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Old 30th September 2007, 13:39   #41 (permalink)
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Old 30th September 2007, 13:45   #42 (permalink)
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Another sporting player?

I'm suprised it's Veloso though, was thinking Moutinho would be our next target



But anyway, if this is true, it should be a good buy. We could actually look somewhere other than Portugal though.
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Old 30th September 2007, 14:03   #43 (permalink)
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Veloso: Sensational to play for Man Utd
Miguel Veloso wants to be the next Sporting Lisbon star to join Manchester United.

United and Arsenal are among European giants chasing the young Portugal international, who could leave Sporting in January.

"To join United is a dream for any player," Veloso told the News of the World.

"I'm happy in Portugal, but if a chance to join such a big club like them came along I would jump at it.

"Nani speaks sensationally about United and it would be sensational for me to play there with him and Cristiano."
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Old 30th September 2007, 14:44   #44 (permalink)
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Old 30th September 2007, 14:47   #45 (permalink)
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have we signed him yet?
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Old 30th September 2007, 15:17   #46 (permalink)
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Sign him up, Scholes and Carrick need someone to challenge their place, both have been awful.
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Old 30th September 2007, 15:20   #47 (permalink)
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Another sporting player?

I'm suprised it's Veloso though, was thinking Moutinho would be our next target



But anyway, if this is true, it should be a good buy. We could actually look somewhere other than Portugal though.
We don't need Moutinho, and he isn't as good as people make out in my view anyway.
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Old 30th September 2007, 15:43   #48 (permalink)
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Sign him up, Scholes and Carrick need someone to challenge their place, both have been awful.
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Hargreaves?
Anderson?

Even Fletcher is worth a shout.
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Old 30th September 2007, 15:58   #49 (permalink)
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Probably will be though, especially if he moved now. He's young and has the raw qualities.
Spot on. He looked impressive against us in the CL and for Portugal in the Under 21's. Seems to have the ability to marshall the midfield.

It's better to buy players as young as possible to give them chance to adapt. It makes financial sense as well - buy them now and risk a few million or watch them blossom and pay a fortune in a few years.
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Old 30th September 2007, 16:01   #50 (permalink)
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Spot on. He looked impressive against us in the CL and for Portugal in the Under 21's. Seems to have the ability to marshall the midfield.

It's better to buy players as young as possible to give them chance to adapt. It makes financial sense as well - buy them now and risk a few million or watch them blossom and pay a fortune in a few years.
Agree, but even that has to stop at some point. We've just bought for the future, now we have to sit back and watch that future grow, instead of constantly adding to them.
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Old 30th September 2007, 16:01   #51 (permalink)
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If Veloso is a midfielder then we really dont need him. Our midfield is already well stocked.
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Old 30th September 2007, 16:19   #52 (permalink)
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If Veloso is a midfielder then we really dont need him. Our midfield is already well stocked.
He's as comfortable in central defence as he is in centre midfield.
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He's as comfortable in central defence as he is in centre midfield.
Whats the point in bringing in a central defender when we already have VIDIC, Rio, VIDIC, Wes, VIDIC, Pique, VIDIC, Evans, VIDIC, Mikey.... and have I said VIDIC?
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Whats the point in bringing in a central defender when we already have VIDIC, Rio, VIDIC, Wes, VIDIC, Pique, VIDIC, Evans, VIDIC, Mikey.... and have I said VIDIC?
Ask the manager not me!
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H e can act as cover for left or right back.
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Old 30th September 2007, 20:08   #57 (permalink)
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Just had a thought...if we are looking to bring in Veloso for 6M, what's the odds Pique is on his way out for more? That wouldn't be a bad bit of business IMO, it would stop someone like Arse getting him.
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Old 30th September 2007, 20:27   #58 (permalink)
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Old 30th September 2007, 20:28   #59 (permalink)
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There is no way sporting will let go veloso for less than his buyout clause and that is 15mp...its funny to read when the 6mp or 8mp values keeps popping up....sporting never sells player on the cheap...

There was talk we would buy nani for 8 mp but for how much did we bought nani,double that amount,same thing happened with ronaldo,so guys dont think sporting will sell one of their best players for just 8 mp.....
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Whats the point in bringing in a central defender when we already have VIDIC, Rio, VIDIC, Wes, VIDIC, Pique, VIDIC, Evans, VIDIC, Mikey.... and have I said VIDIC?
We had the same sort of options last year and look what happend near the end of the campaign, nothing wrong with extra number ask Chelsea!! they sure missed Huth last year
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We had the same sort of options last year and look what happend near the end of the campaign, nothing wrong with extra number ask Chelsea!! they sure missed Huth last year
We didn't have either Evans or Pique last year.
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Old 30th September 2007, 21:29   #63 (permalink)
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We had the same sort of options last year and look what happend near the end of the campaign, nothing wrong with extra number ask Chelsea!! they sure missed Huth last year
We lost 5 of 8 defenders last season, freakish really, no need for another centerback. If we are to buy defenders its fullbacks we need.
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Old 30th September 2007, 21:48   #64 (permalink)
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If Veloso is a midfielder then we really dont need him. Our midfield is already well stocked.
i'm not too sure.

we have Hargreaves, Scholesy, Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson, Gibson and, at a pinch, maybe Pique and O'Shea (who really has no business playing in CM).

of these, only Hargreaves and Carrick may give us genuine defensive ability in CM. Pique perhaps, but i'd rather he played in his natural position.

we may have many options in CM, but they are not balanced.
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we may have many options in CM, but they are not balanced.
Two defensive in Hargreaves and Carrick, two attacking in Scholes and Anderson, Fletch is an all rounder, Gibson a talent, we've enough in central midfield.
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Old 30th September 2007, 23:30   #66 (permalink)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOlfSfy7Ks

Veloso free kick. Actually very good. And he scored on free kick against Israel too.

He was good against United. United quality? I don't know. I don't think Fergie will buy him.
Even if he did come to us..
do u think he'll take freekicks.. when Ronaldo is still around..
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Old 1st October 2007, 00:17   #67 (permalink)
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Two defensive in Hargreaves and Carrick, two attacking in Scholes and Anderson, Fletch is an all rounder, Gibson a talent, we've enough in central midfield.
i'm sorry, but Carrick isn't a proper defensive midfielder; he is more like a deep-lying playmaker ala Pirlo, and even Milan recognise that they need Gattusso and Emerson or even Ambrosini.

Gibson is unproven at this level. i still remember we thought Jones was the bollocks and then....
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i'm sorry, but Carrick isn't a proper defensive midfielder; he is more like a deep-lying playmaker ala Pirlo, and even Milan recognise that they need Gattusso and Emerson or even Ambrosini.

Gibson is unproven at this level. i still remember we thought Jones was the bollocks and then....
He quite obviously is a DM, thats what he did last season and he was fantastic, being able to pass doesn't mean he can't defend
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Old 1st October 2007, 06:44   #69 (permalink)
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Two defensive in Hargreaves and Carrick, two attacking in Scholes and Anderson, Fletch is an all rounder, Gibson a talent, we've enough in central midfield.
Agreed.


There is no place for Veloso currently.
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We had the same sort of options last year and look what happend near the end of the campaign, nothing wrong with extra number ask Chelsea!! they sure missed Huth last year
You can (and must) have quality cover for your first team but no one, not even Chelsea can cater for an injury crisis of that proportion. We dont need Veloso. We currently have Gaz - Vidic - Rio - Evra as first team, 4 Internationals as covers (Wes, Mickey, Evans and OShea) and another 4 promising talent (Bardsley, Pique, carthcart - simpson) as third line
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