Man United take a look at Welsh wizard Aaron Ramsey

Younited.7 · 13th May 2008, 13:56

Age 17

Born Caerphilly

Position Midfield

Height 5ft 10in

Weight 10st 7lb

From Trainee

Pace 8/10

Passing 10/10

Tackling 8/10

Crossing 9/10

Team responsibility 8/10

Value £2m

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y.championship

Sounds pretty special, will have to keep an eye out

Classy Cannon · 13th May 2008, 13:57

I've only seen him once in the FA cup & I thought he was a left-footed winger. He was a bit good though.

Cold_Boy · 13th May 2008, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarni

Why? It's a normal bebo, just like tons of others.

Agreed.

Plus he is only 17.

sonymobby · 13th May 2008, 13:59

Wikipedia says that he plays for us now!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Ramsey

Aaron Ramsey

Personal information
Full name Aaron Ramsey
Date of birth December 26, 1990 (age 17)
Place of birth Caerphilly, Wales
Height 1.78 m (5 ft 10 in)
Playing position Midfielder
Club information
Current club Manchester United
Youth clubs
1999-2007 Cardiff City
Senior clubs1
Years Club App (Gls)*
2007-2008
2008- Cardiff City
Manchester United 15 (1)
National team2
2005-
2007- Wales U17
Wales U21 15 (2)
7 (0)

1 Senior club appearances and goals
counted for the domestic league only and
correct as of 16:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC).
2 National team caps and goals correct
as of 22:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC).
* Appearances (Goals)

Cold_Boy · 13th May 2008, 14:02

So have we signed him?

Many people seem convinced he is joining us.

Kaiketsu_Zorro · 13th May 2008, 14:03

There was information on Wikipedia a few days ago that Huntelaar has already agreed terms with us, only for it to disappear after a few hours.

Everybody can add anything they want to Wikipedia and for as long as some mod doesn't check if it's really true, it can be there for some time. Therefore I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia as transfer news source..

FortBoyard · 13th May 2008, 14:16

His united future is bright according to wiki:

2008-Manchester United 759 (276)

prateik · 13th May 2008, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by united.7

Value £2m

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y.championship

Sounds pretty special, will have to keep an eye out

overpaying for him ..

we are paying 150% more than he is valued

why ... why

lao · 13th May 2008, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by prateik

overpaying for him ..

we are paying 150% more than he is valued

why ... why

Calm down. Everything the press writes aren't done deals. Especially not transfer fees..

prateik · 13th May 2008, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by lao

Calm down. Everything the press writes aren't done deals. Especially not transfer fees..

maybe i shouldve used a few more Smilies

the valuation part in that article is bs .. if he is as good as that guardian article says then he's worth a lot more than 2m

Younited.7 · 13th May 2008, 14:50

Yes he would be worth more than 2m.

I would be surprised if we put a hell of a lot more than 2m up-front, these deals are usually spread over a period of time (installments) or bonus payments related to international or fist team appearances.

Much of the Walcott deal was done in that way, it makes sense.

anything about now · 13th May 2008, 14:52

Or perhaps the 5m package is similar to Rooney... X league appearances, X goals, X international appearances, maybe even another league title or two before we pay that full amount.

Elliott · 13th May 2008, 15:07

Claridge gave Fraizer 8s and 9s across the board, then valued him at 1mp. That's about 25% of his real value so I wouldn't pay attention to that part of the report.

Woodzy · 13th May 2008, 15:13

Just spoke to my Cardiff mate to ask him if he knew anything that was going on. He said everything at the moment is just rumours, and the papers are just chucking out these stories because of the end of season.

He did say that there's definite interest from us though and has been a while, as well as most of the top teams in the premiership so that much is true. The Cardiff chairman and manager were also at the Nou Camp during our game a few weeks ago, so make of that what you will (he reckons they've were to for a meeting with some potential investors to help sort out the clubs financial problems, but it also seems that United had some involvement with the being there.)

There's also talk of us either sending him back on loan as soon as we sign him, which would make sense, or giving Cardiff a player or two on loan in return.

It's all just rumours though, so you can't really read into anything. Nothing to get excited about. He said it's very likely Ramsay will be leaving for the premiership come the summer though.

DaSPOT · 13th May 2008, 15:34

in the mirror they already claim he is our player http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20416679/

Kaiketsu_Zorro · 13th May 2008, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaSPOT

in the mirror they already claim he is our player http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20416679/

looks like they're certain he will sign.

I'll believe it when I see it on Manutd.com.

DaSPOT · 13th May 2008, 15:43

im looking for a video for the kid but i cant find anything on youtube which i find weird

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 18:23

I could see Martin going in exchange, either on loan or permanently. Other possibilities could include Gibson or Hewson, perhaps Brandy for a loan spell. Assuming this happens of course.

I saw him play in the FA Cup semifinal and he didn't do much that I saw after subbing for an injured player early in the second half. From what I saw he played on the right wing but I wasn't watching intensely like I would a MUFC match. Maybe he'll be a Beckham type - started out as a midfielder before being pushed to the wing.

