2018/19 NFL Thread

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    Draft is April 26-28. Thread will then fold into the 2018/19 season thread.


    USA Today Mock Draft:


    The draft is almost four months away, but more than half of the NFL's teams have turned their focus to next season.

    Any mock draft compiled at this point will be inherently flawed, as underclassmen have until Jan. 15 to decide whether to declare or to stay in college. With that said, here's our initial look at how the first round might pan out based on the league's projected order (picks 1-20 are essentially set).

    1. Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California: Darnold's positioning here might be precarious, as a 24-turnover season highlighted concerns about his footwork and ability to identify coverages. But few can match his playmaking ability and long-term potential, and his style and demeanor might be what Hue Jackson and GM John Dorsey need to give the organization some sense of direction.

    2. Giants — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA: New GM Dave Gettleman seems prepared to move ahead with Eli Manning next season, but it will be hard to forego drafting a quarterback with the organization's first top-five pick in 14 years. In Rosen, the Giants would get one of the most mechanically sound pocket passers in years. Concerns about his outspoken style and proclivity for forcing throws will dominate the pre-draft discussion, but sitting behind Manning before he takes the reins could provide a promising transition.

    3. Colts — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State: Given its languid pass rush and offensive line that gave up a league-worst 56 sacks this season, Indianapolis might be hard-pressed to take a running back this high, especially in a deep class. Barkley, however, is the sort of do-everything weapon who can be a transformational piece and give quarterback Andrew Luck the help he'll need in a potential return. And it doesn't hurt his case that owner Jim Irsay recently advocated for giving Luck an "Edgerrin James type of player."

    4. Browns (from Texans) — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama: With quarterback addressed, Cleveland can look to add another building block to join Myles Garrett on defense. Fitzpatrick's versatility will make him an immediate asset on a unit that recorded just seven interceptions last season.

    5. Broncos — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame: Quarterback remains the foremost concern in Denver, as John Elway said there was "no doubt" the team had to improve at the position. Finding a suitable option in free agency or via trade, however, might be the preferable route given what's likely to be available at this juncture in the draft. A guard at No. 5 might seem high, but Nelson is the best lineman in the draft and can be a stabilizing, Pro Bowl-level presence for years.


    6. Jets — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma: Even if 38-year-old Josh McCown gets an encore after an admirable year as a starter, the Jets need to find their long-term solution at some point. Although lacking prototypical size at 6-1, Mayfield displays the accuracy and decision-making to thrive in the NFL if he's paired with a creative coach and offensive coordinator.

    7. Buccaneers — Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State: The best pass rusher in the draft falls into the lap of the team that had a league-worst 22 sacks in 2017. With 20 sacks and 44 tackles for loss in the last two years, Chubb is a proven product who checks lots of boxes for 4-3 teams in need of an edge rusher.

    8. Bears — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama: Mitchell Trubisky needs weapons if Chicago is to give the NFL's worst passing attack a pulse. Although there's no clear-cut top option at receiver, Ridley will threaten defenses downfield and open up opportunities for others within the offense.

    x-9. 49ers — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU: For all the promise Kyle Shanahan's offense showed as Jimmy Garoppolo went 5-0 as a starter, San Francisco still needs a big-bodied receiver. At 6-4 and 215 pounds, former basketball player Sutton can win 50-50 balls and boost a red-zone offense that ranked as one of the league's worst (47% touchdown rate).

    x-10. Raiders — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia: Oakland's defense has little to offer outside of Khalil Mack and needs assistance at almost every level. With excellent instincts and a knack for finding the ball, Smith might end up a foundational figure for whichever team drafts him.

    11. Dolphins — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma: Miami can save $9 million by moving on from Ja'Wuan James at right tackle, and the line was one of several sore spots for the offense this season. The massive Brown (6-8, 345 pounds) can bring a physical tone to an attack that had just four rushing touchdowns.

    12. Bengals — Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame: An inability to provide consistent protection or open running lanes doomed Cincinnati's skill positions from finding sustainable success. McGlinchey is well-rounded and experienced, though he might need time to adjust to facing the NFL's elite speed rushers.

    13. Redskins — Derwin James, S, Florida State: A torn lateral meniscus in 2016 and disappointing season for the Seminoles this season tempered the buzz for one of college football's most physically gifted defenders. While medical checks will be paramount for his evaluation, James' ability to be deployed in multiple roles should keep him in demand. Washington scraped by at safety last season and would stand to get an immediate upgrade.

    14. Packers — Arden Key, DE-OLB, LSU: On physical tools alone, the 6-6 Key looks like a top-five pick. But concerns about his injury history and substantial weight gain last season will follow him through the pre-draft process. Green Bay needs to reinvigorate its defense, and Key's value at this spot is enticing.

