Marek Hamsik

Anduin · 9th January 2012, 14:29

Played as a right-sided forward in a 3-4-3 system last night. He was quite good, but he's not the answer to our gaping hole in central midfield. In fact he isn't even a central midfielder.

gambit28 · 9th January 2012, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Anduin

Played as a right-sided forward in a 3-4-3 system last night. He was quite good, but he's not the answer to our gaping hole in central midfield. In fact he isn't even a central midfielder.

He was a central midfielder for many years (still is for Slovakia) with a penchant to go to the left, then was moved out to the right with licence to drift in matarazzis trident idea centering the attack around cavani and lavezzi. He can play central midfield easily ( I still remember 2 games against AC and Roma 4 years ago where he bossed the midfield against De Rossi, Muntari so effectively it was incredible (I then fell in love)) and with the right players around giving him freedom to be uptop centrally he would be incredible. HE'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.

gambit28 · 11th January 2012, 23:14

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Marek Hamsik's agent claims Napoli forward was AC Milan's 'Mr. X'
The Slovakian was heavily linked with a move to San Siro last summer and his representative has claimed that the Rossoneri had intended to make the forward their marquee signing

Marek Hamsik's agent has revealed that his client was AC Milan's 'Mr. X' during the last transfer window.

Rossoneri CEO Adriano Galliani claimed last summer that the Italian champions would make one high-profile signing before the start of the season.That led to constant speculation about the identity of Milan's mystery man but, in the end, there was no big-name arrival at San Siro.

However, the club was repeatedly linked with a move for Napoli forward Hamsik during that time and the player's representative, Mino Raiola, has now confirmed to Tuttosport: "Milan's Mr. X was Marek Hamsik."

The agent then explained that the reason the proposed deal collapsed was because of the £463 million fine Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi was ordered to pay as part of the fallout from the Lodo Mondadori case.

Indeed, Raiola claimed that Hamsik was to be offered the trequartista role by the Rossoneri "but then came the Mondadori decision and at that point nothing more was done about it."

The deal is now unlikely to be resurrected as Napoli owner Aurelio De Laurentiis claimed last month that Hamsik had signed a new deal with the club which will keep him at the San Paolo until 2015.

So thats who it was.

gambit28 · 2nd February 2012, 22:26

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Hamsik agent opens transfer door
Manchester United and Chelsea target Marek Hamsik could leave Napoli this summer
The agent of highly-rated Napoli playmaker Marek Hamsik has opened the door to his client leaving the club in Italy.

Hamsik was linked with a move to England in January, with Mino Raiola encouraging Chelsea to make an offer for the player alongside Real Madrid and Barcelona, hinting that the Azzurri would accept a substantial bid.

Manchester United and Manchester City have also reportedly targeted the Slovakian international in recent months, with £20 million touted as the figure needed to lure the player away from Serie 'A' back in September.Liverpool were also being linked with a move to take the player from the Stadio San Paolo 12 months ago, but Kenny Dalglish is no longer thought to have an interest in the player, whose future is far from certain.

The same is thought to be true of Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, who was linked with a move in the summer but has no longer been mentioned as a potential suitor.

That's the suggestion from Raiola at least, who hinted that the state of football in Italy is one of the reasons Hamsik hasn't signed a new deal and could be considering a move.

"I have my ideas about the renewal of Hamsik. Marek has not yet signed," he told Tuttonapoli.net.

"The Italian league is becoming poorer, I'm preparing kids for the future, if the policy does not change and you have the same stadiums, I see things becoming difficult."

A move in January was never a realistic option, given Napoli's involvement in the Champions League, but the summer now looks like a possibility if the situation doesn't change.

antohan · 2nd February 2012, 23:16

His agent is a cnut. We would get fleeced and he wouldn't be here long either. Forget it.

RDCR07 · 3rd February 2012, 00:10

Didn't he just sign a new contract last week or something?

gambit28 · 4th February 2012, 09:24

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Originally Posted by RDCR07

Didn't he just sign a new contract last week or something?

Reading the full interview with the agent

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"Marek has not yet signed. The Italian league is becoming poorer, and I’m preparing players for the future.

Raoul · 4th February 2012, 09:28

red2deadboy · 4th February 2012, 09:48

I'd rather we got Gotze TBH, well i'd like us to get both so as to provide flair for both midfield and left wing....but understand we are watching the pennies these days.

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 09:55

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Napoli forward Marek Hamsik, who has been linked with Chelsea and Manchester City, will not join another Serie A club, according to his agent.

And Mino Raiola insists there is not a club in Italy who can afford the Slovakia international, or his team-mates Ezequiel Lavezzi and Edinson Cavani.

