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Old 13th May 2008, 18:56   #41 (permalink)
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All West Ham fans i know seem to have this intense hatred of Spurs. I think they need Millwall back so they can hate their traditional rivals, because most Spurs fans I know place their hatred at the gooners door.
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:03   #42 (permalink)
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Wrong. I said that Spurs signed them young and have helped to develop them further. Neither of them were ever in our academy.

I also said the distinction between academy players who've never been attached to another club and those who have is relatively unimportant - to me at least. What matters to me is that Spurs as a club improves, brings in quality players and players with potential and helps to develop them for the club's good.
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You are a hypocrite who bangs on endlessly - at every slight chance - about WHAM's academy, but who would be delighted if Victor Moses or Andew Ramsey signed for you tomorrow.
Actually I would rather any day we have players from our own academy than anywhere else

I welcome the signing of young players from other clubs though it should never come before producing players in our own academy

In your case you welcome players from your "academy" but it should never come before poaching them from other clubs


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Looking for yet another chance to laud WHAM's academy? Such a pity that any good player that emerges soon moves off elsewhere first chance they get.
Like who?

Rio Ferdinand was sold as we needed the money he was willing to stay

Carrick stayed with us in the Championship when he finally moved he only moved to a similar club to what we was before we was relegated. He soon moved on to a big club from there further lining our pockets in a period where the club was facing financial instability

Defoe did so at least your right about one player, then again he didn't really further himself, in fact looking at his statistics he became a worse player. Now he has moved to a bigger club again he is fulfilling his potential.

Joe Cole was willing to stay but again we needed the money

Lampard left as Rio had left and his uncle had also left the club

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You don't like the fact that Spurs sometimes sign players with potential, or that such players like to come to Spurs? Too bad, you'll just have to live with it.
I don't care who you sign, I just think your transfer polcy is a joke and a time when Enlgish football is suffering from clubs like yours actions

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Arsenal are hardly a shining example, in case you hadn't noticed.
You should have a look at their reserve / youth team

Jack Wilshere is probaby the best young talent I have seen

I'll also quote your original post

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also wanted by Barcelona, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United
And suggest you think about what your saying, i'll give David Bentley as an example of English Talent from the Arsenal Academy
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:08   #43 (permalink)
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It does get rather boring.

Cockney_Ham seems to be so obessed with Spurs that I can barely post anything without him popping up to make some silly jibe about the club. Closet stalker perhaps?

It's a pity really, because I honestly don't care much what happens at WHAM and ordinarily feel no especial need to criticise them. All would be well if only he'd confine himself to droning on in his own threads about their fabulous academy.
I fucking hate them

Most West Ham fans do, the intense hatred started when they decided instead of turning up to fight our firm back in the 80's they would go around East London fighting kids, yes kids some of them no older than 10 being beaten up by grown men as these kids support West Ham

A lot of people forget this now but, but if you speak to some of the hard core fans from the 80's they'll tell you. My old man will for sure

Scum of the Earth Tottenham fans
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:14   #44 (permalink)
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I suppose Spurs winning the league cup has proved that buying these players was the correct decision.
I began this thread by simply saying that it's looks like Spurs may be signing John Bostock from Crystal Palace.

You want to turn this - for reasons best known to yourself - into a general attack on Spurs transfer policy and record. Sorry, but the link between the two things eludes me. In any case, Spurs transfer record is better than most.

Either you think that Bostock would be a bad signing for Spurs or you don't. If the former, then let's hear your reasons. If the latter then what's your beef? Either way I don't see what you are so upset about.

Or perhaps you think the transfer would be bad for Bostock? So what should he do instead? Sign for a top 4 club where he'd be more likely to just rot forever in the reserves? Or sign for a local club where he can already see lots of other young British players - Lennon, Huddlestone, Bale etc - making it happen? You tell me.
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:16   #45 (permalink)
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I began this thread by simply saying that it's looks like Spurs may be signing John Bostock from Crystal Palace.

You want to turn this - for reasons best known to yourself - into a general attack on Spurs transfer policy and record. Sorry, but the link between the two things eludes me. In any case, Spurs transfer record is better than most.

Either you think that Bostock would be a bad signing for Spurs or you don't. If the former, then let's hear your reasons. If the latter then what's your beef? Either way I don't see what you are so upset about.

Or perhaps you think the transfer would be bad for Bostock? So what should he do instead? Sign for a top 4 club where he'd be more likely to just rot forever in the reserves? Or sign for a local club where he can already see lots of other young British players - Lennon, Huddlestone, Bale etc - making it happen? You tell me.


Asking objectively Glaston and not to antagonise you, I saw the stat that you are the third biggest spenders in Premier League history, shouldn't you have had more success on the back of this?
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:24   #46 (permalink)
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I began this thread by simply saying that it's looks like Spurs may be signing John Bostock from Crystal Palace.

