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Old 20th May 2008, 20:05   #81 (permalink)
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Okay dont actually make any valid arguments against what i said and then try and say i talk shit?

Inter looked shite against Liverpool, many many teams in europe sinse Rafa was boss have looked shite against Liverpool. Take into account dodgy dodgy refereeing and hey presto.

Okay Italian defenders are some of the best in the world and i think you would get some committed defending in italy and anywhere else with a high standard of football. Your point makes no sense. In italy they dont defend? they don't have a host of world class defensive midfielders in all of the top teams?

Milan schooled United last season in europe, remember? i guess not. And Milan like Liverpool havn't challenged for a title in years. Does that make any sense to you?

And you say the EPL is in a league of its own with Spain and Italy also, biggest amount of crap i've ever heard.

Also how can you see a rebroadcast of a match that was played on sunday ont he saturday before?
It's Tuesday, lad. Let's not get too childish here. La Liga's matches were Saturday. Serie A's Sunday. Fine. Well done, I reckon. As for the rest of your nonsensical regurgitated response, you're still missing the point. It's the style of play. And why are you trying to make a case for the defending in Serie A when you just stated there were more goals scored in the league than in England? The Prem is far superior right now. If you can't see that, you know fuck all about football. As for Milan, injuries to the United squad were a big aid to them last season. I think United had more quality if fit. But all credit to Milan. They have certainly been warriors in Europe.
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It's quite clear that Serie A has slipped behind La Liga and the PL. Class acts like Figo and Ronaldhino only go there from La Liga when they're on the way down. Head to head against PL teams they're getting caned often looking short of condition.
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My point is to say Serie A is all of a sudden a 3rd rate league is rediculous. Yes after the scandal it took a blow and has problems but it has and never will lack quality. Even your very own super hero Cristiano Ronaldo has stated that one day he would like to play in Spain or Italy.

Now if the EPL is easily far and away in a league of its own as you say why would anyone with any ability in football play anywhere else? I'm not saying the EPL isn't or is the best because frankly it is unimportant and irrelevent. They are the top 3 leagues in the world of football and will continue to be as far as i can see.

SAF is correct in saying these things work in cycles. Recently Spain had a host of teams in the semis, before that Italy were dominating with an all Italian final, it is irrelevent.

The premierships big 4 are without doubt a force in europe but outside of that the quality of football and ability of the teams is non existent. In Spain and Italy the middle of the table teams are still ahead of the middle of the road teams in the Prem. And the top teams in italy and spain won't sit about doing nothing so i expect european competition to be very competitive next season.

But don't expect me to say the EPL is third rate when Italy or Spain have 3 or 4 teams in the semis of the champions league.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:04   #84 (permalink)
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It's quite clear that Serie A has slipped behind La Liga and the PL. Class acts like Figo and Ronaldhino only go there from La Liga when they're on the way down. Head to head against PL teams they're getting caned often looking short of condition.
Jesus you guys make me sound like some advocator for forign football here but i do agree with what you say to a certain extent. But you have to think that Figo and Ronaldinho and any of these other players "on the way down" could just as easily end up in the EPL and almost all of them will be wanted by EPL clubs, the fact they go to Italy doesn't mean they are going there to retire.

I'm pretty sure that Italian football will be back to its best in the up coming seasons. Scandal behind them, Juve back, Milan sort themselves out and you have a fantastically competitive league. out of the top 3 the EPL is easily the most predictable. I hope spurs can get it together next season and some of this extream money the forign owners are bringing into the EPL can push the teams behind the top 4 to challange.
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Originally he was destined for spain due to his spanish fiance.... I recon he will stay at chelsea, but you never know.
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Yeah he's trying to squeeze Chelski for more money (which he'll more then likely get), he aint leaving.
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Old 21st May 2008, 18:49   #87 (permalink)
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My point is to say Serie A is all of a sudden a 3rd rate league is rediculous. Yes after the scandal it took a blow and has problems but it has and never will lack quality. Even your very own super hero Cristiano Ronaldo has stated that one day he would like to play in Spain or Italy.

Now if the EPL is easily far and away in a league of its own as you say why would anyone with any ability in football play anywhere else? I'm not saying the EPL isn't or is the best because frankly it is unimportant and irrelevent. They are the top 3 leagues in the world of football and will continue to be as far as i can see.

SAF is correct in saying these things work in cycles. Recently Spain had a host of teams in the semis, before that Italy were dominating with an all Italian final, it is irrelevent.

The premierships big 4 are without doubt a force in europe but outside of that the quality of football and ability of the teams is non existent. In Spain and Italy the middle of the table teams are still ahead of the middle of the road teams in the Prem. And the top teams in italy and spain won't sit about doing nothing so i expect european competition to be very competitive next season.

