Joseph Anthony Barton

Vidic_In_Moscow · 22nd January 2012, 23:16

Agree phelans shorts.

MacMUFC · 23rd January 2012, 00:00

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Originally Posted by phelans shorts

HE has stated he had an issue which he has recovered from, with the help of such an organisation, what harm can that do other than help other people in similar situations to him sort themselves out?

You're clearly the bigger cunt in this.

Fuck off. Shouldnt you be writing up how much you cant stand our Danny Welbeck or something? I doubt you'd be as sympathetic with Barton if it was you or one of your mates on the receiving end of his knock-out blows. Excuse me for not having time to care for people like Joey Barton.

Ole'sbodyguard · 23rd January 2012, 00:32

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Originally Posted by evra

Hope he falls off the wagon.

WTF

If he falls off the wagon its likely to lead to problems for him AND OTHERS.

Seriously, what's the fecking point?

Eyepopper · 17th May 2012, 08:44

So do all the lads that were suggesting we should sign him last summer, considering he'd walk into our MF (ahem) still think we should go after him if QPR look to get rid of him then?

Seeing as he's basically misunderstood and a reformed character?

Hal9000 · 17th May 2012, 08:46

He's a good player and probably would do well in a top four side. He has plenty of qualities, unfortunately those qualities are negated by him being a complete head case.

Ash_G · 17th May 2012, 08:49

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Originally Posted by Hal9000

He's a good player and probably would do well in a top four side. He has plenty of qualities, unfortunately those qualities are negated by him being a complete head case.

Really? I think sane or not he's a decent footballer but nothing more then that. Can't see how he'd get in to a top 4 team as anything other then a squad player.

SharkyMcShark · 17th May 2012, 09:15

I'm with Ash G on that.

He's been poor through the middle this season and his best Newcastle form in 10/11 was on the right providing ammo for Carroll.

SilentWitness · 17th May 2012, 09:24

I don't understand how people keep making him out to be an important player or how he can even be named as a captain of a club when you know he's going to be involved in at least one piece of controversy a season that's likely to result in a fairly hefty ban. Plus recently he's not been as good as he was earlier in his career. On the decline and a championship/relegation club is his level now.

mufcwarm92 · 17th May 2012, 09:25

He's an average player who had a really decent season for Newcastle once. He's struggled at a team fighting relegation, he's absolutely miles away from being good enough for a top 4 club.

peterstorey · 17th May 2012, 10:29

I'm fed up to the back teeth with Barton all I want to know is how long that suspension's going to be.

twitchchris · 17th May 2012, 13:12

It's common for people like Barton, whom I'm convinced is a sociopath*, to drink too much. It goes with their poor impulse control.

After they get in trouble enough times, and see that they may really be punished by losing their freedom and/or livelihood, they get treatment, and make the knowledge public. It's another tool for them to use to get what they want.

12 step programs are a perfect place for them to hide as well: the people there who are genuinely trying to get better have to believe everyone can improve, regardless of the evidence. Barton can get people to swear by his good character in AA by learning the language they use, and speaking it at meetings.

I've met guys who brag about raping underage women, who even laugh about it, and others who lie as easily as others breathe committing hundreds of thousands of dollars of fraud against everyone including their aging parents, but because they go to meetings, and speak the language, AA people think these people decent, and

Paraphrasing an AA member I used to know: "I used to be a thief. I got sober. It made me a better thief. You can't change what you are. You can just stop pouring booze on top of it."

Barton is a dangerous, violent, manipulative man, with no conscience. Being sober won't take that away.

*Revising my previous statements in this thread about him being a Psychopath. Similar, but different: "Both psychopaths and sociopaths are prone to violence and acts of deceit, however they may behave differently. Sociopaths often explode into violence at a very slight provocation, while psychopaths are very calculating and may take years to plan a crime. Because of this, sociopaths are more often caught than psychopaths."

Sewelly The Geordie · 21st May 2012, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Sewelly The Geordie

That's what I mean, he has nothing in terms of attributes to make him suitable to playing there.