You want to turn this - for reasons best known to yourself - into a general attack on Spurs transfer policy and record. Sorry, but the link between the two things eludes me. In any case, Spurs transfer record is better than most.

Either you think that Bostock would be a bad signing for Spurs or you don't. If the former, then let's hear your reasons. If the latter then what's your beef? Either way I don't see what you are so upset about.

Or perhaps you think the transfer would be bad for Bostock? So what should he do instead? Sign for a top 4 club where he'd be more likely to just rot forever in the reserves? Or sign for a local club where he can already see lots of other young British players - Lennon, Huddlestone, Bale etc - making it happen? You tell me.

I originally said just buying them all up no matter how much depth they have in that position was a mistake, like when half of the squad were midfielders and there is no point if he is not going to improve their team significantly,I have not seen him play enough to make a judgement. I was not attacking Spurs transfer policy at all i just outlined all of the young players which have not ot a chance their. I have no beef and am not particularly upset.
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I fucking hate them
... they decided instead of turning up to fight our firm back in the 80's ...
Christ almighty. I'm a football fan - not a pretend football fan who needs to use it as a pathetic excuse to go around attacking and hurting people. Take up your hatred with someone else and leave me out of it.

Even better, just start up a thread called 'I hate Spurs' and then post all of your anti-Spurs rants in there. At least then I have a chance of not stumbling across your endless, obsessive, deluded, anti-Spurs nonsense.

'Firms': a bunch of inadequate men who mostly can't get girlfriends or who sublimate their homo-erotic desires by engaging in fighting.
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:42   #48 (permalink)
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'Firms': a bunch of inadequate men who mostly can't get girlfriends or who sublimate their homo-erotic desires by engaging in fighting
Spurs firms - Grown men who go around attacking children

Firms were a part of football every club had one, most still do, Tottenham Youth you call yourselves. Your in fact the only club that has started up a new firm in recent times. As the name suggests they are just kids. I wonder if the actual Tottenham firm turn up to fight them too? Then again Spurs firm never really was anything hence the reason you called them a pathetic excuse

I don't condone needless football related violence. I also don't condone men beating up childrenfor the record. The first one is part of West Ham the second is part of Tottenham.

You probably don't know about it anyway, i've always been of the opinion that your not clued up on Tottenham's history so why don't you run off to glory glory again and get your facts from there. even better you like to qoute the Wiki so why not go and edit that and come back and post me the link.

If you don't like me replying to your posts either don't post them or add me to your ignore list so you don't have to read them.
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Old 13th May 2008, 19:42   #49 (permalink)
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Asking objectively Glaston and not to antagonise you, I saw the stat that you are the third biggest spenders in Premier League history...
What counts here is net spending - money spent on transfers minus money received from transfers. I'm not sure what figures you refer to, and I could be wrong, but I suspect they don't relate to net spending.

In any case there's been a big spike in our spending in the last two years (for several transfer windows prior to that we spent relatively little) - the fruits of that in my view are beginning to show, but it takes time. We shall see what happens in the next two seasons.
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Old 13th May 2008, 20:01   #50 (permalink)
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I welcome the signing of young players from other clubs though it should never come before producing players in our own academy

In your case you welcome players from your "academy" but it should never come before poaching them from other clubs
It's interesting that WHAM 'sign' players, but Spurs 'poach' them, when in fact the two acts are identical: a club identifies the players it wants and tries to get them.

I don't particularly care - and nor do Spurs - whether an academy player is entirely home-grown or joins the academy from outside and develops onwards from there: my only concern is that we improve the club's footballing prospects.

If it burns your arse that Spurs choose to sign certain players, then frankly that's your problem.

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I don't care who you sign, I just think your transfer polcy is a joke and a time when Enlgish football is suffering from clubs like yours actions
Your comment is the joke. Spurs - far more than most clubs - have signed a large number of British and English players.

Jenas, Huddlestone, Lennon, Bent, Robinson, King, O'Hara, Woodgate, Bale, Hutton, Dawson, Gunter - tell me how British football is suffering because of actions by Spurs?

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You should have a look at their reserve / youth team

Jack Wilshere is probaby the best young talent I have seen


Your belief that Arsenal are a shining light in helping English/British players beggars belief - especially in comparison to Spurs. Your comments couldn't be more stupid even if a block of wood had written them.
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If you don't like me replying to your posts either don't post them or add me to your ignore list so you don't have to read them.
I wouldn't mind you occasionally replying to my posts with some reasonable comments ...

.... but it would just be a lot better for all concerned - other posters included - if you didn't obsessively stalk my posts and feel compelled to inject a lot of hate-filled anti-Spurs nonsense at almost every conceivable opportunity.

Just a thought like.
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Old 13th May 2008, 20:15   #52 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind you occasionally replying to my posts with some reasonable comments ...

.... but it would just be a lot better for all concerned - other posters included - if you didn't obsessively stalk my posts and feel compelled to inject a lot of hate-filled anti-Spurs nonsense at almost every conceivable opportunity.

