Rene Adler

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 13:28

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Manchester United verkündete Donnerstag, dass ihr 40-jähriger Torwart-Star Edwin van der Sar im Sommer seine tolle Karriere beenden wird. „Wir planen“, verriet United-Coach Sir Alex Ferguson, „dass das seine letzte Saison ist.“

Nun dreht sich das Personal-Karussell. Mitten drin: Bayers Nationalkeeper René Adler.

Nach EXPRESS-Informationen ist der 25-Jährige ein ganz heißer Kandidat auf die Nachfolge van der Sars.

ManU hat Bayers Nummer eins in den letzten Wochen bereits einige Mal beobachten lassen. Der englische Top-Klub hat extra für das van der Sar-Erbe einen Torwart-Scout engagiert, der in Europa nach einem geeigneten Kandidaten Ausschau hält. Pikant: Adler, dessen Vertrag bei Bayer bis 2012 läuft, hat eine Ausstiegsklausel für den Fall, dass ManU ihn verpflichten will.

Für eine festgeschriebene Ablöse von rund 24 Millionen € kann er Leverkusen verlassen. Bayers Sportchef Rudi Völler sagte: „Wir wollen René selbstverständlich halten und reden mit ihm. Aber wenn er ein Angebot eines Klubs wie Manchester erhält, können wir nicht mehr mithalten.“

Neben Adler hat ManU fünf weitere Kandidaten auf der Liste. Auch darunter: Schalkes Manuel Neuer.
Der wird allerdings auch von Bayern München gejagt. Viel spricht dafür, dass Neuer bereits Klarheit über einen Wechsel nach München erzielt hat.

Aber auch der spanische Aufsteiger Sergio Asengo (21) vom spanischen Europapokalsieger Atletico Madrid darf sich Hoffnungen machen auf ein Engagement bei Manchester.

Das Rennen um das van der Sar-Erbe hat begonnen...

Van der Sar hört auf: Manchester hat Adler im Visier | Bayer 04 Leverkusen*- EXPRESS

- United have watched several times
- He can leave Leverkusen for 24 million € (Buy-out clause)
- He`ll leave Leverkusen if United want him (according to Rudi Völler)

RonaldoVII · 24th December 2010, 13:31

-He's a beast on FM.

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 13:32

I think he`s better than Neuer.

And I know Adler is a Manchester United supporter (Of course that means not much in professional football, for example Solskajer is a Liverpool supporter).

RDCR07 · 24th December 2010, 13:35

How much is 24M Euros in Pounds?

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 13:37

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Originally Posted by rdcr07

how much is 24m euros in pounds?

20 000 000

Flying Fox · 24th December 2010, 13:38

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Originally Posted by RDCR07

How much is 24M Euros in Pounds?

slightly less...about 20.3 GBP

Bargain.

RDCR07 · 24th December 2010, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Flying Fox

slightly less...about 20.3 GBP

Bargain.

Not exactly. When was the last time a team spent more than 20M for a GK? I know Adler is one of the best GK's around but that amount is still expensive even for him.

Flying Fox · 24th December 2010, 13:43

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Originally Posted by RDCR07

Not exactly. When was the last time a team spent more than 20M for a GK? I know Adler is one of the best GK's around but that amount is still expensive even for him.

It was a tad tongue in cheek

cj_sparky · 24th December 2010, 14:05

De Gea would cost less, would be better Value.

RDCR07 · 24th December 2010, 14:08

I would rather spend more and get Adler than spend a little less(maybe 2-5M) and get De Gea.

Sarni · 24th December 2010, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I think he`s better than Neuer.

And I know Adler is a Manchester United supporter (Of course that means not much in professional football, for example Solskajer is a Liverpool supporter).

Used to be you mean, I have no doubt he is a United fan now.

Claymore · 24th December 2010, 14:41

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

To have a great goalkeeper in the team is very important.

20m is a fair price for Adler and german goalies are always fantastic.

