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Old 10th May 2008, 17:34   #41 (permalink)
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If the price is right then I wouldnt mind having another RVN in our team. He would give us a different approach if needed.
exactly. i understand people's fear of playing through a CF all the time and not having a lot of interchanging.. but the option is important to have. when tevez and rooney aren't working, bringing on huntelaar could really change a game.
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yes hunterlaar!!!!, guy is class and will score goals.
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exactly. i understand people's fear of playing through a CF all the time and not having a lot of interchanging.. but the option is important to have. when tevez and rooney aren't working, bringing on huntelaar could really change a game.
He speaks the truth,

Theres been countless times this season where were desperate for a goal and really the playing ugly method of hoofing balls up just doesnt work due to our midget strikers. Having a Huntelaar CF would really do us a favour in such situations...and it would bring us more goals via headers too.
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Old 10th May 2008, 18:37   #44 (permalink)
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brining in huntelaar would not cause us to change the way we play...great footballers learn to adapt their style of play to fit in with what ever system so i dont think well have problem with him
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Old 10th May 2008, 18:47   #45 (permalink)
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Rooney
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Manucho
Saha/Berba/Huntelaar/Benzema/Ashton - just one of those will be here next season

+ Campbell - if we bring him back.
- Welbeck - will be out on loan I reckon.
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Old 10th May 2008, 19:17   #46 (permalink)
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klass is a class player...sign him up

he's clinical and imagine how many goals he'l score with the amount of chances we create
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Old 10th May 2008, 19:35   #47 (permalink)
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exactly. i understand people's fear of playing through a CF all the time and not having a lot of interchanging.. but the option is important to have. when tevez and rooney aren't working, bringing on huntelaar could really change a game.
I agree with this.
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Old 10th May 2008, 19:37   #48 (permalink)
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brining in huntelaar would not cause us to change the way we play...great footballers learn to adapt their style of play to fit in with what ever system so i dont think well have problem with him
Then he isn't a great player.

Why was Saha brought in, instead of Ruud? Because Saha brought more to the overall team. And while he scored less goals, him playing led to other players scoring more goals and us being a little bit less predictable. Fast forward a few years and now we have the best player in the world, rotating into striking positions - with Tevez and Rooney and out-scoring the best strikers in the world.

Why would you mess with that?

We already have a taller striker with a nose for goals to come off the bench. His name is Manucho and we signed him not even 6 months ago.
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Old 10th May 2008, 20:04   #49 (permalink)
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Then he isn't a great player.

Why was Saha brought in, instead of Ruud? Because Saha brought more to the overall team. And while he scored less goals, him playing led to other players scoring more goals and us being a little bit less predictable. Fast forward a few years and now we have the best player in the world, rotating into striking positions - with Tevez and Rooney and out-scoring the best strikers in the world.

Why would you mess with that?

We already have a taller striker with a nose for goals to come off the bench. His name is Manucho and we signed him not even 6 months ago.




Bullshit bullshit bullshit!! How easy do we forget , while Saha played and Ruud was on the bench .....Ruud came in as substitute and scored some very important goals!! Ppl seem to forget that Ruud scored 21 goals in half a season!!!!
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Old 10th May 2008, 20:18   #50 (permalink)
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How are his assist stats? Crap I'd imagine.
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Old 10th May 2008, 20:19   #51 (permalink)
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Bullshit bullshit bullshit!! How easy do we forget , while Saha played and Ruud was on the bench .....Ruud came in as substitute and scored some very important goals!! Ppl seem to forget that Ruud scored 21 goals in half a season!!!!
And how does that prove that other players werent given more freedom to perform in his absence?

Ronaldo is our Ruud.

I'd rather see the best of Rooney, Ronaldo and to an extent, Tevez than have Huntelaar as our goal scorer next season and dissappointing campaigns from the others.

Having a "different" option is all well and good, but we have the Huntelaar option already in Manucho.
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Old 10th May 2008, 20:38   #52 (permalink)
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We should try everything within our means not to buy him.
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Old 10th May 2008, 22:34   #53 (permalink)
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Did he even play 3 games for us? I only remember chelsea and sunderland.
5 goals in 17 league games (6 starts, 11 coming off the bench).
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Old 10th May 2008, 22:39   #54 (permalink)
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by Alex Livie, 10 May 2008

Klaas Jan Huntelaar’s agent has claimed the Ajax striker would jump at the chance to join Manchester United.