Just a thought like.
OK agreed

Take this away with you though;

West Ham have fielded 22 British players this season

Out of the current England squad 7 players were at West Hams academy at some point
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OK agreed

Take this away with you though;

West Ham have fielded 22 British players this season

Out of the current England squad 7 players were at West Hams academy at some point
This is a very impressive statistic.
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Old 13th May 2008, 23:05   #54 (permalink)
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OK agreed

Take this away with you though;

West Ham have fielded 22 British players this season

Out of the current England squad 7 players were at West Hams academy at some point
No wonder they didn't make Euro 2008
















disclaimer: I'm kidding Cockney, before you go all Chuck Norris on me, you have a very reputable academy all credit to Tony Carr. From which MUFC have benefited greatly.
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Old 13th May 2008, 23:11   #55 (permalink)
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I don't know where you get this idea from - it's rubbish. Most Spurs fans are very happy with the array of young players that we've been signing and developing over the last 2 or 3 years: players like Danny Rose, Dean Parrett, Adel Taarabt and several others. Not all will necessarily make it, but I bet you that several will be appearing in Spurs' match-day squad before too long. And most Spurs fans think likewise.


Also rubbish. Spurs have the 11th largest income in the world - unlike some clubs we don't need to sell players to survive.

If we didn't sign Lennon and Huddlestone (for example) for footballing reasons, then it's mighty strange that they play so frequently for us.

I think you need to communicate better wtih your fellow Spurs fans rather than talking nonsense here.

When you needed an experienced CM and a left winger, your club spent 30m on a "fourth" striker and a left back. And what happened? Look at the table. And Berbatov is leaving.
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Congrats on a very talented player, Glaston.
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Old 13th May 2008, 23:20   #57 (permalink)
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No wonder they didn't make Euro 2008
















disclaimer: I'm kidding Cockney, before you go all Chuck Norris on me, you have a very reputable academy all credit to Tony Carr. From which MUFC have benefited greatly.
Git

You can thank us for Rio and Carrick and in a way Tevez

We can thank you for Spector

Bastards, I wouldn't mind O'Shea at West Ham or Park for that matter
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You can thank us for Rio and Carrick and in a way Tevez

We can thank you for Spector

Bastards, I wouldn't mind O'Shea at West Ham or Park for that matter
no way on park.

sheasy + 6 million for ashton?....put that into WHU ITK's so it'll filter up to your board.
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Old 14th May 2008, 00:11   #59 (permalink)
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no way on park.

sheasy + 6 million for ashton?....put that into WHU ITK's so it'll filter up to your board.
I didn't think you would sell Park, I would love him at West Ham, nothing to do with his nationality and selling shirts but his work rate is immense

As for O'shea if you was to take Ashton getting O'shea in return would dampen the loss. I've alwyas admired him as a player and we could have done with someone like him this season, especially with his versatility

6 Million + O'shea with a further 1 million payed after 10 goals from Ashton and another million after he makes 20 appearances wouldn't be a bad deal for all involved. Chuck in a clause for 500k if you win the league and a further 500k for the CL and i'll personally snap your hands off
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Read a while back that getting scouted by Spurs is like a right of passage for most younger players. Anyone seen this Bostock kid play much?

That said, fair play to spurs for having the foresight and essentially willing to take the risk on these kids.

All joking aside, what is the appeal of Spurs for most players? Ramos? London? Uefa Cup? Kudos on signing Modric btw, have to say i didn't see that coming.

Question for both the friendliest of 'mates' on here, how is Carrick now, compared to his Spurs days and his West Ham days? What improvements have there been?
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It's good that delusions are keeping you calm - but might I suggest trying yoga?
You know its true! Carrick, then maybe Berbs, then Modric and Bostock
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Congrats on a very talented player, Glaston.
Thanks, but we haven't actually signed him yet - hence the question mark in the thread title.
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All joking aside, what is the appeal of Spurs for most players? Ramos? London? Uefa Cup?
A bit of all three of these factors I guess. And for young British players I'd imagine that it's encouraging for for them see several other young British players at the club - several of them playing frequently for the first XI or in the matchday squads.

Another probable factor is that Spurs are a big club, are well known across Europe and beyond and are seen as ambitious with lots of potential.
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Question for both the friendliest of 'mates' on here, how is Carrick now, compared to his Spurs days and his West Ham days? What improvements have there been?
It's hard for me to say, since I don't often see him play. But when I have he's looked as classy as ever - and of course in many ways it's easier to play well when surrounded by so many other excellent Man. United players.
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Question for both the friendliest of 'mates' on here, how is Carrick now, compared to his Spurs days and his West Ham days? What improvements have there been?
His passing was always top notch here, I didn't really see him much at Spurs so can't comment, I know his passing now is immense one thing what has improved a lot is his positioning and he ikes to get forward more now
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