Why we won't spend big on a striker this year

united.7 · 7th May 2008, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Yes, he'll just click his fingers and Spurs will accept our £20 million, even though Chelsea are offering £30 million.

Get real, this isn't FM, or such shite.

FM is known for inflated fees, this is the real world, remember?

We are being realistic here, you are talking about the biggest transfer between 2 English clubs ever, and the 3rd most expensive transfer ever.

Sam#1 · 7th May 2008, 01:03

I give up.

This evening has made me realise why I try and avoid the transfer forum.

I'll now leave you lads to wank over Berbatov/Benzema/Eto/Whoever

G'night.

esmufc07 · 7th May 2008, 01:04

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

I give up.

This evening has made me realise why I try and avoid the transfer forum.

I'll now leave you lads to wank over Berbatov/Benzema/Eto/Whoever

G'night.

You say that, but you'll still check in every single minute of every single day.

lao · 7th May 2008, 01:05

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

I give up.

This evening has made me realise why I try and avoid the transfer forum.

I'll now leave you lads to wank over Berbatov/Benzema/Eto/Whoever

G'night.

Cos' you can't bring good arguments to back up your views?

Better go to sleep, you've probably got a big elementary school day tomorrow.

Wes · 7th May 2008, 01:06

ahem.

esmufc07 · 7th May 2008, 01:08

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Originally Posted by lao

Cos' you can't bring good arguments to back up your views?

Better go to sleep, you've probably got a big elementary school day tomorrow.

You're the one who sounds like they have elementary school tomorrow, not Sam.

united.7 · 7th May 2008, 01:08

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Originally Posted by Wes

emerging transfer muppets gorging themselves.

You love it, otherwise you would not be in here.

Dont belittle and say you think we are ridiculously funny.

Anyways...

This is as much a debate about his abilities as anything else, i wont deny that i love a bit of transfer muppetry as you call it. Were lads, we fantasize, dont we?

To everyone:

Edit: I hate it how it always ends up with petty insults about muppetry and whatnot, i understand that a lot of shit is banded about but it isnt always relevant to use re-use the same slant (blatantly started by the admin, who are very much sucked up to) because you havent properly expressed your views. Its a cliche

Wes · 7th May 2008, 01:11

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Originally Posted by united.7

You love it, otherwise you would not be in here.

Dont belittle and say you think we are ridiculously funny.

Anyways...

This is as much a debate about his abilities as anything else, i wont deny that i love a bit of transfer muppetry as you call it. Were lads, we fantasize, dont we?

Its the only thread with posting in it atm. Plus, I'm interested in discussing transfers from time to time, but I don't abide muppetry, lil feller.

united.7 · 7th May 2008, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Wes

Its the only thread with posting in it atm. Plus, I'm interested in discussing transfers from time to time, but I don't abide muppetry, lil feller.

At what point did this become muppetry?

All i have seen is well reasoned views, backed up and consolidated by other members, big man.

Wes · 7th May 2008, 01:15

Fair enough, I'll not bother.

cekscrayons · 7th May 2008, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Wes

Its the only thread with posting in it atm. Plus, I'm interested in discussing transfers from time to time, but I don't abide muppetry, lil feller.

Wes, debating whether or not Berbatov will be an ideal acquisition, isn't 'muppetry'. Especially when SAF has previously tryed to sign him; aswell as him being effectively up for sale at the end of the season. Unless you don't think Utd need another striker ofcoarse?

If anybody got made to look silly, it was cockneyhammer, and Sam#1 among others. No offence.

GlastonSpur · 7th May 2008, 01:24

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

£35 million for a 27 (will be nearing 28 come the Summer) year old, is ridiculous.

Berbatov will not nearing 28 until January of next year. In any case, 27 is not exactly near retirement age is it?

In any case, whether Fergie wanted him or not, I think you've missed the boat since I hear that AC Milan may have got him. Don't hold me 100% on this, but I reckon it could well be true.

It certainly ties in with Levy's preference, all things being equal, to avoid selling him to a Prem club.

CockneyHammer · 7th May 2008, 01:25

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Originally Posted by cekscrayons

Wes, debating whether or not Berbatov will be an ideal acquisition, isn't 'muppetry'. Especially when SAF has previously tryed to sign him; aswell as him being effectively up for sale at the end of the season. Unless you don't think Utd need another striker ofcoarse?

If anybody got made to look silly, it was cockneyhammer, and Sam#1 among others. No offence.

If your silly for having an opinion so be it.

Things like spelling of course, ofcoarse makes you silly

Add in tried as tryed and the silly certificate goes to you Sir.

Fergies Formula · 7th May 2008, 01:29

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

Berbatov will not nearing 28 until January of next year. In any case, 27 is not exactly near retirement age is it?

In any case, whether Fergie wanted him or not, I think you've missed the boat since I hear that AC Milan may have got him. Don't hold me 100% on this, but I reckon it could well be true.

It certainly ties in with Levy's preference, all things being equal, to avoid selling him to a Prem club.

What price do you think a transfer would fetch for berbatov?

Id be happy to pay 25 million no more,

cekscrayons · 7th May 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by cockneyHammer

If your silly for having an opinion so be it.

Things like spelling of course, ofcoarse makes you silly

Add in tried as tryed and the silly certificate goes to you Sir.

Im dyslexic. I try, but its late and without spell check I tend to slip up.

Thanks.

Edit: Aren't we here to talk football? Not punctuation, spelling, and grammar.

CockneyHammer · 7th May 2008, 01:34

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Originally Posted by cekscrayons

Im dyslexic. I try, but its late and without spell check I tend to slip up.

Thanks.

Edit: Aren't we here to talk football? Not punctuation, spelling, and grammar.