Epic · 24th December 2010, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

german goalies are always fantastic.

Jens Lehmann sending season's greetings!

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Epic

Jens Lehmann sending season's greetings!

I think he was a very good goalkeeper for Arsenal.

mswiss · 24th December 2010, 15:18

YouTube - René Adler - The Best Saves [HD]

mandatory

wr8_utd · 24th December 2010, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I think he was a very good goalkeeper for Arsenal.

At times

Crumpsall Red · 24th December 2010, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I think he`s better than Neuer.

And I know Adler is a Manchester United supporter (Of course that means not much in professional football, for example Solskajer is a Liverpool supporter).

Solskjaer was a Liverpool supporter.

Ole'sbodyguard · 24th December 2010, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

I have not seen alot of Adler but the fact that he was rated slightly ahead of Neuer before the World Cup suggests he is a very good keeper.

There are not many top keepers in the world and there normally taken for. If Adler has the potential to be one of the best in the world given time and give United a decade of service, 20m is fuck all to pay when you look at the bigger picture.

This is exactly the type of keeper we should be looking for to replace VDS IMO and 20m is not to high a price to pay for it. It would be a wiser strategy than throwing Lindegaard straight in as number one IMO.

Aporkalypse · 24th December 2010, 15:27

I think we would have to wait for De Gea and probably have to face competition from a lot of top teams for him. If Adler is available right now or in the summer for the speculated price I can see us going for him.

RDCR07 · 24th December 2010, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Ole'sbodyguard

I have not seen alot of Adler but the fact that he was rated slightly ahead of Neuer before the World Cup suggests he is a very good keeper.

Rene Adler was supposed to Germany's number one for the World Cup. Due to his injury, he could not take part in it and hence Neuer was handed the #1 jersey.

Ole'sbodyguard · 24th December 2010, 15:43

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Originally Posted by RDCR07

Rene Adler was supposed to Germany's number one for the World Cup. Due to his injury, he could not take part in it and hence Neuer was handed the #1 jersey.

That's pretty much exactly what I have said in the post you have quoted without mentioning the injury that kept Adler out of the World Cup.

Jaap · 24th December 2010, 16:46

Adler has - especially due to his injuries - had a mediocre last season, to be honest.

Pundits put him above Manuel Neuer when he made his debut in 2007, but the Schalke goalkeeper has overtaken him in the last two seasons, putting in superb performances in week after week, looking more consistent than Adler.

It remains to be seen how Adler performs this year - should he return to his heroics of 2007/2008 then he is certainly a candidate who should be looked at.

MrMarcello · 24th December 2010, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

He paid 8m for Barthez which is probably 15-20m in today's climate.

SecondFig · 24th December 2010, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

I never understand why people think that - having a great keeper is surely as, if not more, important than having a great striker

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 18:50

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Originally Posted by SecondFig

I never understand why people think that - having a great keeper is surely as, if not more, important than having a great striker

Claymore is probably spanish.

Like i´ve said a great goalkeeper is the basis for a sucessful team.

032Devil · 24th December 2010, 18:53

Since we bought Hargreaves from Bayern, German clubs seem to think United are a soft touch.

Georgie Best · 24th December 2010, 21:35

I also know that Adler has said in the past that he is a Manchester United fan. As this hopefully can end up being a 15 year signing, that might be a good thing. I know Neuer has been more heavily linked to Manchester United, but it has been a tight fight between the two for the German spot, Adler was in front ahead of the South African World Cup but were stopped by injuries. I think van der Sar's replacement should be one of the two, both seem very talented. The neck in neck battle can be healthy for the two as well as they will have to perform to become Germany's number one. A rivalry whom might make them the best couple of goalkeepers in the world.

Georgie Best · 24th December 2010, 21:40

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Originally Posted by cj_sparky

De Gea would cost less, would be better Value.

