. We have other priorities

8th December 2011, 05:15	#162 (permalink)
KingMinger22 City >>> United Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banbury Posts: 2,884	We should sign him siply because he represents ''value'' and with our debt it is clear that this is a more important variable to us than the quality of the player or those our opposition are signing.

8th December 2011, 07:49	#164 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,590	We don't need another centre back, and if we did it wouldn't be Cahill

8th December 2011, 08:17	#165 (permalink)
peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,004	You need to sort the CM.

9th December 2011, 08:26	#166 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,022	With Vidic out for the season and Rio unreliable we'd be going the rest of the season with just Smalling, Evans and Jones. Add the fact 1 of that lot will be required at full back for the perma-crocked Brazilians and suddenly we're very thin on the ground. I wouldn't be surpsied to see us sign another defender in Jan. Maybe not Cahill but given that he'll be going on the cheap would you really be surprised?

9th December 2011, 10:47	#170 (permalink)
peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,004	I liked Cleverley when he was at Watford a couple of years back. He looked good in some of the earlier games (but then so did Anderson) I'd need to see him tested a bit more to say if he's made up into a topclass player or not.

9th December 2011, 10:53	#172 (permalink)
kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 25,570	Overrated CB, do not want !!!!

9th December 2011, 11:01	#173 (permalink)
RedSky At Night RTA waiting to happen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nottingham Forest (in Soccer Manager League) Posts: 16,586	No, we don't need another defender. CM is where the real attention is required.

9th December 2011, 11:23	#174 (permalink)
Decotron First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: I am not a man......................I am Cantona Posts: 20,030	Always said there aint alot of difference between him and Shawcross. Not good enough for us imo...

9th December 2011, 12:12	#175 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 12,319	No need for Gary Cahill. He doesn't bring quality or experience that we don't have.

9th December 2011, 12:19	#176 (permalink)
Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 21,014	First of all, if we were on the lookout for a centre back, surely we would look for someone better than Cahill. Plus, with him being English, his price is naturally double what is actual value is. Secondly, we'd be better off buying a midfielder who could hang onto and pass the ball. That would take pressure off our defence.

9th December 2011, 12:20	#177 (permalink)
Ole's_toe_poke First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18,935	Such a predictable bump. He's wank. Do not need.

9th December 2011, 14:14	#178 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	One of the most over-rated English player right now. I would rather give Smalling an extended run at center back.

9th December 2011, 19:28	#179 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 39,444	Cahill is not overrated at all.

9th December 2011, 19:37	#180 (permalink)
Red Dreams First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thunder Road to Old Trafford Posts: 23,454	he would be good for one of the clubs below us. Smalling and Jones can do the job.

9th December 2011, 19:56	#181 (permalink)
lysglimt Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,693	What we need is a good back who can either take over the right-back or at least cover that position in addition to working as cover for Evra. If we get that - we still have Evans, Ferdinand, Jones and Smalling who can play in the center of defense. It's not as good as Vidic - but it should be good enough

13th December 2011, 15:47	#182 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	If Vidic is really out for 10-12 months and Jones plays in midfield for the next months then we should buy Cahill.

13th December 2011, 22:13	#184 (permalink)
RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Special One on the Great One: "I don't call him Alex or Sir or Mister. I call him Boss!" Posts: 11,328	The thing is if three to four teams like United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs all come in for him, then where will be decide to go?

13th December 2011, 22:16	#185 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	I am hopeful that we won't.

14th December 2011, 00:06	#186 (permalink)
Rood nostradamus like gloater Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Republik Of Mancunia Posts: 13,011	I cant believe Im saying this but I would actually be quite happy to hold of him now - can fill in for Vidic and allow Jones to grow into the ultimate midfielder.

14th December 2011, 00:45	#187 (permalink)
Grinner fat gutted, hairy shouldered stinky arse Join Date: May 2003 Location: Gumbroski draws mud.... Posts: 21,569	Gartside is bloody lucky that so many teams need a bit of defensive cover.

14th December 2011, 08:39	#188 (permalink)
KingMinger22 City >>> United Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Banbury Posts: 2,884	He represents 'value' though!

14th December 2011, 08:39	#189 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 31,452	Let the coaches work out what's needed at end of season and go for long term replacements. Unless of course there is someone out there who we've been tracking, and becomes available in January. I reckon it would be a pointless exercise with about 16/17 games left come January. We have enough players to carry us through to the end of season.

14th December 2011, 08:57	#190 (permalink)
Robbie Boy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: No player in World football could score against Stoke on a wet Wednesday night at the Brittania. Posts: 1,911	He has had a pretty woeful season so far, Bolton have been utter dross, but on a personal level - Cahill has been very poor. In saying that, he has been a consistent performer for the past 3 seasons. I have always felt that he is a tad overrated, and I can honestly say that I would rather we didn't sign him. Good player, but I feel he would suit a team of Spurs ilk as opposed to ours.

14th December 2011, 12:58	#192 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 39,444	I hope we are interested in him. He is a good payer who can get even better under the guidance of a manager like SAF.

14th December 2011, 13:24	#193 (permalink)
RedRonaldo First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,305	We still have Rio, Smalling, Jones and Evans for center back role while Vidic is out. We need a midfielder.