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Old 11th April 2012, 13:44   #1 (permalink)
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Manchester United monitor Jack Butland

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Sir Alex Ferguson is considering a summer move for Birmingham City’s £3 million-rated goalkeeper, Jack Butland.

Ferguson, the Manchester United manager, sent his goalkeeping coach, Eric Steele, to make a personal check on Butland in Cheltenham’s 1-0 defeat at Rotherham on Monday.
Butland, who made his debut for the England Under-21s last year, is on his second loan spell with League Two Cheltenham and has also been regularly watched by Arsenal this season.
The 19-year-old has represented England at every level up to the under-21s but is still yet to make a first-team appearance for Birmingham.
Chris Hughton, the Birmingham manager, is expecting serious interest in the summer and the club are prepared to sell Butland if they receive a suitable offer.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...am-keeper.html

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Old 11th April 2012, 13:48   #2 (permalink)
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Dont see the point in looking at keepers considering our no1 is so young, as is our no2 and no3 actually.
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Old 11th April 2012, 13:48   #3 (permalink)
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I got him in football manager as a second keeper to de gea once. Was decent, hth

It'd be a strange signing though seeing as we have a few young keepers.
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Old 11th April 2012, 13:48   #4 (permalink)
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Third choice keeper I presume for next year. Loan out Amos at the same time, if Butland turns out to be any good he can then compete with Amos for number 2 spot and potentially compete with De Gea for the number 1 jersey.

The fact that he is 19 means we wouldn't have to put him in the 25 man squad for a couple of years as well.
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Amos will have to take up one of the squad places next season I think so it maybe a replacement for him.
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Old 11th April 2012, 13:51   #6 (permalink)
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Old 11th April 2012, 14:26   #7 (permalink)
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Fergie tries to think a few moves ahead generally
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Old 11th April 2012, 14:51   #9 (permalink)
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I want to say first that we've some quality young english goalkeepers like Amos, Forster, Stockdale and Butland at the moment but Butland has the biggest potential for me, he'll be 100% in the England team in a couple of years.

But Butland needs games in the next years therefore he must make really the right steps in his career.

We're having De Gea and Lindegaard as our goalkeepers for the next years.
Like said Amos is big talent too but he should go on loan in the next seasons.
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Old 11th April 2012, 14:55   #10 (permalink)
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A young well rated English GK to use as a Number 2/3 with perhaps the long term goal of giving De Gea a challenge for £3 million.

I'd make that deal, damn good deal.
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I want to say first that we've some quality young english goalkeepers like Amos, Forster, Stockdale and Butland at the moment but Butland has the biggest potential for me, he'll be 100% in the England team in a couple of years.

But Butland needs games in the next years therefore he must make really the right steps in his career.

We're having De Gea and Lindegaard as our goalkeepers for the next years.
Like said Amos is big talent too but he should go on loan in the next seasons.
Hart is nailed on for the next 10 though...
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Hart is nailed on for the next 10 though...
Shit doesnt work like that.
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Old 11th April 2012, 15:43   #14 (permalink)
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Hart is nailed on for the next 10 though...
"England Team" isn't starting XI

I hope Hart will have a long future as England's number one but we all know it goes fast in football.

Many people are talking about Butland like many people have talked about Hart a couple of years ago.
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Old 11th April 2012, 16:07   #15 (permalink)
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"England Team" isn't starting XI

I hope Hart will have a long future as England's number one but we all know it goes fast in football.

Many people are talking about Butland like many people have talked about Hart a couple of years ago.
And how many people talked about Foster?

tbf, I don't think it did Foster any good being 'stuck' at United for so long going nowhere. What would be Butland's future at United?
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Old 11th April 2012, 16:10   #16 (permalink)
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Very highly rated, maybe of a case of snatching him so others can't.
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Is he related to Chris Butland?
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Old 11th April 2012, 16:16   #18 (permalink)
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Can classify him as homegrown perhaps?
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Old 11th April 2012, 16:18   #19 (permalink)
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And how many people talked about Foster?
Butland is 19 (Number one for the U21 since last year) and Foster was 23 on his arrival at Old Trafford.
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Old 11th April 2012, 16:28   #20 (permalink)
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Some highly-qualified people believe Butland will be even better than Hart.
Would be surprised if we were'nt in for him bearing in mind missing out no Hart etc and fact he is going cheap now.
I'm 90 per cent certain he will not sign for United though. Others in for him who can offer better first-team football prospects.
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Old 11th April 2012, 17:03   #21 (permalink)
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Very highly rated, maybe of a case of snatching him so others can't.
Every top team in the country except for Tottenham seems sorted at the goalie department for the next few years. Come to think of it... Young, english, FM legend, surely Harry will sign him?
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He had a stinker a couple weeks ago but has generally been great for Cheltenham this season.

