Gonzalo Higuain

Anderson Searl

Yeah i'm a big fan of the lads ability, it'll be interesting to see as he develops into a complete player what path his career takes.

Tumbling-Dice

All I am saying is whenever I've seen him play he has rarely impressed me and I must have seen him play a dozen times, mainly in Europe and big La Liga games. He's obviously better than I thought due to the reaction from many posters here. I'd take on board what Decotron and Brwned said for one, I wouldn't pay much attention to FranklyVulgar cos he's a fucking idiot. Now I've said on here before I don't profess to watching every Spanish and Italian match week in week out, I'd rather watch English football be it Premiership, Championship or League 1 - it's a tougher game, not as much fannying about see. Would Higuain cut it in English football ? He might, none of us know for sure, Diego Forlan struggled though before going on to impress in the Spanish league.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Spot on. I'm amazed some people think him overrated.

RedThaiDevils#7

Forlan just didn't have enough chances and was basically judge too much for his substitute role. Actually I though Forland doing REALLLY well when he was given a run in the side, I'm pretty sure that the 04/05 season when he started getting regular games he started to show us what he was about. But with the return of Ole and the purchase of Saha didn't help him. I actually rated him a very good striker with lots of good attributes before he left to Villareal. It's just that he's style didn't fit us and Fergie thought Saha was a better alternative ( His longshots were probably the best in all the strikers we had during 2000 onward. )
Back to the topic, we fancied Torres and he was playing in Laliga and wasn't scoring as much as Higuain but look at him now. Probably one of the most deadliest strikers in world football. The problem with Higuain is that he does really good in both RW and as a Striker. Ramos tried him in many positions and he did really well, him and Robben were probably the best players for RM that season.
He might or might now succeed but I rate him a high chance to succeed if he moves to the right club in PL, especially if he moved to us.

Tumbling-Dice

I'm starting to think I haven't seen enough of him to have written him off earlier.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Fair enough.

FranklyVulgar

typical narrow minded spastic.

Slag off anyone for rating him and then back track like a little bitch and you have the audacity to call me a fucking idiot....

A word of advice from one fucking idiot to another, don't get involved in threads about players you clearly have no idea about. So for you that means anyone outside of the Premiership, Championship or league 1.

Brwned

Don't be a dick Frank.

FranklyVulgar

Ok brwned.

Higuain needs to get called up for Argentina. He'll remain important to Madrid because unlike the big boys (kaka, Ronaldo) he'll work for the team. Yeah, that's right good old fashioned grit and determination, closing down and all that, the mark of a true great. One of the reasons why i think Higuain would be a success in any league because he has that work rate and determination but also has a lot of quality. Sometimes his quality doesnt stand out but his effort and endeavor usually do and for a kid at 21 i dont see how after the season he just had anyone could doubt his credentials.

Boss

His most famous goal to date from last season. Madrid had to win to have any realistic hope whatsoever of retaining LaLiga and Pepe had been sent off for a moment of sheer madness. Getafe missed the panalty resulting from that and as time was coming to an end the lad comes up with that to take all 3 points.

He has carried Madrid for the last 2 seasons and has match winner written all over him. It's sad because I don't think he will get a real look in next season with the return of the Galtico policy. I just hope his amazing talent does not go to waste and he makes the World Cup sqaud in the process.

Brwned

That goal was on the same night Arshavin scored 4 against Liverpool, I remember flicking between the two matches and they were both bloody excellent.

ALX8725

I've only seen him a handful of times, but he's been exceptional every time I've watched him play. I would rather have him than Berbatov if I had to pick between the two, all things considered

Boss

Same here man, it was a sweet match especially when Pepe went 'loco.' I actually felt a bit sorry for him because he brushed the guy and he went down like he had been shot, it was genuinely very harsh on him which still does not explain his reaction.

On the Arsenal game, that was truly amazing, only soured by the fact Liverpool scored in the last minute from some shocking defending by Arsenal that was prevalent in pretty much all of Liverpool's goals.

Here is Higuains Goals and Assists from last season, some would even suggets he looks world class:



My only issue is that he seems to score most of his goals at home however one must remember he is only 21 years old, he still has time to truly fulfill his potential if Madrid let him. Some even said the same about Fernando Torres in his first season for Liverpool 2007/08, I think that was truly put to bed last year.

Tumbling-Dice

That's a cracking finish but can you see English defences being so forgiving ?