No, he would not. In my mind being great in Spain proves nothing, personally I think Lindegaard will give De Gea a fight for his money, in England you have to handle crosses. You never know if De Gea can do that because Spanish goalkeepers are far more protected by the referee than in England. The German league is more similar to England at that. Germany always have a candidate for being the best goalkeeper in the world as well... Neuer and Adler are both better candidates than De Gea. Even though they both are only 25, both of them will have almost 150 Bundesliga matches experience after this season.

PS: I think Lindegaard might be talented enough to fight Adler/Neuer as well, but you never know... There simply is no data, but he is the best goalkeeper I have seen in Norway. Thordstvedt left the league before I started to watch football, he is the only better goalkeeper I know of, and he became very good.

Sean_RedDevil · 24th December 2010, 21:55

They Bayer Leverkusen fans saying that Adler will probably leave the club in the summer (Contract till 2012) and Manchester United is his best option, he wouldn`t go to Bayern Munich and he loves England/the Premier League/Manchester United.
They`re saying too that Leverkusen have already a replacement for Adler (The current number 2 Giefer - Another great youth product and U 21 goalkeeper of Germany) and the clubs needs money for some other positions in the team.

Suedesi · 25th December 2010, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I think he`s better than Neuer.

And I know Adler is a Manchester United supporter (Of course that means not much in professional football, for example Solskajer is a Liverpool supporter).

Interesting - everyone else I've talked to maintains the opposite.

Georgie Best · 25th December 2010, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Suedesi

Interesting - everyone else I've talked to maintains the opposite.

I don't know, but I know that Adler was considered Germanys #1 before the world cup, Neuer only got the chance after Adler got injured. So Loew might agree with that too... Neuer has certainly been a higher profiled in the media. Both would be a great replacement for van der Sar after this season. Adler and Lindegaard would be a great duo. Interesting to hear a Germans opinion.

That Adler is a Manchester United fan is neither a negative. It makes getting homesick and becoming want away less likeley, because hopefully whoever we sign, if its de Gea, Lloris, Neuer, Adler perhaps even Lindegaard will develop into the best goalkeeper in the world. Because a club like us needs to have one of the very best in the world.

Sean_RedDevil · 25th December 2010, 00:44

I think Adler is only 1-2% better than Neuer (It`s only my feeling), both are on the same level right now and no doubt both are on the way to the world-class level.

To be honest i don`t care if we get Adler or Neuer.........i´m 100% sure one of them is the Manchester United goalkeeper for the next decade.
De Gea or Lloris are very good goalkeepers too but we wouldn`t make a mistake with a german goalkeeper.

Georgie Best · 25th December 2010, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I think Adler is only 1-2% better than Neuer (It`s only my feeling), both are on the same level right now and no doubt both are on the way to the world-class level.

To be honest i don`t care if we get Adler or Neuer.........i´m 100% sure one of them is the Manchester United goalkeeper for the next decade.
De Gea or Lloris are very good goalkeepers too but we wouldn`t make a mistake with a german goalkeeper.

Its about time that United sign their first German, I don't think we ever had one? I also think its likely to happen this summer, van der Sar is retiring - those two are the best bet both are young and experienced options. Akinfeev is too short, De Gea is too soon (personal oppinion) and I don't faith in Lloris (don't really know why, bad in the World Cup, no faith). No other country has the goalkeeping history of Germany neither, they always have one among the worlds best.

I think we will sign someone too. We have never been linked to as many German/Bundesliga players like now. A couple of Bayern Munchen players are as always linked, we have been linked at least three or four Dortmund players, that playmaker at Nurnberg, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Dzeko etcetera. It seems like our scouts are taking a good look at the Bundesliga this season. Adler and some talented midifelders this summer.

RDCR07 · 25th December 2010, 01:38

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Originally Posted by Georgie Best

Akinfeev is too short, De Gea is too soon (personal oppinion) and I don't faith in Lloris (don't really know why, bad in the World Cup, no faith). No other country has the goalkeeping history of Germany neither, they always have one among the worlds best.