    15. Cardinals — Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville: The retirements of Carson Palmer and Bruce Arians leave Arizona essentially starting from scratch offensively. Although it's unclear what direction the next coaching staff will take, Jackson could pair with David Johnson to give the Cardinals one of the NFL's most dynamic backfields.

    16. Ravens — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State: Baltimore's longstanding woes at wide receiver reached a crescendo in 2017, with Joe Flacco averaging a career-low 5.7 yards per attempt in a dink-and-dunk attack. Despite lacking the physical profile of an elite target, Washington has proved he can win both by hauling in deep throws and by creating separation.

    17. Chargers — Connor Williams, OT, Texas: Philip Rivers was sacked the fewest times (18) of any season in which he has been a full-time starter, but the run game fell flat at times. Williams could start off on the right side and eventually take over for Russell Okung.

    18. Seahawks — Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio: Pete Carroll's defenses depend on creating havoc up front, and uncertain futures for Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett could limit Seattle's options. Enter Davenport, a little-known edge rusher who shouldn't fly under the radar for long given his impressive length and array of moves.

    19. Cowboys — Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson: Dallas' front four is in the best shape it's been in for some time, though the team will have to figure out how to keep DE DeMarcus Lawrence as well as handle restricted free agent David Irving. Regardless of how free agency shakes out, Wilkins would add further depth on the interior with an attractive blend of quickness and power.

    20. Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU: Ignoring the pass rush might be difficult, especially if Ziggy Ansah goes elsewhere. But Detroit had the NFL's worst rushing attack and has finished in the bottom five in each of the last four years. Guice offers rare big-play ability and could take some of the pressure off quarterback Matthew Stafford.

    21. Titans — Harold Landry, DE-OLB, Boston College: Tennessee finished tied for fifth with 43 sacks, but it could still use some fresh blood off the edge. A natural pass rusher with outstanding bend, Landry should provide quick returns if he can improve his strength.

    22. Bills — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming: Touted as a potential No. 1 overall pick before the season, he offered only glimpses of his potential as he completed 56.3% of his passes. Yet some team will look past the erratic ball placement and suspect field vision, instead focusing on the player he could become given his arm strength and 6-5, 230-pound build. Buffalo revealed its misgivings on Tyrod Taylor via a midseason benching, and just $1 million of the veteran's 2018 salary is guaranteed.

    23. Jaguars — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M: With Allen Robinson and Marqise Lee set to become free agents, Jacksonville might need to add a young target. Kirk excels at taking short throws for long gains and would further reduce the burden on Blake Bortles (or whoever is under center next season in Jacksonville).

    24. Bills (from Chiefs) — Vita Vea, DT, Washington: Defensive-minded coach Sean McDermott has to be stewing over his run defense, which gave up an NFL-high 22 touchdowns this season. The 6-5, 340-pound Vea not only commands double teams but also delivers a serious push up front.

    25. Falcons — Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan: Dontari Poe is set to become a free agent, and Atlanta could use another asset on the interior to place next to Grady Jarrett. Hurst somewhat duplicates Jarrett's relatively compact frame, but he's powerful and disruptive against both the run and pass.

    26. Rams — Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State: Although lacking the elite ball skills and closing speed of former Buckeyes teammate Marshon Lattimore, Ward is a standout cover corner who should be the fourth Ohio State product at his position to be taken in the first round since 2016. Los Angeles' interest could intensify if Trumaine Johnson departs after being franchise-tagged the last two years.

    27. Saints — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas: Improved play at linebacker was a crucial part of New Orleans' defensive surge, but more athleticism is needed at the position. Jefferson brings plenty of that, though questions linger about why his collegiate production didn't match his potential.

    28. Panthers — Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson: Carolina cobbled together an ultimately impressive pass rush thanks in large part to 37-year-old Julius Peppers, who tied for the team lead with 11 sacks. Ferrell has the length and burst that defenses seek in edge rushers, and the 20-year-old should only become more productive as he refines his game.

    29. Steelers — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa: Pittsburgh's previously top-ranked pass defense slipped late in the season as cornerback Artie Burns and others made repeated mistakes. Jackson, who led the Football Bowl Subdivision with eight interceptions, brings the size (6-1, 192 pounds) and skill set necessary to handle man coverage against the Patriots and other premier passing attacks.

    30. Eagles — Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan: Jason Peters' season-ending knee injury highlighted the need to find another offensive tackle, even if the 35-year-old returns next season. A three-year starter, Okorafor could continue to polish his game and provide all-important protection for Carson Wentz.

    31. Patriots — Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State: There's no such thing as too many pass rushers in New England, which has several young options but no standouts. The Urban Meyer pipeline could continue with Hubbard, a well-rounded (albeit unflashy) defender.

