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Old 6th May 2008, 06:04   #1 (permalink)
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Why we won't spend big on a striker this year

1) Manucho is coming, and he'll probably get his work permit. (If it starts looking like he won't get it, we might have to change our attitude). So we need a third or fourth choice striker.

2) We have a winger who scores more goals per game than even legendary strikers. Our attacking game goes through Ronaldo, so we are not in the market for someone to center our attack around. We are in the market for an effective role player.

3) The Glazers maybe aren't going to want to spend big. They are reaping the rewards of last summer's investment (possible lucrative double), and maybe now is the time to start paying off some of the principal on that debt?
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Old 6th May 2008, 06:07   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe you are right.

But We will buy some young players imo.
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Old 6th May 2008, 06:07   #3 (permalink)
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Why is Manchawanchadoodits being considered the next greatest thing ever by almost everyone who spends a lot of time thinking about transfers while we're trying to win a double?

Oh, and I've moved this to the Transfer Forum.
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Old 6th May 2008, 06:11   #4 (permalink)
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if not a striker , we'll have to get a winger

ronaldo can then play more central in certain games ... nani / park thats all we'll have next season .. dont know how much giggsy will play

is eagles any good ?
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Old 6th May 2008, 06:27   #5 (permalink)
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1) Manucho is unproven in the premiership, or even european football so i doubt Fergie is going to be pinning our hopes on him. If he works out it is a bonus.

2) Ronaldo can not be relied upon to score all of our goals again, it aint gonna work forever. Im sure he will be just as good a player but there is no guarantee the goals will flow the same. Rooney etc and maybe a new player need to chip in a bit more.

3) The Glazers have said they understand that continued investment is needed in the squad to stay on top and win trophies... which is what brings more revenue into the club. If Fergie wants players im sure he will be backed.
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Old 6th May 2008, 06:38   #6 (permalink)
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2) Ronaldo can not be relied upon to score all of our goals again, it aint gonna work forever. Im sure he will be just as good a player but there is no guarantee the goals will flow the same. Rooney etc and maybe a new player need to chip in a bit more.
no striker guarantees goals , but if ronaldo plays up front as a striker , he will score loads .. he does it for portugal

ronaldo + tevez + rooney + fergie said campbell will get his chance ..

only way that would work is if we
- get another winger
- change to a 4-3-3

can see us going to a 4-3-3 with the midfielders we have
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Old 6th May 2008, 07:11   #7 (permalink)
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We wont spend big cause we already did last summer and the team is pretty good. We just need a couple of players to complete our squad.

Probably a World class striker and another one (RB or Winger).

I cant see departures if is not a younger.
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Old 6th May 2008, 11:08   #8 (permalink)
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if we do't spend big on a striker, we run the risk of finishing behind chelsea.

before this season even started i stated on these boards (and i don't feel like finding my post), that i really hope we don't regret going into the season with 2.5 strikers.

If we lose the league, i am convinced that fergie not getting striker cover is the cause of this. See our anemic goal return early in the season which we dropped unnecessary points due to a lack of strikers.

With the amount of games and the intensity of the competition these days, we need 3 top class strikers.

We are so close to having an immaculate squad, and one of the final pieces of the puzzle is getting a top notch striker.
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Old 6th May 2008, 11:22   #9 (permalink)
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How can you say that? When Fergie pledged to spend this summer...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...417610,00.html

He has also said that he made a mistake of not reinforcing after the treble winning year. Im sure he wont settle for anything less than the best, and if he can reinforce; he will do, continually. I dont think he will rest on his laurels, especially when Chelsea are going to spend big, and so are most of europe.

I have a sneaky suspiscion that he may have most of his business done, similar to last summer. In my imaginary world, that might bear resemblance to this one: Veloso will be on his way (Hargreaves RB), Berbatov (i have a feeling a deal has already been struck) with Pique and most probably Saha on his way as a counterweights. That by my calculations would be a net spend of 20 million.

In an ideal world we could sign Benzema, but he has done nothing to make me think he will be in a red shirt next season.

Squad next season:

Van Der Sar
Foster
Hargreaves
Brown
Simpson
Neville
Rio
Vidic
Evans
Evra
Silvestre
Veloso
Carrick
Scholes
Anderson
Ronaldo
Nani
Giggs
Rooney
Berbatov
Tevez
Campbell
Manucho
Wellbeck
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Old 6th May 2008, 11:22   #10 (permalink)
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We need to buy a top quality young striker. Manucho can come in and get his chance to prove his quality as well. As for Saha, I dont know what will happen with him in the summer.

