Miguel Veloso

Anduin · 16th May 2008, 20:13

Arsenal in for Veloso (and so are we probably):

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Miguel Veloso's agent claims an English side has come close to matching the Sporting starlet's release clause.

The 21-year-old defensive midfielder is a rising talent in Portugal and both Manchester United and Arsenal have been credited with an interest.

Although Veloso has a £20million release clause in his contract, his agent Paulo Barbosa says a club from England has bid near that mark.

Should the youngster's clause be met he could be the latest in a long line of talents to leave the country, such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani and Anderson, who have all joined The Red Devils.

"There have been several contacts and several offers from England," Barbosa told the News of the World.

"I won't name the clubs but one of them was not far from his buy-out clause.

"If there's agreement from Sporting and the player, it's possible for him to leave.

"But there's no pressure or desire that it should happen yet."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...800927,00.html

Another source (same one which first claimed our Anderson/Nani deals last year) says Veloso could join Arsenal:

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Arsenal segue Miguel Veloso
FILIPE ALEXANDRE DIAS/RUI MIGUEL GOMES

O Arsenal, orientado pelo francês Arsène Wenger, está interessado em adquirir o passe de Miguel Veloso e poderá mesmo, segundo O JOGO apurou, avançar nas Page Rankingóximas semanas para a contratação do médio leonino.

Admirador confesso das qualidades de Miguel Veloso, o técnico e manager do clube londrino olha para o camisola 24 dos leões como sendo o jogador com os atributos técnicos e tácticos ideais para colmatar a vaga deixada em aberto no meio-campo dos "gunners", após a confirmação de que Flamini irá fazer parte dos quadros da formação italiana do AC Milan na temporada 2008/09.

Neste sentido, o Arsenal, sabendo do interesse de outros clubes ingleses interessados no concurso do internacional luso, nomeadamente, do Manchester City, está mesmo disposto a pagar 30 milhões de euros - o valor da cláusula de rescisão que consta no contrato que liga o médio-defensivo aos leões até 2013 - para fortalecer a sua equipa no ataque à conquista da Premirer League. Segundo O JOGO apurou, a vontade dos responsáveis do emblema londrino é mesmo a de concretizar uma grande contratação nas Page Rankingóximas semanas, a qual terá como premissa o colmatar de uma lacuna existente no esquema habitualmente utilizado pelo técnico francês desde que ingressou, na época 1996/97, no Arsenal. É que Arsène Wenger sempre montou as suas equipas tendo por base a utilização de um pivô defensivo na zona intermediária, função superiormente desempenhada entre 1996/97 e 2004/05 pelo francês Patrick Vieira que, posteriormente, foi substituído por Gilberto Silva e mais recentemente por Flamini.

www.ojogo.pt

Hope it fits in this thread, did not want to open a new one.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:17

Veloso to Arsenal? ...fuck..I sure hope not

Name Changed · 16th May 2008, 20:18

We don´t really need Veloso. We have Hargreaves, Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson and Scholes all for cm.

Possebom is coming through.

I´d only take him if he is better than Carrick. From what I´ve seen, he aint.

I think we should concentrate on a striker and a rb. Any extra should be used on scooping up young promising talent.

Sultan · 16th May 2008, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Veloso to Arsenal? ...fuck..I sure hope not

Makes sense.

Straight swap for Flamini.

Anduin · 16th May 2008, 20:23

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Originally Posted by weso26

I´d only take him if he is better than Carrick. From what I´ve seen, he aint.

He only turned 22 last weekend and looks like an exceptional talent. I'd take him in a heartbeat, Scholes will retire within the next three seasons, Fletcher might want to move on and we all know that Fergie got it absolutely right this season with five midfielders around. Squad depth wins you titles, so I wouldn't mind having another central midfielder at the team. Problem is the fee, I doubt we would pay anything close to £20m. More like £10m now and another £7m or so depending on appearances and success.