The bloke's had a free reign at goal from getting the ball 45 yards out.

Is he left footed or was that his weaker foot because that was a great finish.

Boss

I think it's because you have one defender trying to track Marcello who is making the overlapping run, similar to what happened to Nani against Chelsea. Then you have the defender he just beat being too slow to get back but you have to remember this was in stoppage time, defenders can be forgiven for being tired.

Also I really don't think they expected he would pull out that left footed rocket even though they should have. Another underrated fact about Higuain is he is a amazing dribbler.

Tumbling-Dice

Yep, the right back looks to have his hands full there stuck in two minds. Shambolic defending though nevertheless even though it was late in the game.

The lad looks to have two good feet on him though. From the other clip you posted he looks to be a predominantly right footed player making that left foot finish even more impressive.

Devil_forever

I hate when people say things like that.

1.They're two very different type of players and neither could do the other's role, so any comparison is stupid.

2.Why must there be a preference?

AttackingFlair

He's right footed.

jojojo

Just an aside on the Maradona/Argentina thing. Yesterday morning Real Madrid arrived back at the airport just as Maradona and his squad were meeting up for their game. Maradona, mindful of his duties as national team coach, made a beeline - straight for Ronaldo. After they'd chatted for a while he then went looking for Guti. Higuain? Not a word apparently.

On club transfers, it would take a big bid to interest Madrid and a CL club with regular playing time to interest Higuain. It's not obvious how Pellegrini will use him, and he hasn't gelled with Benzema yet, but if they do find a way it could be devestating. Otherwise I still think he'll still get plenty of playing time, even if not as a first choice starter - whether Maradona will notice is anybody's guess.

Oh, and an aside on the Maradona aside. Agent Cristiano came back from the US tour with flu - so that's the Madrid, Spain, France, Portuguese and Argentinian squad contaminated now.

Lailiani

I don't know anything about Higuain's personality but I guess it doesn't feel right to be dropped despite having a great year last season. I for one would think that they don't give me the respect and esteem I would deserve.

ALX8725

really? you "hate" when people say that? why are you so hot and bothered by that?

1. it was hypothetical, note the "if", I find his style of playing more appealing than the other

2. because this is a footy forum and we talk about things like that here on the Caf

kouroux

I really think that Benzema should be benched in order to let this buy be a starter for Madrid.He's a superior player

FranklyVulgar

No sure kouroux but one thing for certain is he doesnt deserve to be benched. He gives them effort and endevour as well as quality, things that a front 3 or 4 or Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema and Raul can't offer which will be the reason they win nothing. Barca have great players but they all work hard for the team and that is the difference.

(i assume you meant "this boy" and not "this buy" otherwise i have no idea what buy you are talking about )

kouroux

I can't think of an area where Benzema is better besides strength, only time will tell but I have been more impressed with Higuain that's for sure.Seems to be more complete

FranklyVulgar

I don't really understand the concept of complete...

Does it mean Higuain is good with both feet, can head and dribble, is big and strong?

i'd say Benzema has the same qualities, the strengh, the ability on both feet and the power and height to be a good header of the ball.

It boils down to form, Benzema can make a big success of his time at Madrid but Higuain right now looks in better condition to do well for the team.

It'll take time for Madrid, watching them against DC United they were awful in the first half, Ronaldo (he was ill) was awful, Kaka was poor and only when they brought on Robben did they start ripping the piss.

I think Robben is underrated. Not just based on his one half against DC United, for large parts of last season he was sensational for Madrid.

kouroux

Yes, I cannot wait to see Benzema play for R.Madrid just out of curiosity.
I must also admit that my hatred for him may alter my judgment but I stand by it

FranklyVulgar

I think Madrid will struggle and win nothing this year.

TOo many lazy players, they apply no pressure and have not looked particularly fluid or able to create space. Only Kaka of the percieved starting 11 can beat a man and that is not enough.

Why barca are better is dribblers, Iniesta, Messi, Eto'o, Henry, Xavi, Alves.... were all taking a man on which created space for others. Madrid only had Robben and Higuain last term. Marcelo can dribble too to be fair.

kouroux

Yes but I think the most important thing is that Barcelona are already a team and R.Madrid need to build one.
They got rid of Juande Ramos whereas he triggered a amazing run of winning matches for them, that's what they're gonna need this season to beat Barca (among other things) and I can't see them do it.I really hope Madrid fails miserably

FranklyVulgar

absolutely, i said it all along when people were wanking over the Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema stuff.