But don't expect me to say the EPL is third rate when Italy or Spain have 3 or 4 teams in the semis of the champions league.
Not happening any time soon. Right now, Serie A is in sad shape. As far as your assessment of mid-table teams from league to league, I do not agree. The likes of Everton, Villa, Tottenham, City or even Newcastle are no worse off than their Italian compatriots. In fact, I would venture to say the afformentioned will probably be superior to even La Liga's second tier in the coming years with the progess made lately and investments to be made. I say this because I normally seem to think La Liga has the most quality in the middle of the table in terms of squads who can give big clubs a problem. However, I certainly agree with the sentiment that it goes in cycles. Of course it does. But at the moment, the momentum is most certainly in England. Right now, neither Italy nor Spain seem to have much quality at the top, much less mid table.
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Not happening any time soon. Right now, Serie A is in sad shape. As far as your assessment of mid-table teams from league to league, I do not agree. The likes of Everton, Villa, Tottenham, City or even Newcastle are no worse off than their Italian compatriots. In fact, I would venture to say the afformentioned will probably be superior to even La Liga's second tier in the coming years with the progess made lately and investments to be made. I say this because I normally seem to think La Liga has the most quality in the middle of the table in terms of squads who can give big clubs a problem. However, I certainly agree with the sentiment that it goes in cycles. Of course it does. But at the moment, the momentum is most certainly in England. Right now, neither Italy nor Spain seem to have much quality at the top, much less mid table.
Nonsense. The top teams in italy and spain are still as big a draw as any team in England and attract players of the same ability and stature. If you think Barca, Real, Inter and Milan don't have quality you are having a laugh.

Tottenham are the only team capable of the ones you mention of doing anything in europe. Everton have hardly any quality, Villa are untested but i reckon would get found out and Newcastle? please.

Tottenham got done by a dutch team who by your estimations must be what? in the 5th 6th or 7th rate and then Everton got done by Fiorentina who being in a 3rd rate division would really do well to beat a team like everton who finished 5th in the Prem.

You seem to have this impression that the premiership will continue to go from strengh to strengh and the rest of europe will just stagnate and make no attempt to improve.

Barca are going to overhaul, Real demand european success. Milan will be a different team in a year or two and Juve are back in the champions league so expect big changes there.
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Showed his class yet again at the biggest stage. Scored and hit the bar once with an excellent shot. He is a one of a kind player. Its very unfair to compare him to the technically superior Decos and Scholseys. For all the talk about deflected goals, less than 10% of his goals are from deflected shots.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 17:54   #90 (permalink)
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Best league in the world & one of the most consistant scorers and the numties in here still thinks he is not a good player. I swear sum of you fuckers have never played or watched football, as saying lamps wouldn't have the time on the ball in italy as he does in epl is stupid. In the epl you get tackles flying in from all angels and games played at 100mph, so the slow style of play in spain or italy would more likely suit lamps. Anyway hope he leaves as chelski will be weakened and mu world domination will be one more step closure
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Old 22nd May 2008, 18:05   #91 (permalink)
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he was really good yesterday, did the right things and scored when it mattered most. solid player.
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Old 8th July 2008, 12:18   #92 (permalink)
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Chelsea have confirmed an approach from Inter Milan for midfielder Frank Lampard but insist they are not interested in selling the England international.

Lampard is Inter's top summer target after former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho was appointed coach of the Serie A champions.

Mourinho had previously suggested the Nerazzurri would have to wait until next summer to sign the 30-year-old, who has 12 months left on his contract.

However, Inter would prefer to take Lampard to the Serie A before the close of the current transfer window.

An approach has been made to Chelsea, but the Premier League club have dismissed the enquiry and do not plan to sell Lampard.

"Chelsea Football Club can confirm it has received an official approach from Internazionale to discuss the possible transfer of Frank Lampard," read a statement on the club's official website.

"Contrary to reports no financial offer was made.

"Chelsea FC has informed Inter this morning that we will not enter into any discussions regarding the transfer of Frank Lampard."


Inter's technical director, Marco Branca, has indicated that Lampard, who returned from a holiday in Italy last week, would be offered a four-year deal worth about €163,000 a week to lure him to San Siro.

The midfielder himself is still tempted to be reunited with Mourinho on the continent but is also very conscious of the support offered to him by the club after the death of his mother towards the end of last season.

The former West Ham United youngster has been negotiating a new deal at Stamford Bridge, but has yet to reach an agreement.

The recent arrival of Deco from Barcelona only served to heighten speculation that Lampard could be reunited with Mourinho at Inter.

But Chelsea have now made their position clear and are not willing to part with a player who has scored 110 goals in almost 370 appearances for the club.