Huntelaar is one of Europe’s most coveted attacking talents, as his exploits for Ajax have seen him likened to fellow Holland international Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Ajax are keen to retain the striker’s services and Huntelaar has waxed lyrical about working under Marco van Basten next term, but an offer from Old Trafford could prove too tempting to pass up.

"Klaas could make the step up to a top-level club in Europe this summer,” Huntelaar’s agent Arnold Oosterveer told the Daily Express. “He likes English football and watches The Premier League.

”Of course he would love to join United. He wants to make the next step.”

Sir Alex Ferguson has not yet finalised his summer targets, but he could face competition for Huntelaar.

”A player who scores 33 goals in one season is interesting for every top club,” added Oosterveer. “Real Madrid are looking at him, as are a number of other European clubs.”

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If we were ever interested in Huntelaar, this is the time to sign him up!

Top level club? that has to hurt unfortunately its true for Ajax!
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Old 11th May 2008, 02:43   #55 (permalink)
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Having a "different" option is all well and good, but we have the Huntelaar option already in Manucho.
I think Huntelaar is significantly better than Manucho.
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Old 11th May 2008, 04:07   #56 (permalink)
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I think we should sign him. Just look at his second name - HUNTELAAR. If you change the last two letters, AR, to ID, then his name is HUNTELAID. Then if you re-arrange them, you end up with HAL UNITED, which I can only assume stands for He's Always Loved UNITED.

Sign him up now FFS.
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Old 11th May 2008, 04:25   #57 (permalink)
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I've not been impressed with him this season. Heard some talk about him last summer and so I kept some tabs on Ajax on a more "watching" status and sorry but the lad isn't up to my mark.

The thing is loads of "great" strikers score plenty of goals in Holland, look at our friend at Liverpool he scored plenty. You have to pay attention to his form, his positioning and what he does for the squad.

Yes he can score goals but sadly I was not impressed with his ability to bring others in and does nothing without perfect service. His dribbling I haven't seen to be anything special and without support I haven't seen him offer anything.

I wouldn't be disappointed with us signing him but I wouldn't be excited like a few names we've been mentioned with. At least he'd be about half the price a few of the others would be that we're supposed to be interested in.

I'd agree that Saha is probably on his way out and that we'll loan out Welbeck for the experience he needs to take it to the next level and Campbell will probably stay on to ride the bench a bit and to play in the Mickey Mouse Cup.

To be honest the newest player I'm interested in is Agbonlahor. We haven't been linked with him but I think he has exactly what we need...
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Old 11th May 2008, 05:36   #58 (permalink)
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Then he isn't a great player.

Why was Saha brought in, instead of Ruud? Because Saha brought more to the overall team. And while he scored less goals, him playing led to other players scoring more goals and us being a little bit less predictable. Fast forward a few years and now we have the best player in the world, rotating into striking positions - with Tevez and Rooney and out-scoring the best strikers in the world.

Why would you mess with that?

We already have a taller striker with a nose for goals to come off the bench. His name is Manucho and we signed him not even 6 months ago.
Saha was brought in because Ruud needed rest. That was the reason why we have brought Saha in the first place ie to act as quality cover for the forward line and give a different approach to our game.
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To be honest the newest player I'm interested in is Agbonlahor. We haven't been linked with him but I think he has exactly what we need...
Nah, we need someone who is capable to score.
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Old 11th May 2008, 07:18   #60 (permalink)
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Theres been countless times this season where were desperate for a goal and really the playing ugly method of hoofing balls up just doesnt work due to our midget strikers. Having a Huntelaar CF would really do us a favour in such situations...and it would bring us more goals via headers too.
It really depends what we're after. Do we want competition for Rooney and Tevez, where the three strikers basically interchange and would all end up starting and playing roughly the same amount of matches? Or do we want cover for Rooney and Tevez, someone who can come on and change things up or can come in when we need to rest them?

Huntelaar is one of the best options out there if we want to go the 'cover' route. Perhaps even the best. If we want true competition however, that's when the likes of Benzema and Berbatov come out on top.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:47   #61 (permalink)
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Huntelaar latest from Setanta http://www.setantasports.com/en/Spor...ritain-locale/ - Future not in his hands...

Klaas Jan Huntelaar has admitted Ajax will have the final say on whether he moves on this summer.

The free-scoring forward has won many admirers with his exploits in the Dutch league and the likes of Arsenal, Manchester United and Real Madrid hold an interest in the Holland international.

Huntelaar is preparing for Euro 2008 with the Oranje, but admits he is unsure where his future lies.

“I am playing in the Dutch squad and the rest is not in my hands,” Huntelaar said on Setanta Sports News.