I mean if you just look at it objectively Barcelona are still a better side in everyway. 100m euro players or not.

Messi > Ronaldo
Iniesta > Kaka
Ibrahimovic > Benzema
Xavi > Anyone else you care to mention...

Simply better.

buckooo1978

be as objective as ya like but iniesta isnt better than kaka

i also dont think ibrahimovic is a good signing for barcelona - he will slow them down and make them less effective in front of goal - i'm actually amazed by that deal

put it this way - even on this transfer forum when we were in the market for a striker if you'd asked 100 poster who they wanted i'd bet at least 80 would have said benzema

messi and ronaldo are both in a league of their own really but there isnt much between them

i actually fancy madrid to win it simply because ibrahimovic for etoo was a silly transfer and madrid have cassilas who probably gets them 12 points a season with his saves

FranklyVulgar

Iniesta is......

Ibrahimovic doesnt get wanked over because he plays in Italy and isnt young enough. I mean the way people wanked over Benzema was rediculous, considering most of them had barely seen him play. Probably the same people who think Ibrahimovic is shite despite him being brilliant for Ajax, Juve then Inter...

Personally i'm amazed so many people think IBrahimovic is such a big mistake. He'll score plenty and create plenty and add a physical and ariel dimension that was the only thing lacking from them in an attacking sense last season.

He'll be made to play Guardiolas way, the same way he was made to work harder under Mourinho. I'd trust Guardiolas decision making. After all he made history in his first season.

I personally think United signing Micheal Owen is a mistake but i'll wait and see before predicting that he'll be the sole reason for Uniteds failure....

Obviously he wont be, i just see him as a bit pointless though.

jojojo

That's good news then - they can present Barcelona with the cups now and save everybody a lot of time.

FranklyVulgar

I was merely pointing out that despite the money madrid have thrown around, Barcelona remain stronger on paper for anyone objective.

buckooo1978

but guardiola and the barcelona way is all about fluidity - its all about pace, passing and movement - the spanish team is exactly the same with the pace of torres and villa up front

barcelona were awesome last season, broke scoring records in la liga and taught us a lesson in the final and last season they relied on the passing and intelligent play of iniesta and xavi in front of toure in midfield and the pace up front of messi, henry and eto'o

ibrahimovic simply isnt as pacey or as mobile as eto'o and while he's great on you tube he's more a scorer of great goals rather than a lethal goal scorer - i'd concede that he's better in the air than eto'o but if this is the reason they brought him in i think laporta is mad

i think benzema or villa would have been much much better buys for barca and funnily enough i think benzema looks a really successor to eto'o inn style - he would have fitted into the barca side fantastically

ibra is an excellent player with great skill but i just dont see it working for barca they way it did with eto'o - i think given the terms of the deal mourinho couldnt believe his luck

time will tell tho........

FranklyVulgar

I don't think he is, Eto'o is deadly, a good dribbler but his passing is pretty average. His movement is up there no doubt and he was very important to Barcelona no doubt.

Benzema is still very much one for the future, he as it all in his locker but La Liga and Serie A are still on another planet to Ligue 1.

Time will tell, for me Ibra will be a success because he has been a success everywhere he has played. Only now he is mature and more dedicated and focused than ever.

Decotron

Are you for real mate?

Ronaldo
Benzema
Marcelo
Ramos
Kaka
Higuain

I seen all of them beat a man with ease Im sure theres more aswell.

FranklyVulgar

i said Kaka, Robben, Higuain and Marcelo.

Only Kaka from the percieved starting 11.

Gio

Iniesta and Kaka is a good comparison. Iniesta has out-performed him by some margin over the last two seasons. Kaka nevertheless is a class act who, like Iniesta, has delivered the goods when it mattered in the Champions League. Unless the Brazilian ups his game however, it'll be the Spaniard who wins the attacking midfielder plaudits in La Liga again this season.

FranklyVulgar

indeed, i know the pale one slipped under the radar in recent years but he's come into the light (which goes through him like it does a sheet of thin transparent plastic) and is recognised as one of the worlds best.

Kaka needs no defending, he was the best, is still one of the best but his level since winning the Ballon d'Or has dropped and Iniesta has been nothing short of sensational.

RedThaiDevils#7

If Kaka needs no defending then one of Benzema, Raul or Higuain has to be dropped. Doubt they'd afford that.