Joseph Anthony Barton

Fiskey · 1st August 2011, 18:39

Think he's a good player, and would be alright here. If Fergie decides he needs a stopgap until the Pogba, Morrison, James generation then fair enough.

Siorac · 1st August 2011, 18:39

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Originally Posted by KM

The point is not that. The point is why would he accept being a 5th choice when he could go to another decent club(Villa, Everton) and be first choice for them.

Why did Michael Owen accept the role of fourth striker?

I don't want Barton, I hasten to add.

Brophs · 1st August 2011, 18:39

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Originally Posted by SATA

Saw it in a couple of forums but no stating of source yet, probably wind ups though

But if you lot have a choice of Gibson or Barton, who will you rather have?

It's not really 'going around' then, is it? It was most likely just started by some kids enjoying the school holidays.

Striker10 · 1st August 2011, 18:41

Some people settled for Adams!!! Let's buy adams...Some would settle for Barton!!!! Let's buy Barton. He's better then Gibson. One word comes to mind and that word is Bollocks....it won't happen.

Boss · 1st August 2011, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Barton's a far better player than Gibson.

I don't agree.

How so?

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 18:43

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Originally Posted by KM

FFS This comparison again. Gibson was our 5th choice midfielder, Barton will not come here to be a 5th choice midfielder. This "isn't he better than Gibson" argument used for average-decent midfielders(Adam, Barton) are really annoying as there is no comparison.

Exactly, when did being better than Gibson become the primary criteria when looking for players?

Can you imagine him coming here and playing 20 games a season, being comsistently overlooked for big games and settling for it? Because thats where Gibson is, and theres no way Barton is better than Fletcher or Carrick.

KM · 1st August 2011, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Siorac

Why did Michael Owen accept the role of fourth striker?

I don't want Barton, I hasten to add.

One major difference though. Owen was nowhere near his prime and wasn't coming after arguably his best season. Barton is in his prime and had his best season in the previous one. Also, given the shortage of midfielders he could easily get a crack at Euro 2012.

I reckon he would get great offers from Villa, Everton and Spurs. All good clubs. Owen didn't have that choice, IIRC it was only Hull who was after him.

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Siorac

Why did Michael Owen accept the role of fourth striker?

I don't want Barton, I hasten to add.

Because he's played for massive clubs his entire career and wanted to continue to rather than step down to a smaller club.

He also obviously had faith in his own ability to get into the team as he signed a pay as you play deal.

Ramshock · 1st August 2011, 18:57

What a bunch of cunts in this thread, a thread about Joey fucking Barton going on a free turns into another Darren Gibson is shite thread. In the name of good fuck leave Gibbo alone..wankers!!!

Isnt there a Newcastle supporter on this forum?

Wowi · 1st August 2011, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Eyepopper

Exactly, when did being better than Gibson become the primary criteria when looking for players?

Can you imagine him coming here and playing 20 games a season, being comsistently overlooked for big games and settling for it? Because thats where Gibson is, and theres no way Barton is better than Fletcher or Carrick.

Or rather; theres no way Barton should be higher than 5th choice - which I don't think he would be IF he joined. Anderson, Fletcher (get well soon xx), Carrick and Cleverley would all be ahead of him as I see it. Giggs probably as well. It's tough to say who's the better player of Gibson and Barton. I'm not a big fan of Gibson, but I think he's very underrated by many United supporters simply because we expect every United player to perform exceptionally. Players like Barton (and Adam too) are often praised on here for doing well in smaller teams although many of their performances would not have been praised if they were playing for United. Grass is greener etc.

I'm not saying Gibson is better because I really don't know. In my book they're pretty equal. I'd much rather keep Gibson instead of signing Barton and selling Gibson though. Gibson is younger and can still improve (need I refer to Fletcher?) and he's been at the club for a long time. Although Barton didn't do anything stupid last year from what I remember I still don't trust him and I wouldn't want a 5th/6th choice player to potentially upset the great spirit within our squad.

Ramshock · 1st August 2011, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Wowi

Or rather; theres no way Barton should be higher than 5th choice - which I don't think he would be IF he joined. Anderson, Fletcher (get well soon xx), Carrick and Cleverley would all be ahead of him as I see it. Giggs probably as well. It's tough to say who's the better player of Gibson and Barton. I'm not a big fan of Gibson, but I think he's very underrated by many United supporters simply because we expect every United player to perform exceptionally. Players like Barton (and Adam too) are often praised on here for doing well in smaller teams although many of their performances would not have been praised if they were playing for United. Grass is greener etc.