All three have been linked with moves to the Premier League, with Manchester United believed to be showing interest in Cavani, and all three being linked with both Chelsea and Man City.

Hamsik has been linked with a move to AC Milan, but Raiola told Sky Sport Italia of his client: "Marek is a player who has such a high transfer value that there are no teams in Italy who can bid for him on the market.

"It is exactly the same situation for Lavezzi and Cavani.".

Back in February, Napoli owner Aurelio Di Laurentiis refused to rule out letting all three leave the Serie A club this summer, stating: "If they have the money to pay, I am waiting for the offers.

"There is never a real price. The price is what the clubs need and what is the hot moment of negotiation.

"They are all fantastic players. We have a lot of fantastic players. I don’t expect anything. Thanks to God, I don’t need the money from anyone. I am rich enough to survive.

"But if somebody wants to make an offer, we are here to listen. You never to close the door to anyone because we are polite.

"If someone wants to make an offer, they can make an offer. We can laugh off their offer if we are not satisfied or we can say: ‘Let’s sit down and discuss this’.

"In life, there is a always a price for everything. It is just a question of the right moment and the right people."

"Keep the home fires burning, though in your heart your yearning..."

Nate Dogg · 13th April 2012, 10:07

Raiola-is this the same guy who is pimping Pogba to Juve

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Nate Dogg

Raiola-is this the same guy who is pimping Pogba to Juve

Here's hoping he has guilty concious then and sends Hamsik our way.

Jimy_Hills_Chin · 13th April 2012, 10:18

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Here's hoping he has guilty concious then and sends Hamsik our way.

Gambit

You seem to be nothing short of obsessed with this fellow, yet when I have seen him he has always been underwhelming. Admittedly I have only seen him play about ten times. What am I missing?

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Jimy_Hills_Chin

Gambit

You seem to be nothing short of obsessed with this fellow, yet when I have seen him he has always been underwhelming. Admittedly I have only seen him play about ten times. What am I missing?

A lot. He's actaully been playing badly recently for the last 2 seasons yet is still incredibly effective and as I've said previously his stats match up better than anyones even Scholes at a similar age. This season he's been recovering from an injury and has made only about half the appearances yet his stats are still brilliant.

towcester_red · 13th April 2012, 11:26

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Originally Posted by gambit28

A lot. He's actaully been playing badly recently for the last 2 seasons yet is still incredibly effective and as I've said previously his stats match up better than anyones even Scholes at a similar age. This season he's been recovering from an injury and has made only about half the appearances yet his stats are still brilliant.

Thats quite a while!

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 11:34

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Originally Posted by towcester_red

Thats quite a while!

Yup, been played out of position for that time yet he still has incredible stats that would make anyone jealous. Better than Gerrard, Lampard, and even Nedved at the same age.

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 11:36

Anyway last time I'm gonna argue his case, next time people need to read through the thread.

SilentWitness · 13th April 2012, 13:07

Do you think the chemistry between him, Lavezzi and Cavani makes him look better than he is?

pocco · 13th April 2012, 13:13

If he's too expensive for the Italian clubs then it is very safe to say that we won't be paying it either. This has got City written all over it with statements like that.

pocco · 13th April 2012, 13:15

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

Do you think the chemistry between him, Lavezzi and Cavani makes him look better than he is?

That'd be worrying as he's still looked average when I've seen him with those two.

SilentWitness · 13th April 2012, 13:20

Maybe he is the next Ibra in the sense that some people only see him when he is decent and some only see him when he is poor. I watched a fair few games of Napoli around the time of the Chelsea tie and he looked better than average but still not a top class player imo. I'm not writing him off but at 24 his days are running thin to say he has "potential to be", next 2 seasons will be key to tell if he can step it up a gear or not.

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 13:24

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Originally Posted by SilentWitness

Do you think the chemistry between him, Lavezzi and Cavani makes him look better than he is?

No I'd say it make him look worst, he was at his best in terms of performances when he was the main creative drive. In the trident now he is hampered and lost a lot of what made him first catch my eye which was this incredible force like Nedved. Yet as I say stat wise hes better than anyone at the same age.

RedRover · 13th April 2012, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Jimy_Hills_Chin

Gambit

You seem to be nothing short of obsessed with this fellow, yet when I have seen him he has always been underwhelming. Admittedly I have only seen him play about ten times. What am I missing?

I don't get it either - Watched him maybe 10 -15 times including at the World Cup and wasn't that impressed. Cavani looks a very good forward and for me Lavezzi has looked better than Hamsik.