FortBoyard · 13th May 2008, 18:28

They've lifted that second article from looking at this site and finding the relevant links.

Ivor Ballokov · 13th May 2008, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarcello

I could see Martin going in exchange, either on loan or permanently. Other possibilities could include Gibson or Hewson, perhaps Brandy for a loan spell. Assuming this happens of course.

I saw him play in the FA Cup semifinal and he didn't do much that I saw after subbing for an injured player early in the second half. From what I saw he played on the right wing but I wasn't watching intensely like I would a MUFC match. Maybe he'll be a Beckham type - started out as a midfielder before being pushed to the wing.

Yeah he can play on the wing, happens to a lot of young players though before they can be trusted in the middle (or vice versa if you're Gerrard).

If Brandy goes there it will be a big test of character for him.

Makki · 13th May 2008, 19:04

The question we all ask ourselves now is probably: Is he any good on FM?

Kaiketsu_Zorro · 13th May 2008, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makki

The question we all ask ourselves now is probably: Is he any good on FM?

Not really, but scouts say he has potential

carpy · 13th May 2008, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarcello

I could see Martin going in exchange, either on loan or permanently. Other possibilities could include Gibson or Hewson, perhaps Brandy for a loan spell. Assuming this happens of course.

I saw him play in the FA Cup semifinal and he didn't do much that I saw after subbing for an injured player early in the second half. From what I saw he played on the right wing but I wasn't watching intensely like I would a MUFC match. Maybe he'll be a Beckham type - started out as a midfielder before being pushed to the wing.

He played at right-back in that game from what I remember. Dave Jones has admitted he has no idea what Ramsey's best position is yet (but also said he's such a natural footballer he's comfortable playing him in any position because he knows he'll do a good job). I've seen him play right back, central midfield, both wings and as a forward. From what I've seen, he has fantastic potential. I think I'd like to see him get another year at Cardiff though before moving on (even if United sign him i.e. loan him back - although I very much doubt that would happen).

FlawlessThaw · 13th May 2008, 19:47

So are we signing him or what - would make the FA Cup final slightly more interesting.

UBERScholes · 13th May 2008, 19:54

The guy's scared of tarantulas, how the fuck is he going to hack it in the Premiership?

Erictheking7 · 13th May 2008, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpy

He played at right-back in that game from what I remember. Dave Jones has admitted he has no idea what Ramsey's best position is yet (but also said he's such a natural footballer he's comfortable playing him in any position because he knows he'll do a good job). I've seen him play right back, central midfield, both wings and as a forward. From what I've seen, he has fantastic potential. I think I'd like to see him get another year at Cardiff though before moving on (even if United sign him i.e. loan him back - although I very much doubt that would happen).

Yes he played at right back when he came on against Barnsley and has played other positions but his future lies as a midfield playmaker from what i've seen of him. I went up to Wembley to watch the semi final with my mates who are Cardiff season ticket holders and they were all gutted when the team was announced and Ramsey was on the bench.
Every Cardiff fan I know rates the kid as a special talent and they have been telling me for months that he'll be at Old Trafford after this season.

[Hellboy]17 · 13th May 2008, 20:53

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/tra...on-ramsey.html

Interesting.

Hawkeye · 13th May 2008, 21:23

I'm from Cardiff
Nothing will be confirmed till after the Cup Final but the Cardiff Directors were at the Nou Camp as said above apparently "try to impress potential investors"

The Rumour i've heard is that its 5million up front, 5 million in clause and two loan players. Ramsey is one and the other is rumoured to be Tom Heaton

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I'm from Cardiff
Nothing will be confirmed till after the Cup Final but the Cardiff Directors were at the Nou Camp as said above apparently "try to impress potential investors"

The Rumour i've heard is that its 5million up front, 5 million in clause and two loan players. Ramsey is one and the other is rumoured to be Tom Heaton

Little lost there... you mean the club will loan Ramsey back or did you intend to mention a current United reserve/youth player?

Hawkeye · 13th May 2008, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarcello

Little lost there... you mean the club will loan Ramsey back or did you intend to mention a current United reserve/youth player?

Two Players on loan for the season - one of which is Ramsey back to Cardiff and Tom Heaton is the other loan

13th May 2008, 13:56	#41 (permalink)
Younited.7 united.7 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Evenage Posts: 2,075	Age 17 Born Caerphilly Position Midfield Height 5ft 10in Weight 10st 7lb From Trainee Pace 8/10 Passing 10/10 Tackling 8/10 Crossing 9/10 Team responsibility 8/10 Value £2m http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...y.championship Sounds pretty special, will have to keep an eye out

13th May 2008, 13:57	#42 (permalink)
Classy Cannon Left Back in the changing room Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,001	I've only seen him once in the FA cup & I thought he was a left-footed winger. He was a bit good though.

