Is there another Roy Keane or Paul Ince playing somewhere in the lower divisions

edn33 · 30th January 2012, 06:24

Is there another Roy Keane or Paul Ince playing somewhere in the lower divisions that is yet to be spotted ?

Gazza · 30th January 2012, 06:32

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Originally Posted by edn33

Is there another Roy Keane or Paul Ince playing somewhere in the lower divisions that is yet to be spotted ?

How could we tell you if he's yet to be spotted?

Varun_Utd · 30th January 2012, 06:48

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Originally Posted by edn33

Is there another Roy Keane or Paul Ince playing somewhere in the lower divisions that is yet to be spotted ?

Yes, in india. Me. Tell Sir Alex..

rcoobc · 30th January 2012, 06:50

Charlie Adam?

I'm sure the Championship and to some extent League One are saturated with players who are waiting for their chance at a higher level.

FortBoyard · 30th January 2012, 07:03

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

Charlie Adam?

I'm sure the Championship and to some extent League One are saturated with players who are waiting for their chance at a higher level.

Good one.

rcoobc · 30th January 2012, 07:12

Yeah I didn't mean to compare him to either of those players, just as an example of a central midfielder playing in a lower division who obviously could play at a higher level.

Who was the Ex United player who said that a player moving from a Division 4(Division Two) club to a top Division 1(Premier League) club will never happen again. I think it was Best who said it but I could be wrong as I can't understand the circumstance he would have done.

Ish84045 · 30th January 2012, 07:26

Javi Martinez

Not that he's playing in the lower divisions of the UK leagues. But still...he's tough and he's Spanish and he's name sounds cool...

Ringo 07 · 30th January 2012, 10:37

Tunnifliffe, Barkley

mufcwarm92 · 30th January 2012, 11:24

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

Yeah I didn't mean to compare him to either of those players, just as an example of a central midfielder playing in a lower division who obviously could play at a higher level.

Who was the Ex United player who said that a player moving from a Division 4(Division Two) club to a top Division 1(Premier League) club will never happen again. I think it was Best who said it but I could be wrong as I can't understand the circumstance he would have done.

The fact that Steve Morison has played in each of the top 5 leagues and is now impressing in the Premiership has made that look like a ridiculous claim.

RedRover · 30th January 2012, 11:27

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

Yeah I didn't mean to compare him to either of those players, just as an example of a central midfielder playing in a lower division who obviously could play at a higher level.

Who was the Ex United player who said that a player moving from a Division 4(Division Two) club to a top Division 1(Premier League) club will never happen again. I think it was Best who said it but I could be wrong as I can't understand the circumstance he would have done.

Howsen (recently transferred to Norwich) has always looked a cut above when I've seen him.

It is a big gap though.

Reapersoul20 · 30th January 2012, 23:47

I'll hold my opinion back on this. I thought Reo-Coker would solve all our midfield woes

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Lynk · 31st January 2012, 00:00

Ince was never in Keane's class. But yeah, it seems like players such as Keane, Robson and Souness are few and far between.

Rood · 31st January 2012, 00:22

We've already got him - his name is Phil Jones

snootyjim · 31st January 2012, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Rood

We've already got him - his name is Phil Jones

Tip: Blackburn aren't yet in the lower divisions.

Snow · 31st January 2012, 00:36

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Originally Posted by mufcwarm92

The fact that Steve Morison has played in each of the top 5 leagues and is now impressing in the Premiership has made that look like a ridiculous claim.

Hermann Hreiðarsson only started playing football at age 16. He's from an island south of Iceland with about 4 thousand people. 3 years later he signed with a club and became an Icelandic champion soon after. Played football for 4 years in Iceland before moving to England straight to the Premier League with Crystal Palace.

At the time that would be like moving from low League 1, high League 2. He played 30 games his first season.

He did a similar story again. He left mid season of 2 his 2nd with CP and went all the way down to Brentford in League 2. There he became a champion and mid next season he was back to the PL.

Sir Matt · 31st January 2012, 00:58

I heard there's this really good kid at West Ham, but he's got attitude/behavioral issues.

gulli_G · 31st January 2012, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Rood

We've already got him - his name is Phil Jones

potentially he has the talent, to adapt and become an excellent box-box player, who can also fill-in anywhere really, but as a pure CB Smalling already better.

Widnes · 31st January 2012, 19:00

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Originally Posted by gulli_G

potentially he has the talent, to adapt and become an excellent box-box player, who can also fill-in anywhere really, but as a pure CB Smalling already better.

To be fair he is 2-3 years older than Jones I would expect him to be better

rcoobc · 31st January 2012, 19:02

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Originally Posted by Widnes

To be fair he is 2-3 years older than Jones I would expect him to be better

Probably had half the training Jones has had

::sonny:: · 1st February 2012, 15:37

We'll never see again another Roy Keane.

Some name of talented players:
Robert Snodgrass (Leeds United), not a CM
Morgan Schneiderlin (Southampton)
Chris Cohen (Nottingham Forest)
^^^
Jamie Ness (Glasgow Rangers), best under 20 CM in UK

Freak · 1st February 2012, 16:05

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Originally Posted by ::sonny::

We'll never see again another Roy Keane.

Morgan Schneiderlin (Southampton)

Wait what? A Sneijderlin?!

::sonny:: · 1st February 2012, 16:07

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Originally Posted by freak

wait what? A sneijderlin?!:d

:d:d:d:d:d

duffer · 1st February 2012, 18:31

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Originally Posted by ::sonny::

^^^
Jamie Ness (Glasgow Rangers), best under 20 CM in UK

Better than Wilshere (who is younger than Ness)?

