Álvaro Morata | Performances

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  1. Jan 18, 2018

    Terminator New Member

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    Lukaku's all round play has been brilliant thus far, wish more of our players could play like him. I was expecting an oaf after reading some comments in the thread when Lukaku signed for us.
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    AR87 Full Member

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    Against Arsenal he made critical contributions in the build up for both of Lingard's goals. He's quite clearly capable of more than banging in goals like a poacher even though he has scope for improvement in holding up the ball and his first touch.
  3. Jan 18, 2018

    kps88 Full Member

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    He's struggling physically. Doesn't help that Chelsea don't have another decent striker to rotate him with.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Staff

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    Plus this is the first time in his career in which he has been entrusted with the job of being the main striker. I suppose he'll be much better in the next season but just makes you appreciate more the kind of striker Costa was when he was arsed.
  5. Jan 18, 2018

    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Or Overrate Morata as if he is some Benzema at his peak.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    He is clearly a little snowflake that goes to the ground on every contact. Please don't try to find excuses for a 1.85m striker who goes down like being shot on every little nudge. He is a diver, and he's been doing that for a while.
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    MAME DIOUF 32 Full Member

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    I haven't seen the other dives from him this season but it seems like it's universally accepted that he's a diver so I'll accept that you and others are right on that.

    But in this case, he's grabbed on the shoulders while running through the penalty area. It's a foul. It's been discussed countless times - if you don't go down, you don't get a penalty. Referees have created this problem by avoiding making decisions.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    The worst thing is that he keeps doing it whereas it's not working much. He should realize that being stronger on the ball might actually yield more fouls given because the refs would stupidly go "this guy is strong so he is falling maybe it's a foul". Costa was a master at this. Knowing when to absorb a challenge and when it generate a FK
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    Kostov Full Member

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    He was not really grabbed, it was a contact not enough for a penalty, the defender put his arm on his shoulder and he immediately went on the floor. If that's a penalty we might as well change the rules and make football a non contact sport.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    Exactly. I would go the lengths and say Lukaku is fouled just as much as Morata, but referees rarely give any foul to Rom probably because he doesn't go down as much as the other.
  11. Feb 9, 2018

    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    What's up with the donkey?
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    I think back problem.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Interesting.
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    Di Maria's angel Captain of Moanchester United

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    Dodged a bullet, it seems.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Sounds like a get out from being forced to give an estimate on Morata if they are giving him a mid season break to get his mind right.
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    RedCurry Full Member

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    You have to feel for the player here. He’s clearly ambitious enough to leave the comfort of his home and move abroad to get first team football. But weight of expectations from him was always going to be too much. Playing full 90 minutes in a physical league was always going to be a challenge.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    Indeed. Though I'd say he was doing well enough before the injury.
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    prateik Full Member

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    Not really. Not for a striker playing for the champions.
    He was OK. Not terrible.
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    hn4manunited Full Member

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    Morata has all the potential to be top class but he needs the environment of a right club to allow him to grow into it.

    Conte’s dealings with losing Costa was always spelling the beginning of the end for him time at Chelsea.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    They hardly look like champions this season and when they have been playing well he was a part of that.
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    That may be the difference. The "physical league" part sounds really cliche. Plenty players from abroad have dealt easily with the supposed extra layer of physicality the PL offers.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    And plenty have struggled. In fact, you could argue most have struggled, seeing as how often we don't see the best of them until their second and subsequent seasons. The PL is definitely a more physical league than the other big European leagues, if only because of how differently it is refereed. Can you imagine a Spanish team getting away with kicking the feck out of Madrid the way Huddersfield did to us last weekend?
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    You wouldn't know it by the reaction on here any time he scored a goal, back when he did score the odd goal that is

    I was prepared to get behind him had we signed him due to the unknown potential he may have had but in hindsight from what we've seen of him in a Chelsea shirt it's obvious why he was never first choice at Juve or Real
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    R.N7 Such tagline. Wow!

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    United made the right choice with Lukaku. Morata's fragileness wouldn't have played with JoMou.
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    Have you seen Atletico play?
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Sure. Not loads but enough. Never seen them get away with the sort of anti-football Huddersfield produced last weekend though.
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    Premier League is more physical though. Every top manager who managed in other leagues have mentioned it including Jose and Pep. Some players who arrived from other leagues adapted to it(Silva, Salah etc.), others embraced it(Zlatan, Costa etc.). Morata will need to do it as well.
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    He's been meh, but I'd probably judge him from next season onwards. Fact is, this is the first time he has played so many games as first choice, and that transition is something his body may not be used to. Also, couple this with the fact that he's playing in a more physical league.

    If he flops next season as well, then I suppose he will never hit the highs we thought he was capable of. Probably the next Milan striker then.
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    I heard he hurt his back fishing, for a move back to Real.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    On the bench tonight, Conte pulling a Pep overstating an injury :rolleyes:
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    Theafonis In love with @Eboue

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    Excellent news
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    golden_blunder Site admin. Manchester United fan Staff

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    Morata plays better in a 2. Chelsea system not helping him
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    At this point Giroud is a superior player.
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    NYAS Full Member

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    But...but...link-up play...:(
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    Bubz27 ACMarket employee

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    Spends more time moaning and on the ground. Chelsea will do well to recoup 3/4 of what they paid for him.

    Signing him was always a risk, but one worth taking at the time I think. Whoever signed him was putting faith in the fact he could go on and lead the line for a top team. As it happens, he leads the line for Chelsea.
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    Zoo Full Member

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    Put to shame by Olivier Giroud.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    He is a snowflake
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    Giroud is very underrated.
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    Good one
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    He was horrible today.