Seems to have a good engine but not particularly creative, nor technically all that great.

From what I've seen I personally suspect he looks good in Serie A as he has a bit of pace but may not look as good in the high tempo PL. Seems to have been linked with PL clubs for years but nothing ever happens - perhaps just an agent trying to talk up a move.

Brwned · 13th April 2012, 15:55

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Originally Posted by gambit28

...as I've said previously his stats match up better than anyones even Scholes at a similar age.

They do? Not so sure about that myself. Hamsik's first season at Napoli was Scholesy's breakthrough season with us at the age of 20, and here's how it went:

Scholes
94/95 (20) - 7 goals in 10 starts (+15 sub)
95/96 (21) - 14 goals in 15 starts (+13 sub)
96/97 (22) - 6 goals in 21 starts (+12 sub)
97/98 (23) - 10 goals in 37 starts (+5 sub)

Hamsik

07/08 (20) - 9 goals in 34 starts (+3 sub)
08/09 (21) - 9 goals in 31 starts (+ 1 sub)
09/10 (22) - 12 goals in 37 starts
10/11 (23) - 11 goals in 36 starts (+ 1 sub)

4 more goals in 65 more starts (or 25 more appearances) isn't really any better.

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Brwned

They do? Not so sure about that myself. Hamsik's first season at Napoli was Scholesy's breakthrough season with us at the age of 20, and here's how it went:

Scholes
94/95 (20) - 7 goals in 10 starts (+15 sub)
95/96 (21) - 14 goals in 15 starts (+13 sub)
96/97 (22) - 6 goals in 21 starts (+12 sub)
97/98 (23) - 10 goals in 37 starts (+5 sub)

Hamsik

07/08 (20) - 9 goals in 34 starts (+3 sub)
08/09 (21) - 9 goals in 31 starts (+ 1 sub)
09/10 (22) - 12 goals in 37 starts
10/11 (23) - 11 goals in 36 starts (+ 1 sub)

4 more goals in 65 more starts (or 25 more appearances) isn't really any better.

As Hamsik cemented himself as a first team regular early on and his influence in the games much greater for Napoli to Scholes (and in comparison to now) at the same age I'd say yeah it is. Don't get me wrong Scholes became a god shortly afterwards and wether Hamsik could reach that same level is questionable but he won't in his current position at his current team.

gambit28 · 13th April 2012, 20:17

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Originally Posted by RedRover

I don't get it either - Watched him maybe 10 -15 times including at the World Cup and wasn't that impressed. Cavani looks a very good forward and for me Lavezzi has looked better than Hamsik.

Hamsik isn't a forward.

RedRover · 13th April 2012, 20:48

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Hamsik isn't a forward.

Last time I watched them all they were banging on about on the radio was this 3-4-3 formation with Lavezzi, Hamsik and Cavani attacking - they don't play 4-4-2 as far as I can see and Cavani plays up to so Lavezzi and Hamsik seem to do pretty much the same job if the team wants to have any balance at all.

My point stands - not an outstanding passer, not an outstanding playmaker and not an outstanding goalscorer.

Obviously a talented player but not really sure where he's fit in at United. For me we need a deep lying player who can keep the ball - we have plenty in the final third.

I also have concerns about players with bundles of energy in Serie A - seem to look a lot better there where the style is more slow build up and focus on the technical rather than in the PL where it's all hustle and bustle, pace and power.

Adam-Utd · 20th April 2012, 08:38

Has officially signed a new 3 year contract at Napoli

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9th January 2012, 14:29	#521 (permalink)
Anduin Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Magical Manchester United. Posts: 3,377	Played as a right-sided forward in a 3-4-3 system last night. He was quite good, but he's not the answer to our gaping hole in central midfield. In fact he isn't even a central midfielder.

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antohan First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Montevideo Posts: 5,919	His agent is a cnut. We would get fleeced and he wouldn't be here long either. Forget it.

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red2deadboy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,748	I'd rather we got Gotze TBH, well i'd like us to get both so as to provide flair for both midfield and left wing....but understand we are watching the pennies these days.

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pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3,608	If he's too expensive for the Italian clubs then it is very safe to say that we won't be paying it either. This has got City written all over it with statements like that.

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SilentWitness Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland. Posts: 1,466	Maybe he is the next Ibra in the sense that some people only see him when he is decent and some only see him when he is poor. I watched a fair few games of Napoli around the time of the Chelsea tie and he looked better than average but still not a top class player imo. I'm not writing him off but at 24 his days are running thin to say he has "potential to be", next 2 seasons will be key to tell if he can step it up a gear or not.

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