Akinfeev is 6ft 1in. Adler is 6ft 3in. Neuer is 6ft 4in. You know if he is 6ft 1in, he is not short. Casillas is only 5ft 11in. Oliver Khan was 6ft 2in. Julio Cesar is 6ft 1in.

Georgie Best · 25th December 2010, 01:55

Iker Casillas is fucking overrated too. He would struggle in England, with no refs to defend him in the box, not to mention that the guy simply is to small. We could never know this, as he will be Real Madrid for life, but overrated. I think Cesar would have a harder time in England as well.

I want a big guy, someone over 1.90 centimeters. Akinfeev is 1.85, Adler is 1.91, Neuer is 1.94... the numbers are small, but the difference still matters. Against Jones, Carroll or Drogba on a corner kick that can be the difference between a conceded goal, and a save. Barthez was short, world class abroad, decent in England, van der Sar is tall and brilliant in England. We want someone with size, not some midget from Russia.

Best bet: go German.

Sean_RedDevil · 25th December 2010, 02:01

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Originally Posted by Georgie Best

Iker Casillas is fucking overrated too. He would struggle in England, with no refs to defend him in the box, not to mention that the guy simply is to small. We could never know this, as he will be Real Madrid for life, but overrated. I think Cesar would have a harder time in England as well.

I want a big guy, someone over 1.90 centimeters. Akinfeev is 1.85, Adler is 1.91, Neuer is 1.94... the numbers are small, but the difference still matters. Against Jones, Carroll or Drogba on a corner kick that can be the difference between a conceded goal, and a save. Barthez was short, world class abroad, decent in England, van der Sar is tall and brilliant in England. We want someone with size, not some midget from Russia.

Best bet: go German.

I don`t think Casillas is overrated..........but i agree 100% with the rest of this post.

R_Kelly · 25th December 2010, 02:03

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Originally Posted by cj_sparky

De Gea would cost less, would be better Value.

I'm not saying Adler is better, but if he is then why would you object to spending the extra for him? Why does the comparative transfer fee matter if we get the best man for the job?

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper

only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

'Just a keeper'? This mentality confuses me, the goalkeeper is a monumentally important player, and has to be far far more consistent in his level of performance than any striker. It is also a more specialist role, with far fewer names to chose from, so really if anything keepers should cost more than any other position. Obviously there are other factors, but there should be no adversity to spending big money on a keeper if he's the right one.

RDCR07 · 25th December 2010, 02:16

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Originally Posted by Georgie Best

Iker Casillas is fucking overrated too. He would struggle in England, with no refs to defend him in the box, not to mention that the guy simply is to small. We could never know this, as he will be Real Madrid for life, but overrated. I think Cesar would have a harder time in England as well.

I want a big guy, someone over 1.90 centimeters. Akinfeev is 1.85, Adler is 1.91, Neuer is 1.94... the numbers are small, but the difference still matters. Against Jones, Carroll or Drogba on a corner kick that can be the difference between a conceded goal, and a save. Barthez was short, world class abroad, decent in England, van der Sar is tall and brilliant in England. We want someone with size, not some midget from Russia.

Best bet: go German.

Your posts never disappoint. I always have a good laugh reading some of your posts.

Georgie Best · 25th December 2010, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Sean_RedDevil

I don`t think Casillas is overrated..........but i agree 100% with the rest of this post.

Don't get me wrong. Iker Casillas is a very good goalkeeper, top 20, perhaps even top 10 in the world. Many considers Iker Casillas to be the best goalkeeper in the world, that is why he is overrated. He will never be the best goalkeeper in the world, he has never been the best goalkeeper in the world. He does not deserve to go on the shelf as Lev Yashin, Preud'omme, Schmeichel or Kahn when he retires as one of the all time greats. Many considers him to be better than Buffon... that is ludicrous. Personally, I agree with among others Bruce Grobbelar that he is probably not even the best Spanish goalkeeper.

Edwin van der Sar is a far better goalkeeper than Iker Casillas.