RedThaiDevils#7 · 2nd February 2012, 12:10

Outside the top 4

Twigginater · 2nd February 2012, 13:25

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Originally Posted by RedThaiDevils#7

Outside the top 4

How could you possibly know that/

snootyjim · 2nd February 2012, 13:35

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Originally Posted by duffer

Better than Wilshere (who is younger than Ness)?

Given that Wilshere's got a broken foot, I'll go with yes.

towcester_red · 2nd February 2012, 13:57

No Roy Keane but somebody needs to snap up Jordan Rhodes, quality player.

Brophs · 2nd February 2012, 14:01

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Originally Posted by towcester_red

No Roy Keane but somebody needs to snap up Jordan Rhodes, quality player.

When I've seen him he's looked to lack a bit of pace, maybe that's why nobody has had a punt on him? Because otherwise you'd think he'd be a good signing that wouldn't cost the earth, particularly for clubs like Everton.

marjen · 2nd February 2012, 14:05

Has anyone mentioned Xavi yet?

Oh, wrong thread.

towcester_red · 2nd February 2012, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Brophs

When I've seen him he's looked to lack a bit of pace, maybe that's why nobody has had a punt on him? Because otherwise you'd think he'd be a good signing that wouldn't cost the earth, particularly for clubs like Everton.

Nah he has pace, well he certainly is no slouch. Good in the air, quick, strong, links up well.

Dont think he is top 5 quality but I see him at somewhere like Everton/Villa.

29 goals already I thin, great effort.

Red Dreams · 2nd February 2012, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Ringo 07

Tunnifliffe, Barkley

I have heard Tunniclife compared to Keane. Only time will tell.

Barkley??

Have not heard of him.

pocco · 2nd February 2012, 16:52

Tunnicliffe isn't going to be Keane-standard in my opinion. Keane was technically superior, though most similarities are drawn between the two because of the box-to-box nature of their games and the tough tackling too. I'd say the similarities end there.

Barkley looks more of an attacking player to me. Oddly, he reminds me of Nani a bit in the way he takes on players from a standing position. Not sure what type of player he'll turn out to be.

30th January 2012, 06:24	#1 (permalink)
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30th January 2012, 06:50	#4 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Corrupting West Brom Posts: 17,206	Charlie Adam? I'm sure the Championship and to some extent League One are saturated with players who are waiting for their chance at a higher level.

30th January 2012, 07:12	#6 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Corrupting West Brom Posts: 17,206	Yeah I didn't mean to compare him to either of those players, just as an example of a central midfielder playing in a lower division who obviously could play at a higher level. Who was the Ex United player who said that a player moving from a Division 4(Division Two) club to a top Division 1(Premier League) club will never happen again. I think it was Best who said it but I could be wrong as I can't understand the circumstance he would have done.

30th January 2012, 07:26	#7 (permalink)
Ish84045 raisa84045 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: "WhatF*ckingWhat" Posts: 2,667	Javi Martinez Not that he's playing in the lower divisions of the UK leagues. But still...he's tough and he's Spanish and he's name sounds cool...

30th January 2012, 10:37	#8 (permalink)
Ringo 07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better," Steven Gerrard on Joe Cole Posts: 3,107	Tunnifliffe, Barkley

30th January 2012, 23:47	#11 (permalink)
Reapersoul20 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,926	I'll hold my opinion back on this. I thought Reo-Coker would solve all our midfield woes .

31st January 2012, 00:00	#12 (permalink)
Lynk First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: "Liverpool couldn't win the league with Torres up front, Gerrard behind and Mascherano and Alonso in midfield. They aren't gonna win it with this shower of shit. " - Peterstorey Posts: 5,977	Ince was never in Keane's class. But yeah, it seems like players such as Keane, Robson and Souness are few and far between.

31st January 2012, 00:22	#13 (permalink)
Rood nostradamus like gloater Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Republik Of Mancunia Posts: 13,005	We've already got him - his name is Phil Jones

31st January 2012, 00:58	#16 (permalink)
Sir Matt First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LUHG Posts: 9,295	I heard there's this really good kid at West Ham, but he's got attitude/behavioral issues.

1st February 2012, 15:37	#20 (permalink)
::sonny:: First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milan Posts: 5,469	We'll never see again another Roy Keane. Some name of talented players: Robert Snodgrass (Leeds United), not a CM Morgan Schneiderlin (Southampton) Chris Cohen (Nottingham Forest) ^^^ Jamie Ness (Glasgow Rangers), best under 20 CM in UK

2nd February 2012, 12:10	#24 (permalink)
RedThaiDevils#7 First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Married with Manchester United, In love with Giggs, Is passionate about Scholes, and is rooting for Bebe' Posts: 5,548	Outside the top 4

2nd February 2012, 13:57	#27 (permalink)
towcester_red Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: wayne rooney wonderland Posts: 3,951	No Roy Keane but somebody needs to snap up Jordan Rhodes, quality player.

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marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,626	Has anyone mentioned Xavi yet? Oh, wrong thread.

2nd February 2012, 16:52	#32 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3,608	Tunnicliffe isn't going to be Keane-standard in my opinion. Keane was technically superior, though most similarities are drawn between the two because of the box-to-box nature of their games and the tough tackling too. I'd say the similarities end there. Barkley looks more of an attacking player to me. Oddly, he reminds me of Nani a bit in the way he takes on players from a standing position. Not sure what type of player he'll turn out to be.