There is a spell check, top right when you reply, you need to download it though

GlastonSpur · 7th May 2008, 01:37

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Originally Posted by Fergies Formula

What price do you think a transfer would fetch for berbatov?

Id be happy to pay 25 million no more,

I'd say 25m at the very least and probably closer to 30m, possibly even more.

But as I said above, I think it's too late for United now and a deal with AC Milan has been done if Spurs ITKs are correct - no 100% guarantee on this info.

Hopefully we'll get Gattuso in part exchange

cekscrayons · 7th May 2008, 01:37

Cheers, that will actually help.

cekscrayons · 7th May 2008, 01:40

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

I'd say 25m at the very least and probably closer to 30m, possibly even more.

But as I said above, I think it's too late for United now and a deal with AC Milan has been done if Spurs ITKs are correct - no 100% guarantee on this info.

Hopefully we'll get Gattuso in part exchange

This Milan link could be true. Still think it will be in the region of 35m?

If it is true, atleast it will answer that question.

lao · 7th May 2008, 01:40

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Originally Posted by esmufc07

You're the one who sounds like they have elementary school tomorrow, not Sam.

Attack of the 90s? I swear, I will never make fun of people under 18 again. Please, have mercy on me.

Fergies Formula · 7th May 2008, 01:42

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

I'd say 25m at the very least and probably closer to 30m, possibly even more.

But as I said above, I think it's too late for United now and a deal with AC Milan has been done if Spurs ITKs are correct - no 100% guarantee on this info.

Hopefully we'll get Gattuso in part exchange

He has probably already had prelimiary discussions with a few sides, i think its clear he is going to leave, i just hope united realise his talent and what he could do for us and bloody get him signed, he ticks all boxes for us apart from the age criteria.

I think we could push it for something like 25-26 mill

lao · 7th May 2008, 01:44

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Originally Posted by GlastonSpur

I'd say 25m at the very least and probably closer to 30m, possibly even more.

But as I said above, I think it's too late for United now and a deal with AC Milan has been done if Spurs ITKs are correct - no 100% guarantee on this info.

Hopefully we'll get Gattuso in part exchange

Sounds pretty logical since Gattuso seeked a Premiership move and Hotspur is in dieing need of a quality DM. :\

lao · 7th May 2008, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Fergies Formula

What price do you think a transfer would fetch for berbatov?

Id be happy to pay 25 million no more,

Could you lend me 5? I'm in between jobs..

bbest · 7th May 2008, 05:25

Why is Berbatov not in the photo shoot?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1779

Alex · 7th May 2008, 05:30

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

I give up.

This evening has made me realise why I try and avoid the transfer forum.

I'll now leave you lads to wank over Berbatov/Benzema/Eto/Whoever

G'night.

Come on how many years does SAF have left he is building this squad up to a special level, and I have no doubt he will improve this off season

devilish · 7th May 2008, 06:07

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Originally Posted by united.7

I dont agree that we need a striker to sit on the bench and "wait his chance".

Our 2 formations are:

4-4-2

and

4-3-3

I think Fergie prefers the 4-4-2, which is when we play our best football, but there is nobody to stretch the defences like Saha did. We were playing our best football at the beginning of last season when we had Saha/Rooney up top, and Ronaldo/Giggs on the wings. That balance, is what we are looking for.

Im sure everyone was in agreeance that a quality centre forward is our exact requirment, and i cant see Fergie (while claiming to be fighting on three fronts) going with Rooney/Tevez/Manucho. Campbell seems to be doing ok, but James Beattie has scored a lot of goals in the first division, we cant quantify how good he is by what he has achieved in a lower league.

It is going to take in excess of 15 million for us to get a striker, who, may or may not develop into the next best thing. Berbatov will cost around the 25 million mark, thats tail end, the guy is begging out to play Champions League football. On top of this he has stayed at Tottenham for two years, he has kept his mouth shut, given them good times, but this is his time, he has got move to a big club, and he looks like he is already half way out of north London. He is also proven in the premiership, and i think he would complete our strikeforce.

Tevez didnt like playing on the bench at West Ham, so why should Berbatov at Tottenham when he is clearly the best player? It came at a time when le Spurs were doing shit, and he wasnt chosen, i would be pissed off, but at Man Utd; where nobody is bigger than the club, then i would keep it quiet and wait my chance, like im sure he would.

'Sitting on the bench and waiting for your chance' doesnt mean that we should bring in a shite striker. Pato was brought by AC Milan for that role, same thing can be said about Suazo while Ole had played in that role for years.

The thing is that you are expecting the club to spend 20m for a 27 yr old striker who had thrown tamtrums whenever he was sent on the bench. That situation is far from ideal expecially considering his age and the fact that we already have two 20m rated strikers upfront. What we need is someone good, who wouldnt mind doing sacrifices for the team and that may also mean, sitting on the bench and watch the SAME STRIKING PARTNERSHIP which got us to the CL final and so near to the EPL title play. No weak forward line would have achieved that. What we need is quality cover and not another 20m rated striker.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 7th May 2008, 07:48

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Originally Posted by talking robot

1) Manucho is coming, and he'll probably get his work permit. (If it starts looking like he won't get it, we might have to change our attitude). So we need a third or fourth choice striker.

2) We have a winger who scores more goals per game than even legendary strikers. Our attacking game goes through Ronaldo, so we are not in the market for someone to center our attack around. We are in the market for an effective role player.

3) The Glazers maybe aren't going to want to spend big. They are reaping the rewards of last summer's investment (possible lucrative double), and maybe now is the time to start paying off some of the principal on that debt?

most importantly breaking up the Rooney and Tevez combo would not be necessary

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