”It is difficult because when you play good other teams want you, but I have a contract for two more years at Ajax and Ajax is involved.

"If they don’t like it I don’t do it, so we will have to play first and see what happens.”
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Old 21st May 2008, 10:01   #62 (permalink)
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It really depends what we're after. Do we want competition for Rooney and Tevez, where the three strikers basically interchange and would all end up starting and playing roughly the same amount of matches? Or do we want cover for Rooney and Tevez, someone who can come on and change things up or can come in when we need to rest them?

Huntelaar is one of the best options out there if we want to go the 'cover' route. Perhaps even the best. If we want true competition however, that's when the likes of Benzema and Berbatov come out on top.
Huntelaar can act both as a cover and as a competition. He gives a different dimension to our side.
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Huntelaar can act both as a cover and as a competition. He gives a different dimension to our side.
Yes, he's probably right in the middle of those two roles. He would want to be more than just cover, but he wouldn't be quite at the level of Rooney and Tevez.

If we can't sign Benzema or Berbatov (I believe we will sign the latter), Huntelaar and Eto'o are the next two on the list for me. Eto'o is obviously better, but comes with a lot more baggage than Huntelaar, so I'm probably leaning a little towards the Hunter.
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I'm yet to be convinced. He's obviously got a knack for scoring goals, no one can dispute that. However, I'm not sure how he'd fit into the way we play at this moment in time. He doesn't look too mobile and that's what we seem to be basing out attack on now. Speed, power and movement.

Those qualities don't spring to mind when you think of Huntelaar.
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Huntelaar wouldn't so much help us play the way we do. The idea would be that he would be taking advantage of the way we play. There are some days where we just dominate but can't put the ball in the back of the net because, Ronaldo aside, no-one is a natural finisher. Those are the games where Hunter would be perfect, he'd come on and would be making the right runs and taking the chances that the other players create. Against the top teams he would also give us the target man that we sometimes might need (no more Ronaldo playing upfront by himself).

You wouldn't really want him to be a regular starter throughout most of the season because our football wouldn't be as free-flowing, but he would be a good option if we use him correctly.
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Yes, he's probably right in the middle of those two roles. He would want to be more than just cover, but he wouldn't be quite at the level of Rooney and Tevez.

If we can't sign Benzema or Berbatov (I believe we will sign the latter), Huntelaar and Eto'o are the next two on the list for me. Eto'o is obviously better, but comes with a lot more baggage than Huntelaar, so I'm probably leaning a little towards the Hunter.
He is a different kind of player then Rooney and Tevez.

In my opinion we tend to give too much rating to dribbling, pace and work rate. Ok its nice to have players with those characteristics but there again they are not the only great players in the world. Take AC Milan. They have players like Kaka and Pirlo whose technique and work rate is second to no one. Stating that it was Inzaghi who had scored the most important goals for the team which include 2 goals in the CL final.

A valid point that we keep on forgetting is that players develop through time. Andy Cole is a classic example. At Newcastle he was little more then a goal poacher, a player who added very little to the creativity spark of the team. Things changed with us and he ended up a much more complete player. Same thing can be said to Ole.

From all the renowned names we had been linked with, I think that Huntelaar is the cheapest and most feasible option. Unlike Benzema he wouldnt cost us 30m and I have a feeling that he wouldnt complain too much about our rotation policy.
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Huntelaar wouldn't so much help us play the way we do. The idea would be that he would be taking advantage of the way we play. There are some days where we just dominate but can't put the ball in the back of the net because, Ronaldo aside, no-one is a natural finisher. Those are the games where Hunter would be perfect, he'd come on and would be making the right runs and taking the chances that the other players create. Against the top teams he would also give us the target man that we sometimes might need (no more Ronaldo playing upfront by himself).

You wouldn't really want him to be a regular starter throughout most of the season because our football wouldn't be as free-flowing, but he would be a good option if we use him correctly.
Our game rely in pushing the opponents in their own half to them rip them apart with skill, workrate and technique. We tend to work with the mentality that we can afford to lose 4 chances out of 8 because we will always create those 8 chances. Stating that, while it had served us well throughout the years, I think that there were times when it had played against us. Now Im not saying that we should change the system, I mean only a muppet would suggest such thing after reaching the CL final and won the EPL title. On the other hand its always good to have a plan b and Huntelaar can provide us with that.
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This is just Huntelaar's agent drumming up some interest by name dropping Utd and Madrid. Im fascinated to see who Fergie signs this summer.
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