13th May 2008, 13:59	#44 (permalink)
sonymobby Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,773	Wikipedia says that he plays for us now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Ramsey Aaron Ramsey Personal information Full name Aaron Ramsey Date of birth December 26, 1990 (age 17) Place of birth Caerphilly, Wales Height 1.78 m (5 ft 10 in) Playing position Midfielder Club information Current club Manchester United Youth clubs 1999-2007 Cardiff City Senior clubs1 Years Club App (Gls)* 2007-2008 2008- Cardiff City Manchester United 15 (1) National team2 2005- 2007- Wales U17 Wales U21 15 (2) 7 (0) 1 Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of 16:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC). 2 National team caps and goals correct as of 22:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC). * Appearances (Goals)

13th May 2008, 14:02	#45 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Amit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: somewhere i hate to live Posts: 9,693	So have we signed him? Many people seem convinced he is joining us.

13th May 2008, 14:03	#46 (permalink)
Kaiketsu_Zorro A follower of Manchunism Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Polska Posts: 1,336	There was information on Wikipedia a few days ago that Huntelaar has already agreed terms with us, only for it to disappear after a few hours. Everybody can add anything they want to Wikipedia and for as long as some mod doesn't check if it's really true, it can be there for some time. Therefore I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia as transfer news source..

13th May 2008, 14:16	#47 (permalink)
FortBoyard AdN11 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Champions of England & Europe Posts: 1,584	His united future is bright according to wiki: 2008-Manchester United 759 (276)

13th May 2008, 14:50	#51 (permalink)
Younited.7 united.7 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Evenage Posts: 2,075	Yes he would be worth more than 2m. I would be surprised if we put a hell of a lot more than 2m up-front, these deals are usually spread over a period of time (installments) or bonus payments related to international or fist team appearances. Much of the Walcott deal was done in that way, it makes sense.

13th May 2008, 14:52	#52 (permalink)
anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,509	Or perhaps the 5m package is similar to Rooney... X league appearances, X goals, X international appearances, maybe even another league title or two before we pay that full amount.

13th May 2008, 15:07	#53 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,566	Claridge gave Fraizer 8s and 9s across the board, then valued him at 1mp. That's about 25% of his real value so I wouldn't pay attention to that part of the report.

13th May 2008, 15:13	#54 (permalink)
Woodzy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 1,418	Just spoke to my Cardiff mate to ask him if he knew anything that was going on. He said everything at the moment is just rumours, and the papers are just chucking out these stories because of the end of season. He did say that there's definite interest from us though and has been a while, as well as most of the top teams in the premiership so that much is true. The Cardiff chairman and manager were also at the Nou Camp during our game a few weeks ago, so make of that what you will (he reckons they've were to for a meeting with some potential investors to help sort out the clubs financial problems, but it also seems that United had some involvement with the being there.) There's also talk of us either sending him back on loan as soon as we sign him, which would make sense, or giving Cardiff a player or two on loan in return. It's all just rumours though, so you can't really read into anything. Nothing to get excited about. He said it's very likely Ramsay will be leaving for the premiership come the summer though.

13th May 2008, 15:34	#55 (permalink)
DaSPOT on his face is caused by puberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 1,348	in the mirror they already claim he is our player http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20416679/

13th May 2008, 15:43	#57 (permalink)
DaSPOT on his face is caused by puberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 1,348	im looking for a video for the kid but i cant find anything on youtube which i find weird

13th May 2008, 18:23	#58 (permalink)
MrMarcello First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Saha's hospital room Posts: 18,845	I could see Martin going in exchange, either on loan or permanently. Other possibilities could include Gibson or Hewson, perhaps Brandy for a loan spell. Assuming this happens of course. I saw him play in the FA Cup semifinal and he didn't do much that I saw after subbing for an injured player early in the second half. From what I saw he played on the right wing but I wasn't watching intensely like I would a MUFC match. Maybe he'll be a Beckham type - started out as a midfielder before being pushed to the wing.

13th May 2008, 18:28	#59 (permalink)
FortBoyard AdN11 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Champions of England & Europe Posts: 1,584	They've lifted that second article from looking at this site and finding the relevant links.

13th May 2008, 19:04	#61 (permalink)
Makki Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 894	The question we all ask ourselves now is probably: Is he any good on FM?

13th May 2008, 19:47	#64 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 9,450	So are we signing him or what - would make the FA Cup final slightly more interesting.

13th May 2008, 19:54	#65 (permalink)
UBERScholes I'd find it flattering if someone hard rubbed against me. Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,485	The guy's scared of tarantulas, how the fuck is he going to hack it in the Premiership?

13th May 2008, 20:53	#67 (permalink)
[Hellboy]17 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berba-Town Posts: 4,703	http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/tra...on-ramsey.html Interesting.

13th May 2008, 21:23	#68 (permalink)
Hawkeye Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OI OI! Posts: 2,622	I'm from Cardiff Nothing will be confirmed till after the Cup Final but the Cardiff Directors were at the Nou Camp as said above apparently "try to impress potential investors" The Rumour i've heard is that its 5million up front, 5 million in clause and two loan players. Ramsey is one and the other is rumoured to be Tom Heaton