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Old 13th May 2009, 03:17   #1 (permalink)
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United lands startlet Dodo

SAO PAULO - BRAZILIAN outfit Corinthians have agreed to sell 17-year-old starlet Dodo to Manchester United for six million euros (S$12 million) following an initial loan, media reports in Sao Paulo said on Tuesday.

The reports said Dodo had already left for an initial two-week spell in Manchester but added he would return to Brazil until next February, save for three-monthly trips back to England to integrate himself gradually with his new side.

The youngster has yet to make a full league appearance in Brazil and only turned pro last year.

'As there are already some Brazilians over there I think that will make it easy to adapt. It'll be a great experience,' Dodo was quoted as saying in allusion to United's budding trio Anderson, Fabio and Rafael. -- AFP

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_376106.html

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6 million for a 17yr old with no experience?

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Old 13th May 2009, 03:24   #3 (permalink)
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Must be the only dodo left.

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dodo? i thought he was extinguished
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He'll fit in well with Anderson going out. He'll just point to the ladies vagina and say: I Wanna DO DO DO
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6 million for a 17yr old with no experience?

Dodo?
With Rafael and Fabio, we've proven already that these lads have immense natural talent that just needs nuturing.

Poor Evans will be the only one back there
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Old 13th May 2009, 04:29   #8 (permalink)
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Must be the only dodo left.

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Old 13th May 2009, 04:38   #9 (permalink)
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SAO PAULO - BRAZILIAN outfit Corinthians have agreed to sell 17-year-old starlet Dodo to Manchester United for six million euros (S$12 million) following an initial loan, media reports in Sao Paulo said on Tuesday.

The reports said Dodo had already left for an initial two-week spell in Manchester but added he would return to Brazil until next February, save for three-monthly trips back to England to integrate himself gradually with his new side.

The youngster has yet to make a full league appearance in Brazil and only turned pro last year.

'As there are already some Brazilians over there I think that will make it easy to adapt. It'll be a great experience,' Dodo was quoted as saying in allusion to United's budding trio Anderson, Fabio and Rafael. -- AFP

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_376106.html

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I said so in the other thread

Watched him play twice and he's very talented on the ball.
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Old 13th May 2009, 05:30   #10 (permalink)
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Is he a centre-back or a full-back? I've seen him described as a left-back somewhere. A bit of a strange purchase, if the latter is the case.
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:04   #11 (permalink)
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A new chant called Dodo Chacha?

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Old 13th May 2009, 06:14   #12 (permalink)
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Is he a centre-back or a full-back? I've seen him described as a left-back somewhere. A bit of a strange purchase, if the latter is the case.
He's a tall left back who dominates aerially and is very talented on the ball. He's been likened to Rio Ferdinand.

Having seen him I was hoping we'd sign him because he looks like he'll become a quality player. Whether thats at CB I'm not so sure because I've not seen him play there. But he was the dominant force in Brazil's defence, sometimes clearing up as a sweeper.

The only issue he has other than getting caught up the pitch (which is the same with any Brazilian wingback) is that despite his size (6 feet, 6 feet something) he's not very strong in a challenge.
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:17   #13 (permalink)
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No video of Dodo Chacha?
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:36   #14 (permalink)
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just think of it as using pique money to get a replacement.
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:38   #15 (permalink)
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Some quality English there marcos.
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:38   #16 (permalink)
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A bit of an outlay there and much yet to prove although hopefully...

Not all that many years ago the Premiership as a league and ourselves had a minimal cache in South America but now...well we're carving out our own reputation and base. Still, we mustn't ever place it above bringing through talent from the British Isles. The progression of Evans this season has been great all round.
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Old 13th May 2009, 06:41   #17 (permalink)
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I said so in the other thread

Watched him play twice and he's very talented on the ball.
does the lad have pace? that's the one knock i had on pique. even evans is quicker than him and evans is pretty slow himself, IMO.
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Old 13th May 2009, 07:23   #18 (permalink)
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Old 13th May 2009, 09:24   #20 (permalink)
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With Rafael and Fabio, we've proven already that these lads have immense natural talent that just needs nuturing.

Poor Evans will be the only one back there
yeah he will be stood there with those three bombing up the pitch, poor bastard
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Old 13th May 2009, 10:05   #21 (permalink)
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He may not cost much but the service he provides isn't very good and you will only spend more money replacing him.

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Old 13th May 2009, 11:07   #22 (permalink)
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Did other major clubs try to sign him as well? Left back/Centre back?
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Old 13th May 2009, 14:46   #23 (permalink)
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does the lad have pace? that's the one knock i had on pique. even evans is quicker than him and evans is pretty slow himself, IMO.
Yeah he does.

And if we convert him into a a central defender, he has the passing ability (and dribbling ability) to become another cultured ball-playing CB like Pique.

In the first game I saw him play he wasnt attacking that agressively, was mainly picking up the ball on the left hand side and chipping 15-30 yard passes pretty accurately to the attacking players with a bit of class. In fact I'm not sure I saw him give the ball away more than once trying it.

In the second match his passing was more hit and miss, he attacked more and defended less.
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Old 13th May 2009, 14:50   #24 (permalink)
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Hopefully a skillfull centre back, with a ferocious shot.

An Agger type player, but not as much as a Cunt.
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Old 13th May 2009, 14:54   #25 (permalink)
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I've only seen him shoot with his right foot and blaze it over the bar... And score a tap in. So we'll have to wait and see about the shot. But he's more skillful than Agger.
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Old 13th May 2009, 15:45   #27 (permalink)
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So wait, now that we couldn't get Kaká we went for Dodo?
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So wait, now that we couldn't get Kaká we went for Dodo?
else we would have gone for Poo Poo
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Old 13th May 2009, 17:04   #29 (permalink)
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With Rafael and Fabio, we've proven already that these lads have immense natural talent that just needs nuturing.
Yeah, but you could say that about any number of prospects. Just seems like a lot for a prospect and for someone that is guaranteed not to play for a year (from the article).