REd FUn DevIl · 16th May 2008, 20:24

I dont care if Veloso goes to Arsenal or Jupiter. We dont need him and we wont be signing players to avoid them joining our rivals, thats stupid.

MrMarcello · 16th May 2008, 20:26

Can't imagine the club spending 15-20m on a guy to play 5th choice midfield.

REd FUn DevIl · 16th May 2008, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Anduin

He only turned 21 last weekend and looks like an exceptional talent. I'd take him in a heartbeat, Scholes will retire within the next three seasons, Fletcher might want to move on and we all know that Fergie got it absolutely right this season with five midfielders around. Squad depth wins you titles, so I wouldn't mind having another central midfielder at the team. Problem is the fee, I doubt we would pay anything close to £20m. More like £10m now and another £7m or so depending on appearances and success.

You want Fletcher to move dont you? So you can wank on Veloso. If you pay the 20 m there is no problem mate. 5 midfielders already on the team and Veloso is not different to what we have which means he wont be dropping any of the ones we currently have to the bench.

From what i have seen of him he is good but he is the same position as Carrick and we have many players on that position. We also have Possebon who is pretty good and will get promoted to the first team in a couples of seasons.

REd FUn DevIl · 16th May 2008, 20:31

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

Can't imagine the club spending 15-20m on a guy to play 5th choice midfield.

Exactly. We need to spend what we have in getting a marvellous striker as that is the only thing we are missing right now. We need to get some pressure off Tevez and Rooney, they need another player to help them in a long season.

Van Piorsing · 16th May 2008, 20:33

United didn't even stated, which striker they will try to sign, yet... Veloso can wait.

He would be more happy in United with Cristiano, Nani and Anderson than in Arsenal, but if he want to go there... not a big problem for us.

With quality British midfielders like Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves and Fletcher, we're very good prepared for Premiership next season, imo.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Sultan

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Straight swap for Flamini.

Not really. They'd be getting a young Emanuel Petit to partner Fabregas. Talk of a serious upgrade.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:36

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Originally Posted by weso26

............ Any extra should be used on scooping up young promising talent.

So according to you Veloso is neither young nor promising or what?

Van Piorsing · 16th May 2008, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Not really. They'd be getting a young Emanuel Petit to partner Fabregas. Talk of a serious upgrade.

We don't know that for sure, Chief.

We don't even know if Veloso wants to sign them. I think he would be more happy to play in one team with his old mates from Sporting and he propably knows that, too.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Anduin

He only turned 22 last weekend and looks like an exceptional talent. I'd take him in a heartbeat,.........

I'd take him regardless. We have already showed we can use 5 midfielders. He would replace Scholes in our squad nicely once Scholes retires. .

KeyserSoze · 16th May 2008, 20:39

How can you compare Petit a world cup winner to Veloso. They are not even similar in style either from what i have seen.

Anduin · 16th May 2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by REd FUn DevIl

You want Fletcher to move dont you? So you can wank on Veloso. If you pay the 20 m there is no problem mate. 5 midfielders already on the team and Veloso is not different to what we have which means he wont be dropping any of the ones we currently have to the bench.

No fucking way I want to see Fletch move on. I'd love to see him getting more time on the pitch, he has improved tremendously this season. Big game player.
I never said we should pay a ridiculous amount of money for Veloso and I never said Fletcher should go so, to use your phrase, I'll be able "to wank on Veloso" - I just said that it's possible Fletcher might want to leave, mainly because he turned 24 lately and may want first team action. Jesus, the caf is a weird place sometimes

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

How can you compare Petit a world cup winner to Veloso. They are not even similar in style either from what i have seen.

The bolded part sums it all up. I'm not you. That's why and how I can compare them that way.

Sam#1 · 16th May 2008, 20:44

Not needed in the slightest.

KeyserSoze · 16th May 2008, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

The bolded part sums it all up. I'm not you. That's why and how I can compare them that way.

That does not sum it up at all. You are not a scout, i guarantee i have seen as much of him as you have and he is nothing lke Petit IMO.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Van Piorsing

We don't know that for sure, Chief.