I'm not saying Gibson is better because I really don't know. In my book they're pretty equal. I'd much rather keep Gibson instead of signing Barton and selling Gibson though. Gibson is younger and can still improve (need I refer to Fletcher?) and he's been at the club for a long time. Although Barton didn't do anything stupid last year from what I remember I still don't trust him and I wouldn't want a 5th/6th choice player to potentially upset the great spirit within our squad.

for fuck sake

alastair · 1st August 2011, 19:02

When you get comments like Gibson is as good as Barton, you wonder whether people actually watch non-United games. But that's besides the point, it's not a Gibson thread.

Barton's done a lot of bad things in his life, but he's never been bad at football. He's a top 8 player - ie, could start for anyone 6-8 but only would be a sub for a 1-5 team. As I say, I'd have no problem with him in the Arsenal squad, he'd be useful to have around, as long as he keeps up the good behaviour that he's shown over the last couple of years.

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 19:04

I agree with that, don't see the issue.

But then, i dont see Gibson as the spawn of Satan.

KM · 1st August 2011, 19:05

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Originally Posted by alastair

When you get comments like Gibson is as good as Barton, you wonder whether people actually watch non-United games. But that's besides the point, it's not a Gibson thread.

Barton's done a lot of bad things in his life, but he's never been bad at football. He's a top 8 player - ie, could start for anyone 6-8 but only would be a sub for a 1-5 team. As I say, I'd have no problem with him in the Arsenal squad, he'd be useful to have around, as long as he keeps up the good behaviour that he's shown over the last couple of years.

Skysports.com understands Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton.

alastair · 1st August 2011, 19:07

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Originally Posted by KM

Skysports.com understands Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton.

I have sky sports news on in front of me and I can't see that. Wouldn't be displeased, as I say.

Xander45 · 1st August 2011, 19:08

Good little player, not gonna set the world alight but is a good set piece taker/passer and obviously gets stuck in. He'd be on less wages and contribute more than Hargreaves did the last couple of seasons so if we did sign him i wouldn't be upset, wouldn't be overly pleased mind.

Can't see it happening either way, but then Fergie does like to throw a surprise our way every now and then and on a free that is value.

Maajid · 1st August 2011, 19:16

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Boss · 1st August 2011, 19:19

Cheers for the exclusive Mad.

Maajid · 1st August 2011, 19:24

Pleasure, fucktard.

Stookie · 1st August 2011, 19:38

I'd take him on a free even though he is a complete twat but to be honest I think a lot of fottballers are complete twats. He'll end up at Villa. If Gibson is given a good run in the team this season I think he coud turn out to be a great player, cannot understand the real dislike for him on here.

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 19:45

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In 2004 Joey Barton famously stubbed out his cigar at then Manchester City youth player Jamie Tandy.

Tandy was subsequently released by the club and late battled alcoholism and depression. In an interivew with the Mirror Tandy revealed:
“When I was in rehab at Sporting Chance part of the therapy helps you to discover where your alcohol addiction comes from,” said Tandy.

“Alcoholism often runs in the family, but there was none of that in my background and, when I looked back at when the drinking took over, it all stemmed back to that f***ing Christmas party.

“At the time Barton hadn’t been in trouble before. People thought it must have been my fault because he didn’t have a reputation back then.

“Well people know the truth now, don’t they? He was fined 60 grand and I kept quiet. In the end it didn’t matter because City decided that I was the one they had to get rid of.”

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PJ · 1st August 2011, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Eyepopper

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We're already taking a chance with an unproven dickhead...

Pogue Mahone · 1st August 2011, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Eyepopper

Exactly, when did being better than Gibson become the primary criteria when looking for players?

Can you imagine him coming here and playing 20 games a season, being comsistently overlooked for big games and settling for it? Because thats where Gibson is, and theres no way Barton is better than Fletcher or Carrick.

Wouldn't have imagined Michael Owen doing that but you've summed up his United career right there.

If Fergie wants rid of gibson - and he obviously does - I don't see the problem with replacing him with a player who is far better, so long as he is willing to follow Owen's lead and accept that reputation doesn't guarantee games when you sign for Manchester United.