Apart from that, the squad is pretty formidable for next season. The likes of Campbell, Eagles, Pique, Evans, Welbeck may be used more often in the Carling Cup and possible some league games.
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Old 6th May 2008, 11:25   #11 (permalink)
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1) Manucho is coming, and he'll probably get his work permit. (If it starts looking like he won't get it, we might have to change our attitude). So we need a third or fourth choice striker.


Manucho IS the fourth striker.
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Old 6th May 2008, 11:58   #12 (permalink)
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How can you say that? When Fergie pledged to spend this summer...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...417610,00.html

He has also said that he made a mistake of not reinforcing after the treble winning year. Im sure he wont settle for anything less than the best, and if he can reinforce; he will do, continually. I dont think he will rest on his laurels, especially when Chelsea are going to spend big, and so are most of europe.

I have a sneaky suspiscion that he may have most of his business done, similar to last summer. In my imaginary world, that might bear resemblance to this one: Veloso will be on his way (Hargreaves RB), Berbatov (i have a feeling a deal has already been struck) with Pique and most probably Saha on his way as a counterweights. That by my calculations would be a net spend of 20 million.

In an ideal world we could sign Benzema, but he has done nothing to make me think he will be in a red shirt next season.

Squad next season:

Van Der Sar
Foster
Hargreaves
Simpson
Neville
Rio
Vidic
Evans
Evra
Silvestre
Veloso
Carrick
Scholes
Anderson
Ronaldo
Nani
Giggs
Rooney
Berbatov
Campbell
Manucho
Wellbeck
We'll just let Tevez go as well I presume.
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:06   #13 (permalink)
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Adding a new striker would give us another string to play on, and I`m guessing that`s what Fergie wants. If Saha could stay fit it wouldn`t be a problem, but we all know that`s not going to happen.
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:09   #14 (permalink)
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I would not be surprised if we spend around £20m on a striker and another £15-20m on either a right-back or a central midfielder. If Fergie thinks Hargreaves will do the job at right-back for years to come, then there is no need to buy a right-back. But I would not understand a move for another central midfielder unless Fletcher is on his way out.
My personal guess is that Pique (£5m), Saha (£7m), Eagles and maybe even Evans (£5m) and Fletcher (£7m) could be on their way out. Net spent therefore should be somewhere in the region of £20m.
Strikers next season: Rooney, Tevez, new striker, Manucho, Campbell
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:12   #15 (permalink)
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Is there an update on the Solskjaer cloning process?

Seriously though I would kill to have a striker like him at Utd. Loves the club, willing to sit on the bench, and can come on and turn the game around! Who the fuck is alan shearer?
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:23   #16 (permalink)
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I think we will get Berbatov!! It looks inevitable he will leave... If he wants to stay in England i can only see him coming to us unless Drogba decides to leave the Bridge.
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:31   #17 (permalink)
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I personally don't think we will spend big on a striker. But we will get someone in.
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:32   #18 (permalink)
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How can you say that? When Fergie pledged to spend this summer...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...417610,00.html

He has also said that he made a mistake of not reinforcing after the treble winning year. Im sure he wont settle for anything less than the best, and if he can reinforce; he will do, continually. I dont think he will rest on his laurels, especially when Chelsea are going to spend big, and so are most of europe.

I have a sneaky suspiscion that he may have most of his business done, similar to last summer. In my imaginary world, that might bear resemblance to this one: Veloso will be on his way (Hargreaves RB), Berbatov (i have a feeling a deal has already been struck) with Pique and most probably Saha on his way as a counterweights. That by my calculations would be a net spend of 20 million.

In an ideal world we could sign Benzema, but he has done nothing to make me think he will be in a red shirt next season.

Squad next season:

Van Der Sar
Foster
Hargreaves
Simpson
Neville
Rio
Vidic
Evans
Evra
Silvestre
Veloso
Carrick
Scholes
Anderson
Ronaldo
Nani
Giggs
Rooney
Berbatov
Campbell
Manucho
Wellbeck
Rubbish
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Old 6th May 2008, 12:51   #19 (permalink)
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How can you say that? When Fergie pledged to spend this summer...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...417610,00.html

He has also said that he made a mistake of not reinforcing after the treble winning year. Im sure he wont settle for anything less than the best, and if he can reinforce; he will do, continually. I dont think he will rest on his laurels, especially when Chelsea are going to spend big, and so are most of europe.

I have a sneaky suspiscion that he may have most of his business done, similar to last summer. In my imaginary world, that might bear resemblance to this one: Veloso will be on his way (Hargreaves RB), Berbatov (i have a feeling a deal has already been struck) with Pique and most probably Saha on his way as a counterweights. That by my calculations would be a net spend of 20 million.

