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Cekscrayons
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1) Berbatov has Champions League experience, and those players you have listed are all unrealistic, bar Eto'o. Torres? Are you serious? Afther the whole Heinz affair, do you really think they would sell their best player? Adebayor? Arsenal already turned down an offer last season. Why would they sell their top scorer? Especially to their main rivals. Benzema? Doesn't seem attracted to the PL for some strange reason. 2) I agree that Berbatov's attitude is questionable. However I do feel he would be very happy at OT, and under SAF, I wouldn't forecast any Berbatov attitude problems. 3) United already have a relatively young strikeforce. Why wait for seasons to come anyway; Berbatov is already in his prime. |
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2) Rooney throws his shirt at the bench, Ronaldo wasnt happy when he got taken off after spanking you lot, big players dont like losing. Fergie is a master of the egotistical footballer, there is nobody who has the experience he has with footballers. Ramos has done pretty well with Berbatov considering they dont speak the same language. He has always come across as quite reserved in interviews that i have heard, and thats what i would base my judgement on, not his occasionally "sluggish" style or attitude. 3) Tottenham know they will be selling him this summer, he has been respectful and not thrown strops about a transfer. They have to accept that it is his time, and they will. He is 27, so Spurs will not get a fee of 30 million, nobody bar Chelsea and maybe Real Madrid would pay that, and they will probably be in for other targets ie Eto'o. Madrid have changed philosophy's and seem to be investing in youth as opposed to older players, they probably wont pay big big money like you are talking. 4) Nobody would expect Berbatov to last ten years, 7 or 8 years, which would be the best of his career would be good value for money considering what he would (arguably) bring to the team. Benzema is not really an option considering his resistance to a move to us, Berbatov his though, will Fergie want to settle for anything less (somebody outside of these two) in possibly his last 5 years (if that) as manager? I think not. |
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Thats a really good point there. |
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With games midweek and at weekends, then the world club championship, there are going to be plenty of fixtures for three strikers, thats not accounting injuries either (Rooney). He will be doing bench time whichever big club he goes to, he might have objected at Tottenham but he knows he will have to make sacrifices for greater rewards, Fergie is a master at this anyways. |
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If it's intelligence your after there are many more options, Ashton is a much more intelligent player than Berbatov. Though Berbatov is better in other area's but then if it is just intelligence there you go. Quote:
Rooney and Ronaldo do it because they want to help Manchester United achieve, Berbatov does it because he thinks he is better than being subbed and he can't whore himslef out if he isn't playing. I think the reason that Berbatov and Ramos have got on well is that Ramos knows he is leaving and respects that Yes Fergusson has had some troubled players in his time but I don't think he can change every player. He probably could change Berbatov's attitude but it's not guaranteed. Quote:
Who knows what fee they will get, Spurs wont let him go for cheap, I don't think he would go for under 30 million even though I don't think he is worth that Quote:
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Rooney-Berbatov Nani------------Ronaldo Rooney-Tevez Nani-----------Ronaldo Berbatov-Tevez Nani------------Ronaldo 433: Berbatov Rooney---Ronaldo Rooney Tevez----Ronaldo Berbatov Tevez-----Rooney |
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united.7
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I think he has given Tottenham good times, and deserves his transfer after helping them to a rare piece of silverware and some great football. I dont know what age you are living in, footballers leave clubs. He deserves to showcase his talent, he doesnt owe it to Tottenham. I can respect what Shearer did at Newcastle, but at the end of the day if Berbatov is ambitious and wants to prove himself then why cant he ask for a move (like Carrick) (in private)? Its not as if Tottenham were his boyhood club. They will make a packet on him anyways. Berbatovs attitude is a bit of a myth, he can be petulant, like most footballers including Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo, Cantona etc. He has not made negative statements about the club or manager, the trademark of a true rebel ie Eto'o. Even near the end, when Jol was shit, Berbatov kept pretty quiet. If he is winning trophies, playing in important games, with great players then he wont complain. I dont know anyone in the world who is that big headed, maybe Mayweather, but Berbatov doesnt come across half that arrogant, more a little misunderstood. |
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united.7
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Its a big carousel of the same points going around again and again... Read the replies, he wont go for that, nobody will pay 35 million. That would be the third biggest transfer ever, dont be silly, its a bollocks price made up by Tottenham to scare off people in January. They have now said he does have a price, which wont be that one. There are other strikers on the market, not all the interest will be focused on Berbatov, Madrid dont pay those fees for older players anymore and Chelsea will be after Eto'o in my opinion. Inflated markets, but hes not quite Zidane or Figo, and Tottenham arent quite Juventus or Barcelona. |
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