Anyway, if they picked him I'm sure he's got what it takes. Looking forward to seeing what he's all about.
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Old 13th May 2009, 17:16   #30 (permalink)
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Yeah, but you could say that about any number of prospects. Just seems like a lot for a prospect and for someone that is guaranteed not to play for a year (from the article).

Anyway, if they picked him I'm sure he's got what it takes. Looking forward to seeing what he's all about.
If we convert him to CB he'll be the most naturally gifted ball-playing CB in the world. He's as technically adept as the twins are. His actual defending from a CB position I'm less clear about. But in terms of ability on the ball, he's beyond what Pique was showing when he came. His technique and passing wouldnt look out of place in the first team right now, although his tackling and strength probably would. Thats what he needs to work on. If he doesnt work out as a CB I'm sure he'll end up a top quality left back at least. Because I havent seen one with more natural talent than he has.

Also, we paid more for Ljajic who is in the same situation.

Think of it as a more expensive version of Rossi and Pique. These kids have the natural raw talent to become superstars. There's nothing to guarantee they'll have the world at their feet by 22, it might be that they dont fully realise their potential till around 27 instead... And it might be that like Pique and Rossi, they feel they have to move onto other clubs in order to play regularly. But we'll get double our money back on them in 3 or 4 years if they do choose to move on because they'll be the stars of other sides.
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Jeesus Christ, how does Ekeke find time to scout all these players?
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Jeesus Christ, how does Ekeke find time to scout all these players?
I watched 4 sub 17 matches recently

2 featuring Brazil, 1 featuring Spain and 1 was England Vs. Germany.

Sadly England were the least impressive. But Tunicliffe got a game alongside Wilshire and Bostock.

Made sure to catch a glimpse of Dodo because it'll be a long while before there's another chance to see what he's about.

And I was fairly sure the news of us striking a deal with Corinthians for him that came out the first time was going to turn out to be accurate.

I didnt watch the twins before they got here. The impact Dodo makes will be less of a surprise to me.
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If we convert him to CB he'll be the most naturally gifted ball-playing CB in the world. He's as technically adept as the twins are. His actual defending from a CB position I'm less clear about. But in terms of ability on the ball, he's beyond what Pique was showing when he came. His technique and passing wouldnt look out of place in the first team right now, although his tackling and strength probably would. Thats what he needs to work on. If he doesnt work out as a CB I'm sure he'll end up a top quality left back at least. Because I havent seen one with more natural talent than he has.
Also, we paid more for Ljajic who is in the same situation.

Think of it as a more expensive version of Rossi and Pique. These kids have the natural raw talent to become superstars. There's nothing to guarantee they'll have the world at their feet by 22, it might be that they dont fully realise their potential till around 27 instead... And it might be that like Pique and Rossi, they feel they have to move onto other clubs in order to play regularly. But we'll get double our money back on them in 3 or 4 years if they do choose to move on because they'll be the stars of other sides.
You've watched him in what? Two games now?

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You've watched him in what? Two games now?

Yep, you cant tell how good someone's technique and ball playing ability is over 2 games.

You have to watch them 30 times.
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Yep, you cant tell how good someone's technique and ball playing ability is over 2 games.

You have to watch them 30 times.
If you're gonna come out with shite like this

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If we convert him to CB he'll be the most naturally gifted ball-playing CB in the world.
You should probably base your opinion on slightly more than 180 minutes of football.

Were you at the games?

Or did this astonishing insight come via the medium of a dodgy stream on your PC?
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You should probably base your opinion on slightly more than 180 minutes of football.

Were you at the games?

Or did this astonishing insight come via the medium of a dodgy stream on your PC?
I have based it on more than 180 minutes of football.

I've seen lots of other footballers playing lots of football. Among them lots of CBs, and of the current lot who are continuing to play football none of them have quite the same technical ability as Dodo showed.

This is because usually, when you're gifted technically on the ball, you are played in a different position and not as a CB. Like Dodo, who is played as a wingback for Brazil sub 17 despite being tall and very good dealing with the ball in the air.

He's not that outstanding of a defender from what I've seen, but his talent on the ball is very clear.
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I have based it on more than 180 minutes of football.

I've seen lots of other footballers playing lots of football. Among them lots of CBs, and of the current lot who are continuing to play football none of them have quite the same technical ability as Dodo showed.

This is because usually, when you're gifted technically on the ball, you are played in a different position and not as a CB. Like Dodo, who is played as a wingback for Brazil sub 17 despite being tall and very good dealing with the ball in the air.

He's not that outstanding of a defender from what I've seen, but his talent on the ball is very clear.
So, just to confirm.

You stand by your claim that "he'll be the most naturally gifted ball-playing CB in the world" after watching him play twice. On television (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it wasn't a stream)

Correct me if I'm wrong but in one of these two games you watched he wasn't even playing in central defence, was he?
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Oh right I see.

So if we played Rafael or Fabio in central defence, they'll suddenly lose all their technical ability that they've shown in other positions and look completely different when they have the ball.

You cant tell if they'll do a good job defending in the middle because you havent seen it. Even if you suspect they will or wont based on certain qualities.

But you can damn sure judge their ability with the ball at their feet regardless of what position they are playing.
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"the most naturally gifted ball-playing CB in the world"

Just thought I'd quote that one last time.

Two games.

One at full-back.

On the telly.

Classic.
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