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Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	I think he`s better than Neuer. And I know Adler is a Manchester United supporter (Of course that means not much in professional football, for example Solskajer is a Liverpool supporter).

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cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "At times when I've watched him, I wonder if he's being controlled by a 10 year old in the crowd with a playstation console" Gary Neville talking about David Luiz Posts: 4,068	De Gea would cost less, would be better Value.

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RDCR07 Not a bad guy (Whale Killer) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Special One on the Great One: "I don't call him Alex or Sir or Mister. I call him Boss!" Posts: 11,328	I would rather spend more and get Adler than spend a little less(maybe 2-5M) and get De Gea.

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Claymore Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Technical difficulties Posts: 2,029	Yes because I can really see SAF splashing out £20m on a keeper only for him to get to the Premiership and realise he was a bit hype up or something. Too much risk on that just for a keeper, a striker fair enough.

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Aporkalypse First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cyprus Posts: 5,068	I think we would have to wait for De Gea and probably have to face competition from a lot of top teams for him. If Adler is available right now or in the summer for the speculated price I can see us going for him.

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Jaap Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 4,532	Adler has - especially due to his injuries - had a mediocre last season, to be honest. Pundits put him above Manuel Neuer when he made his debut in 2007, but the Schalke goalkeeper has overtaken him in the last two seasons, putting in superb performances in week after week, looking more consistent than Adler. It remains to be seen how Adler performs this year - should he return to his heroics of 2007/2008 then he is certainly a candidate who should be looked at.

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032Devil First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19,325	Since we bought Hargreaves from Bayern, German clubs seem to think United are a soft touch.

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Georgie Best Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: If I had to choose between sleeping with Miss World, or score against Liverpool from 40 yards, it would have been a difficult choice. Thankfully, I've done the both - Best Posts: 1,086	I also know that Adler has said in the past that he is a Manchester United fan. As this hopefully can end up being a 15 year signing, that might be a good thing. I know Neuer has been more heavily linked to Manchester United, but it has been a tight fight between the two for the German spot, Adler was in front ahead of the South African World Cup but were stopped by injuries. I think van der Sar's replacement should be one of the two, both seem very talented. The neck in neck battle can be healthy for the two as well as they will have to perform to become Germany's number one. A rivalry whom might make them the best couple of goalkeepers in the world.

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Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	They Bayer Leverkusen fans saying that Adler will probably leave the club in the summer (Contract till 2012) and Manchester United is his best option, he wouldn`t go to Bayern Munich and he loves England/the Premier League/Manchester United. They`re saying too that Leverkusen have already a replacement for Adler (The current number 2 Giefer - Another great youth product and U 21 goalkeeper of Germany) and the clubs needs money for some other positions in the team.

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Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,977	I think Adler is only 1-2% better than Neuer (It`s only my feeling), both are on the same level right now and no doubt both are on the way to the world-class level. To be honest i don`t care if we get Adler or Neuer.........i´m 100% sure one of them is the Manchester United goalkeeper for the next decade. De Gea or Lloris are very good goalkeepers too but we wouldn`t make a mistake with a german goalkeeper.

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Georgie Best Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: If I had to choose between sleeping with Miss World, or score against Liverpool from 40 yards, it would have been a difficult choice. Thankfully, I've done the both - Best Posts: 1,086	Iker Casillas is fucking overrated too. He would struggle in England, with no refs to defend him in the box, not to mention that the guy simply is to small. We could never know this, as he will be Real Madrid for life, but overrated. I think Cesar would have a harder time in England as well. I want a big guy, someone over 1.90 centimeters. Akinfeev is 1.85, Adler is 1.91, Neuer is 1.94... the numbers are small, but the difference still matters. Against Jones, Carroll or Drogba on a corner kick that can be the difference between a conceded goal, and a save. Barthez was short, world class abroad, decent in England, van der Sar is tall and brilliant in England. We want someone with size, not some midget from Russia. Best bet: go German.