Crispy71 · 1st August 2011, 20:12

Plenty of footballers are idiots/dickheads/thick as pig shit and we have dealt with a few at United, but el Joey of Huyton takes it to a new level and despite his reasonable footballing attributes he is not the kind of person I for one would want to be pulling on a United shirt. He is a selfish odious little man with some mental issues who still knocks around with the absolute lowlife dickheads from Huyton Liverpool who are an excuse for pond life and nothing but scum. If people think he is even fit to be considered as a United player I suggest you look at some of the stunts he has pulled through his life and consider that these are just the ones that made the press. I have dealt with the bloke on numerous occasions and although he isn't a bad person per-say, he is always on the edge of trouble and always will be.

Fergie's Man · 1st August 2011, 20:19

I am surprised that some people in here are actually fearful that SAF would bring that cock to OT.

Behave yourselves!!

Randall Flagg · 1st August 2011, 20:21

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Originally Posted by alastair

When you get comments like Gibson is as good as Barton, you wonder whether people actually watch non-United games. But that's besides the point, it's not a Gibson thread.

.

I dont normally agree with you, and KM is correct this is not a Gibbo V Barton thread.

But I cant believe there are some who think Gibson is better than Barton. It really is nuts

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Wouldn't have imagined Michael Owen doing that but you've summed up his United career right there.

If Fergie wants rid of gibson - and he obviously does - I don't see the problem with replacing him with a player who is far better, so long as he is willing to follow Owen's lead and accept that reputation doesn't guarantee games when you sign for Manchester United.

I've already said how the Owen situation is different, opportunity to continue to play for another huge club.

Having enough faith in his own ability to sign a pay as you play deal.

One was a striker entering his 30s his best days behind him, the others at the peak of his career.

But all that aside just because Owen is happy with his role how does that suggest Barton would be?

Ones a model pro with a history of playing for top sides. I'm positive he wants to play more games and i'm sure he'll apply himself in trainin to try and achieve that. Barton on the otherhand is a scumbag with a history of trouble thats followed him everywhere he's been.

When things weren't going his way at Toon what did he do? Took to fucking Twitter to criticise the club.

That he maybe better than Gibson is no reason to sign him. If Gibson goes give Cleverly his shot and leave Barton to resume his glittering career at the next in a long line of mid table clubs. And let them deal with his shit.

davisjw · 1st August 2011, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Eyepopper

Exactly, when did being better than Gibson become the primary criteria when looking for players?

Can you imagine him coming here and playing 20 games a season, being comsistently overlooked for big games and settling for it? Because thats where Gibson is, and theres no way Barton is better than Fletcher or Carrick.

I'd disagree. I think Barton is on the same level of defensive qualities as Fletcher and better offensively. Very underrated here. Not saying I want him, but Fletcher wasn't very good last year. Far from the player he was two years ago.

duffer · 1st August 2011, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Eyepopper

One was a striker entering his 30s his best days behind him, the others at the peak of his career.

Owen was 29 when you signed him. Batron turns 29 on 2nd September. Not a huge difference.

PJ · 1st August 2011, 20:45

talking robot · 1st August 2011, 20:59

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Originally Posted by duffer

Owen was 29 when you signed him. Batron turns 29 on 2nd September. Not a huge difference.

joey barton would be cancer in the locker room while owen is a positive influence.

Randall Flagg · 1st August 2011, 21:01

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Originally Posted by talking robot

joey barton would be cancer in the locker room while owen is a positive influence.

Its not a signing I want but saying that he is apparently very popular with his Newcastle teammates. Perhaps he really has turned a corner.

twitchchris · 1st August 2011, 21:06

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Its not a signing I want but saying that he is apparently very popular with his Newcastle teammates. Perhaps he really has turned a corner.

It's well known among psychologists that psychopaths can be superficially charming.

He hasn't turned a corner: he's acting like a human to protect his livelihood.

Godfather · 1st August 2011, 21:07

Snow · 1st August 2011, 21:08

Would be an interesting development if he came here. We're missing a midfield twat that other teams are kind of afraid of.

Brophs · 1st August 2011, 21:10

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Originally Posted by twitchchris

It's well known among psychologists that psychopaths can be superficially charming.

So you've made the leap from him being a bit of a thug to a psychpath?