We don't even know if Veloso wants to sign them. I think he would be more happy to play in one team with his old mates from Sporting and he propably knows that, too.

I sure hope so

carpy · 16th May 2008, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

That does not sum it up at all. You are not a scout, i guarantee i have seen as much of him as you have and he is nothing lke Petit IMO.

But he has a ponytail...

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Keyzer Soze

That does not sum it up at all. You are not a scout, i guarantee i have seen as much of him as you have and he is nothing lke Petit IMO.

Hence it sums it up perfectly. I'm not you. So I'm failing to see why you seem to think it's a crime for me to see what you don't. Being a scout has zilch to do with that. I simply see what you don't because we are not the same people. It's you who questioned how I could make the comparison remember?

Sam#1 · 16th May 2008, 21:01

The word on the grapevine seems to be that the two English clubs are Arsenal and Chelsea, not ourselves.

MrMarcello · 16th May 2008, 21:03

Chelsea have a clear lack of midfielders so that's probably true.

REd FUn DevIl · 16th May 2008, 21:07

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

Chelsea have a clear lack of midfielders so that's probably true.

The same as us. We are in a desperate need of midfielders.

KeyserSoze · 16th May 2008, 21:11

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

It's you who questioned how I could make the comparison remember?

Yes i did and the reason for my questioning was not based on their abilities and playing style as you are correct in saying this is open to interpretation.

However, i think saying he is a young Emmanuel Petit and an upgrade over Flamini has no foundation in terms of performance. Petit is a proven world class player with tons of medals while Flamini is an accomplished premiership player. Veloso is neither, he has talent yes but he needs to prove it outside of the portuguese league or champions league performances against Vieira etc.

JazzG · 16th May 2008, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

Not really. They'd be getting a young Emanuel Petit to partner Fabregas. Talk of a serious upgrade.

Are you comparing him with Petit because they both have lovely pony tails or because of style of play?

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th May 2008, 21:53

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Originally Posted by JazzG

Are you comparing him with Petit because they both have lovely pony tails or because of style of play?

hee hee.

I care nothing for his hair. Though a pony tail is involved

16th May 2008, 20:17	#402 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 19,426	Veloso to Arsenal? ...fuck..I sure hope not

16th May 2008, 20:18	#403 (permalink)
Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 3,802	We don´t really need Veloso. We have Hargreaves, Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson and Scholes all for cm. Possebom is coming through. I´d only take him if he is better than Carrick. From what I´ve seen, he aint. I think we should concentrate on a striker and a rb. Any extra should be used on scooping up young promising talent.

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REd FUn DevIl First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I Love Sugarcult Posts: 12,031	I dont care if Veloso goes to Arsenal or Jupiter. We dont need him and we wont be signing players to avoid them joining our rivals, thats stupid.

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MrMarcello First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Saha's hospital room Posts: 18,690	Can't imagine the club spending 15-20m on a guy to play 5th choice midfield.

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Van Piorsing Lost his light sabre Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Polska Posts: 10,036	United didn't even stated, which striker they will try to sign, yet... Veloso can wait. He would be more happy in United with Cristiano, Nani and Anderson than in Arsenal, but if he want to go there... not a big problem for us. With quality British midfielders like Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves and Fletcher, we're very good prepared for Premiership next season, imo.

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KeyserSoze First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Way I Hear It Soze's Some Kind Of Butcher Posts: 6,696	How can you compare Petit a world cup winner to Veloso. They are not even similar in style either from what i have seen.

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Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :( Like being stabbed in the heart.....It just won't stop hurting :( Posts: 12,920	Not needed in the slightest.

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Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :( Like being stabbed in the heart.....It just won't stop hurting :( Posts: 12,920	The word on the grapevine seems to be that the two English clubs are Arsenal and Chelsea, not ourselves.

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MrMarcello First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Saha's hospital room Posts: 18,690	Chelsea have a clear lack of midfielders so that's probably true.

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