Can't hurt to try given his widely talked about potential.
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Old 12th April 2012, 02:49   #23 (permalink)
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The club has always been scouting for great young talents and then get them in if they think the kids will one day be good enough for United, regardless of how they would fit into the team the moment they do. I think the philosophy must be something like: there's nothing to lose if they eventually become better than what we already have.
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Old 12th April 2012, 05:18   #25 (permalink)
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Is he related to Chris Butland?
Byland is the one I was thinking about, whatever happened with him? Genuine talent that lad.
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Old 12th April 2012, 07:59   #26 (permalink)
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he is the most promising GK'ing talent in the country.

over 50 scouts watching each of his matches when he was on loan at Cheltenham for the first half of the season. was recalled back to Brum in January before being sent back out to Cheltenham again. was unstoppable in his first spell, but has had a slightly rockier time since returning.

England U21 int'l at 18 and is a far better prospect than Amos. the thing is, GK's need games and need to play. with Lindegaard and De Gea (who is only 21!) i don't see United as a favourable move for Butland.

remember the name though. between him, Stockdale, Foderingham, Fraser Forster, and even Rudd/Ruddy, there's a small but talented group of English 'keepers out there.
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he is the most promising GK'ing talent in the country.

over 50 scouts watching each of his matches when he was on loan at Cheltenham for the first half of the season. was recalled back to Brum in January before being sent back out to Cheltenham again. was unstoppable in his first spell, but has had a slightly rockier time since returning.

England U21 int'l at 18 and is a far better prospect than Amos. the thing is, GK's need games and need to play. with Lindegaard and De Gea (who is only 21!) i don't see United as a favourable move for Butland.

remember the name though. between him, Stockdale, Foderingham, Fraser Forster, and even Rudd/Ruddy, there's a small but talented group of English 'keepers out there.
Alex Smithies isn't bad either.
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Byland is the one I was thinking about, whatever happened with him? Genuine talent that lad.
Last I heard he'd given up football to become a DJ. What a wasted talent.
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I'm still not sure if Chris Byland is just an inside joke of the Caf or not
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I'm still not sure if Chris Byland is just an inside joke of the Caf or not
Phenomenal talent. People keep harping on about Pogba, Morrison, Rossi and Pique as talents that got away before them, but Byland was the real deal.

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Byland was arguably a bigger talent than R Morrison, as Keano once said, lots of lads have the talent, but character is what gets you to the top..
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Byland had some talent to him, but I'm not sure he would have made it at United. He would have been a great player for someone like Bolton however.
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No promising young goalkeeper in their right mind will come to United at the minute. We have De Gea who's 21 in our goal and he will remain there for a decade or more, anyone who comes here now will have to settle for being No 2 at best and with Lindegaard it seems more likely that it'd even be No 3. Why would Butland, who was a perfectly good chance of becoming England's No 1, settle for that?
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Remember som talk about Byland having a trial at Inter last year.
Dont know what happened though, he had dodgy knees iirc.
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Remember som talk about Byland having a trial at Inter last year.
Dont know what happened though, he had dodgy knees iirc.
He'd have been 29 last year, why the hell would Inter give a trial to a 29 year old with no experience?
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He'd have been 29 last year, why the hell would Inter give a trial to a 29 year old with no experience?
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Very highly rated, maybe of a case of snatching him so others can't.
We are not City or Madrid.
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He'd have been 29 last year, why the hell would Inter give a trial to a 29 year old with no experience?
Inter could do worse than signing up a 29-year old talented lad with dodgy knees and a drinking problem. In fact, they have, they've been awful.
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Inter could do worse than signing up a 29-year old talented lad with dodgy knees and a drinking problem. In fact, they have, they've been awful.
I heard he had completely left football for a while but then got trials at some big clubs around five years ago. He wasn't offered a contract though so he left to pursue career in a different area. I don't think he's going to come back. He's a reputable DJ now.
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