PJ · 1st August 2011, 21:13

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Originally Posted by Brophs

So you've made the leap from him being a bit of a thug to a psychpath?

Fixed (the bolding part, not the spelling mistake you muppet)

Brophs · 1st August 2011, 21:16

What?

PJ · 1st August 2011, 21:19

He's not just a "psychopath", he's a "psychopath"

Eyepopper · 1st August 2011, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by duffer

Owen was 29 when you signed him. Batron turns 29 on 2nd September. Not a huge difference.

My mistake, thought Barton was only about 27.

What about all the other points?

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1st August 2011, 18:39	#161 (permalink)
Fiskey Can't stop thinking about David Nugent's hot naked body Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,261	Think he's a good player, and would be alright here. If Fergie decides he needs a stopgap until the Pogba, Morrison, James generation then fair enough.

1st August 2011, 18:41	#164 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 13,348	Some people settled for Adams!!! Let's buy adams...Some would settle for Barton!!!! Let's buy Barton. He's better then Gibson. One word comes to mind and that word is Bollocks....it won't happen.

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Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 10,350	What a bunch of cunts in this thread, a thread about Joey fucking Barton going on a free turns into another Darren Gibson is shite thread. In the name of good fuck leave Gibbo alone..wankers!!! Isnt there a Newcastle supporter on this forum?

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alastair Booooooooooo!! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: None. Posts: 7,185	When you get comments like Gibson is as good as Barton, you wonder whether people actually watch non-United games. But that's besides the point, it's not a Gibson thread. Barton's done a lot of bad things in his life, but he's never been bad at football. He's a top 8 player - ie, could start for anyone 6-8 but only would be a sub for a 1-5 team. As I say, I'd have no problem with him in the Arsenal squad, he'd be useful to have around, as long as he keeps up the good behaviour that he's shown over the last couple of years.

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Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, think I'm heading home! Posts: 50,190	I agree with that, don't see the issue. But then, i dont see Gibson as the spawn of Satan.

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Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 18,109	Good little player, not gonna set the world alight but is a good set piece taker/passer and obviously gets stuck in. He'd be on less wages and contribute more than Hargreaves did the last couple of seasons so if we did sign him i wouldn't be upset, wouldn't be overly pleased mind. Can't see it happening either way, but then Fergie does like to throw a surprise our way every now and then and on a free that is value.

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Maajid Formerly Mad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 5,311	Skysports.com understands Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton. Trio tracking Barton \| Stoke City News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers \| Sky Sports

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Boss Melodramatic, attention seeking space-attacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I left you with enough memories to resurrect me with Posts: 24,283	Cheers for the exclusive Mad.

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Maajid Formerly Mad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 5,311	Pleasure, fucktard.

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Stookie Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Quit yo jibba jabba... you aint hurt! Posts: 2,751	I'd take him on a free even though he is a complete twat but to be honest I think a lot of fottballers are complete twats. He'll end up at Villa. If Gibson is given a good run in the team this season I think he coud turn out to be a great player, cannot understand the real dislike for him on here.

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Crispy71 Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Behind Enemy Lines Posts: 717	Plenty of footballers are idiots/dickheads/thick as pig shit and we have dealt with a few at United, but el Joey of Huyton takes it to a new level and despite his reasonable footballing attributes he is not the kind of person I for one would want to be pulling on a United shirt. He is a selfish odious little man with some mental issues who still knocks around with the absolute lowlife dickheads from Huyton Liverpool who are an excuse for pond life and nothing but scum. If people think he is even fit to be considered as a United player I suggest you look at some of the stunts he has pulled through his life and consider that these are just the ones that made the press. I have dealt with the bloke on numerous occasions and although he isn't a bad person per-say, he is always on the edge of trouble and always will be.

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Fergie's Man Suffers Snails fetish Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,263	I am surprised that some people in here are actually fearful that SAF would bring that cock to OT. Behave yourselves!!

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Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 12,319	Would be an interesting development if he came here. We're missing a midfield twat that other teams are kind of afraid of.

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Brophs Brewlio's fugly sister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Why don't we just kill Badger? Posts: 27,706	What?

1st August 2011, 21:19	#199 (permalink)
PJ Mrs Robinson's bit on the side Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Playing guess who with Samuel L Jackson Posts: 15,109	He's not just a "psychopath", he's a "psychopath"