So looks like he's staying.
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What the fuck are they going to do then? Are they going to rotate Makelele, Mikel, Essien, Ballack, Deco, and Lampard?
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What the fuck are they going to do then? Are they going to rotate Makelele, Mikel, Essien, Ballack, Deco, and Lampard?
Mikel to rot in the reserves
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What the fuck are they going to do then? Are they going to rotate Makelele, Mikel, Essien, Ballack, Deco, and Lampard?
And the storys about Kaka? add him to the mix and you have a farce of a midfield.
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What the fuck are they going to do then? Are they going to rotate Makelele, Mikel, Essien, Ballack, Deco, and Lampard?
We really do not need to care. Makelele is past it, so they'll let Essien play as holding midfielder, which is a good thing considering it's not his natural position and he is probably the best midfielder Chelsea have. I expect Deco and Lampard to take the other two midfields spots while Ballack might become a part-time player. I must admit their squad depth is unbelievable though...
Oh, and Mikel certainly gets what he deserves. Cunt
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What the fuck are they going to do then? Are they going to rotate Makelele, Mikel, Essien, Ballack, Deco, and Lampard?
I guess Essien, Ballack, Deco and Lampard will be the main four, their version of Scholes/Carrick/Hargreaves/Anderson (which, considering they use three at a time more than we do is fair enough). Then Mikel will be their equivalent of Fletcher.

Makelele will be more and more a bit-part player.
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What the hell ever happened to Steve Sidwell? What was he smoking when he left the first team at Reading for the Chelsea reserves...
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What the hell ever happened to Steve Sidwell? What was he smoking when he left the first team at Reading for the Chelsea reserves...
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After Scolari's comments and Lampards agents quick response im beginning to believe this is all just a ploy to get the contract he wants.
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Old 8th July 2008, 16:42   #102 (permalink)
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What the hell ever happened to Steve Sidwell? What was he smoking when he left the first team at Reading for the Chelsea reserves...
He aint done too bad. He's been on 50k a week for the last year and Reading are now in the Championship. He will now move on and get a fat signing on fee.

In hindsight, not a bad more.
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I guess Essien, Ballack, Deco and Lampard will be the main four, their version of Scholes/Carrick/Hargreaves/Anderson (which, considering they use three at a time more than we do is fair enough). Then Mikel will be their equivalent of Fletcher.

Makelele will be more and more a bit-part player.
You know, it would be awesome if Bosingwa turns out to be as shit as Ferreira and they have to use Essien again on right back.
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Chelsea will reject Inter Milan's £7.95million bid for Frank Lampard.



The club are adamant that they will not budge on the sale of the England midfielder despite Inter's first official offer for the player.


Chelsea have made it clear to Inter that they 'will not enter into any discussions' over his transfer.


Inter's official offer, made this evening, arrived hours after new coach Luiz Felipe Scolari insisted that both Lampard and AC Milan target Didier Drogba have a future with him at Chelsea.


Although Lampard's agent issued a statement saying that his client's future remains unresolved, the player himself told Scolari that he is happy to stay at Stamford Bridge for years to come.


Jose Mourinho, now coach at Inter, is desperate to land Lampard but Chelsea are equally determined to hang on to their freescoring midfielder.


Scolari was officially unveiled by Chelsea at Cobham's Hilton Hotel today and immediately told Mourinho and the rest of Europe that his top players were staying.


Chelsea had earlier announced that they had rejected an 'approach' for Lampard from Inter Milan and they will now turn down the official offer from the Italians.
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Kenyon standing firm saying Lampard will see out all of his one year contract even if he doesn't sign a new contract.
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I hope that happens.

Deco, Fatty, Ballack, Essien, Obi Mikel, Makelele

There is gonna be one or two upsetl players our of that lot.
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I am surprised they turned it down. I thought it was pretty good for a player with one year left.
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Internazionale director Gabriele Oriali claims Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard wants to join the Italian champions this summer.


New Inter coach Jose Mourinho, Lampard's former boss at Stamford Bridge, has made no secret of the fact he would like the England international in his squad, but Lampard is under contract with the west London club for another year and Chelsea are adamant they will not sell him.


'We have done everything that was in our means. We cannot certainly take him away from Chelsea by force,' Oriali told Mediaset TV. 'What is certain right now is that the player wants strongly to come to Inter.'

Lampard's possible move to Italy has been a major talking point in the country of late, but former Chelsea star Gianfranco Zola acknowledges the deal will not go ahead unless the Premier League side have a change of heart.

He said: 'If Chelsea have in their minds not to give way, Inter have no chance of signing Lampard, regardless of the player's wish.'

Meanwhile, Mourinho was full of praise for the England star during his interview with Ford's FeelFootball.com.

'Frank Lampard is a different kind of person, not so extroverted,' Mourinho said. 'He's the best professional I've ever worked with. He's the player who trains better, has more concentration, more commitment and is always focused on himself.

'He is never happy about his performance, always wants to improve, and always wants to learn.

'Lampard is incredibly professional. God gave players the talent, and some of them waste this. But some others make themselves better and these are the kind of the players who can last forever.'

Lampard has one year left on his contract and could invoke FIFA's Article 17 and buy himself out of the club. But that is likely to cause a major conflict with Chelsea, who expect him to honour the remaining 12 months of his deal if he refuses to sign the extension offer currently on the table.

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