In an ideal world we could sign Benzema, but he has done nothing to make me think he will be in a red shirt next season.

Squad next season:

Van Der Sar
Foster
Hargreaves
Simpson
Neville
Rio
Vidic
Evans
Evra
Silvestre
Veloso
Carrick
Scholes
Anderson
Ronaldo
Nani
Giggs
Rooney
Berbatov
Campbell
Manucho
Wellbeck
Where are Tevez and Brown going?
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:01   #20 (permalink)
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2) We are in the market for an effective role player.
Eh?
You mean like someone who rolls 20's all the time, and brings their own elf costume?

What do you think 'effective role player' means in football terms?
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:05   #21 (permalink)
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We'll propably sign two, maybe three players.

A striker, right defender... and maybe Veloso (big maybe).

I just hope, Manucho will get that bloody work permit, this summer.
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:11   #22 (permalink)
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1) Manucho is coming, and he'll probably get his work permit. (If it starts looking like he won't get it, we might have to change our attitude). So we need a third or fourth choice striker.

2) We have a winger who scores more goals per game than even legendary strikers. Our attacking game goes through Ronaldo, so we are not in the market for someone to center our attack around. We are in the market for an effective role player.

3) The Glazers maybe aren't going to want to spend big. They are reaping the rewards of last summer's investment (possible lucrative double), and maybe now is the time to start paying off some of the principal on that debt?

Why we will spend big this summer (perhaps) :

1) We bid for Karem Benzema in Jan for a fee reportedly of around £21 million

2) Nobody can possibly be stupid enough to think Saha's contributions will come good next season, so we must be shipping him out and replacing him.

3) I heard a Ryan Giggs interview the other day. He said "If you look at it, we normally spend even more money when we do win things." And he's pretty much right. We do tend to. And we're on the verge of a league and champions league double. We are absolutely full in most areas except fullback, the striker department being our weakest by a margin.
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:16   #23 (permalink)
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Why we will spend big this summer (perhaps) :

1) We bid for Karem Benzema in Jan for a fee reportedly of around £21 million

2) Nobody can possibly be stupid enough to think Saha's contributions will come good next season, so we must be shipping him out and replacing him.

3) I heard a Ryan Giggs interview the other day. He said "If you look at it, we normally spend even more money when we do win things." And he's pretty much right. We do tend to. And we're on the verge of a league and champions league double. We are absolutely full in most areas except fullback, the striker department being our weakest by a margin.
Agreed on points 2) and 3), but it's not official nor even reported by a reliable source that we bid for Benzema.

I'd love him to come, but it looks highly unlikely, at least this year.
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:44   #24 (permalink)
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Agreed on points 2) and 3), but it's not official nor even reported by a reliable source that we bid for Benzema.

I'd love him to come, but it looks highly unlikely, at least this year.
Well its about as reliable as we're going to get it. Aulas comes out and says it and then days later, SAF has an interview lauding the boy. You'd think if it wasnt true he'd add "but we havent put in a bid" somewhere. He didnt. He didnt mention it at all. Just praised him as much as he possibly could. And that, for me, says it was true.
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:47   #25 (permalink)
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Where all those Veloso signings came from?

Funny stuff, we are full on midfield if you didnt know. You Caftards can work for Tribalbollocks.
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:51   #26 (permalink)
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Well its about as reliable as we're going to get it. Aulas comes out and says it and then days later, SAF has an interview lauding the boy. You'd think if it wasnt true he'd add "but we havent put in a bid" somewhere. He didnt. He didnt mention it at all. Just praised him as much as he possibly could. And that, for me, says it was true.
Granted Fergie praised him and would probably like to have him in his team, but at the other hand Benzema himself has been quoted numerous times as saying he prefers Italy or Spain to England as the Premiership doesn't appeal to him. He also said that he wants to stay at Lyon for at least one more season to gain more experience.

As much as I would love it to happen, I don't think there's a chance of signing the boy, especially not in the coming transfer window.
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Im beginning to think Valencia off wigan could be one of our summer signings. I think his profile fits. Not because of his 2 goals at the weekend either! Hes young (22) has settled into the premiership. He was excellent in the world cup and is a player who I think is developing constantly. For under 7 million I think he'd be a good signing for the future.
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no striker guarantees goals , but if ronaldo plays up front as a striker , he will score loads .. he does it for portugal
He didn't do much against Barcelona playing up front. He's better off coming in from the left or right where has room to operate. United need a true center forward like Berbatov.
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