Poor short passing game and a ridiculous penchant for the hollywood pass (which is funny considering his Twitter comments about England's inability to produce players with that skillset), isn't able to keep hold of the ball in possession, not a great tackler and not the greatest physical attributes to make up for these other deficiencies.

Like I said...

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Barton made more inaccurate passes, 490, in the opposition half than any other top-division player last season.

Cheesy · 21st May 2012, 10:45

Sewelly, you showed me the light. I've watched Barton more closely recently though, and agree with a lot of what you say about him now. Glorified thug.

Solius · 21st May 2012, 10:48

This thread title has always irked me.

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22nd January 2012, 23:16	#601 (permalink)
Vidic_In_Moscow First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,448	Agree phelans shorts.

17th May 2012, 08:44	#604 (permalink)
Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, think I'm heading home! Posts: 50,190	So do all the lads that were suggesting we should sign him last summer, considering he'd walk into our MF (ahem) still think we should go after him if QPR look to get rid of him then? Seeing as he's basically misunderstood and a reformed character?

17th May 2012, 08:46	#605 (permalink)
Hal9000 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,669	He's a good player and probably would do well in a top four side. He has plenty of qualities, unfortunately those qualities are negated by him being a complete head case.

17th May 2012, 09:15	#607 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,588	I'm with Ash G on that. He's been poor through the middle this season and his best Newcastle form in 10/11 was on the right providing ammo for Carroll.

17th May 2012, 09:24	#608 (permalink)
SilentWitness Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland. Posts: 1,466	I don't understand how people keep making him out to be an important player or how he can even be named as a captain of a club when you know he's going to be involved in at least one piece of controversy a season that's likely to result in a fairly hefty ban. Plus recently he's not been as good as he was earlier in his career. On the decline and a championship/relegation club is his level now.

17th May 2012, 09:25	#609 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 'Michael Owen was known as the Baby Faced Assassin, but Rooney was more like the Assassin Faced Baby' Posts: 2,806	He's an average player who had a really decent season for Newcastle once. He's struggled at a team fighting relegation, he's absolutely miles away from being good enough for a top 4 club.

17th May 2012, 10:29	#610 (permalink)
peterstorey Bitter Arse hole Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Happy those, who can remain at Highbury! Posts: 26,002	I'm fed up to the back teeth with Barton all I want to know is how long that suspension's going to be.

17th May 2012, 13:12	#611 (permalink)
twitchchris Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 516	It's common for people like Barton, whom I'm convinced is a sociopath, to drink too much. It goes with their poor impulse control. After they get in trouble enough times, and see that they may really be punished by losing their freedom and/or livelihood, they get treatment, and make the knowledge public. It's another tool for them to use to get what they want. 12 step programs are a perfect place for them to hide as well: the people there who are genuinely trying to get better have to believe everyone can improve, regardless of the evidence. Barton can get people to swear by his good character in AA by learning the language they use, and speaking it at meetings. I've met guys who brag about raping underage women, who even laugh about it, and others who lie as easily as others breathe committing hundreds of thousands of dollars of fraud against everyone including their aging parents, but because they go to meetings, and speak the language, AA people think these people decent, and Paraphrasing an AA member I used to know: "I used to be a thief. I got sober. It made me a better thief. You can't change what you are. You can just stop pouring booze on top of it." Barton is a dangerous, violent, manipulative man, with no conscience. Being sober won't take that away. Revising my previous statements in this thread about him being a Psychopath. Similar, but different: "Both psychopaths and sociopaths are prone to violence and acts of deceit, however they may behave differently. Sociopaths often explode into violence at a very slight provocation, while psychopaths are very calculating and may take years to plan a crime. Because of this, sociopaths are more often caught than psychopaths."

21st May 2012, 10:45	#613 (permalink)
Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,316	Sewelly, you showed me the light. I've watched Barton more closely recently though, and agree with a lot of what you say about him now. Glorified thug.

21st May 2012, 10:48	#614 (permalink)
Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fucker shits Posts: 40,588	This thread title has always irked me.