    32. Vikings — Billy Price, C-G, Ohio State: One year after finding a steal in third-round center Pat Elflein, Minnesota could look to Columbus, Ohio, again to further bolster its interior line. Price won the Rimington Trophy as the country's best center but has the versatility to thrive at guard as well.

    x-Order to be determined by coin flip at later date
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    http://walterfootball.com/draft2018.php

    They update at various times leading up to the draft and you can view their previous submissions so you can track the changes if you like.

    Plus they go several rounds deep into the draft
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    Do we really need a separate thread?
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    Interesting to see how Saquon Barkley does in the NFL. Very exciting player.
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    Yes. Think of it as a transfer thread.
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    Probably the best RB on the board. I also think Nick Chubb's stock is going to rise before the draft.
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    Terrified of Rosen, he's thrown in some awful games this year. Don't count out the Giants reloading with Eli and somehow ending up taking a defensive lineman in the 1st round.
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    Cowherd was speculating this morning that the Bellicheck may bail this year and join the Giants, who are sitting on the #2 pick, which could very well be Rosen or Josh Allen.
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    I'm genuinely fascinated to see where Lamar Jackson will go. He could be the most electric player in the league; possibly even better than Vick was.
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    Cowherd is a piece of shit. He has no clue who he wants to be. He hates on players for no reason. He is like a shittier Skip Bayless. Skip was full of shit too but at least he stuck to his guns and maintained one viewpoint unlike this dilly-dallying sumbitch!
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    After the SUper Bowl we can convert this to next seasons thread plus say no to mega threads. since this is really more about next season we should be okay with a new thread
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    Ok. :nervous:
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    The megathreads thing is generally for the football forums. Having a separate draft thread for a few months will be better than having too much draft chatter in the NFL thread from now until the Super Bowl, so i started a separate one. That and the fact that the draft itself isn't part of the NFL playing season.
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    Giants need to address their running game and O-line in particular.
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    Seahawks are not going to stay in the first round, they need those picks in the second and third round. Could see them picking OL or DL again. Really hope they don't go for a RB first.
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    Mel Kiper's Top 10 at each position


    Offense


    Quarterbacks

    1. * Josh Rosen, UCLA
    2. ** Sam Darnold, USC
    3. * Josh Allen, Wyoming
    4. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
    5. * Drew Lock, Missouri
    6. Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
    7. * Lamar Jackson, Louisville
    8. Mike White, Western Kentucky
    9. Luke Falk, Washington State
    10. Kurt Benkert, Virginia
    Lock is an underclassman to keep an eye on. He really finished the season strong as Missouri won six straight games and he had 43 touchdown passes to 12 interceptions.


    Running backs
    1. * Saquon Barkley, Penn State
    2. * Bryce Love, Stanford
    3. * Derrius Guice, LSU
    4. * Ronald Jones II, USC
    5. * Damien Harris, Alabama
    6. Nick Chubb, Georgia
    7. * Kerryon Johnson, Auburn
    8. Rashaad Penny, San Diego State
    9. Royce Freeman, Oregon
    10. Sony Michel, Georgia
    So Barkley is the clear No. 1, and after that it's going to come down to testing numbers at the combine. Harris is one of my favorite prospects in this class. Johnson is banged up but has had a breakout 2017 season.

    Fullbacks/H-backs
    1. Jaylen Samuels, NC State
    2. Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
    3. Nick Bawden, San Diego State
    4. Khalid Hill, Michigan
    5. * Winston Dimel, Kansas State
    6. Austin Ramesh, Wisconsin
    7. Daniel Marx, Stanford
    8. Garrett Dickerson, Northwestern
    9. J.D. Moore, LSU
    10. * Alec Ingold, Wisconsin
    Bawden is the best bruising fullback -- he's 6-foot-3, 245 pounds, and paves the way for fringe Heisman candidate Rashaad Penny.

    Wide receivers
    1. * Calvin Ridley, Alabama
    2. * Courtland Sutton, SMU
    3. Anthony Miller, Memphis
    4. * Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
    5. Michael Gallup, Colorado State
    6. * D.J. Moore, Maryland
    7. * Jordan Lasley, UCLA
    8. *Simmie Cobbs, Indiana
    9. * Parris Campbell, Ohio State
    10. James Washington, Oklahoma State
    Lasley has come on as Josh Rosen's No. 1 target, finishing the regular season with back-to-back 200-yard games.


    Tight ends

    1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State
    2. * Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
    3. Mike Gesicki, Penn State
    4. Ian Thomas, Indiana
    5. * Hayden Hurst, South Carolina
    6. Durham Smythe, Notre Dame
    7. Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin
    8. Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan
    9. * C.J. Conrad, Kentucky
    10. Christopher Herndon, Miami (Fla.)
    Smythe has only 26 career catches for the Fighting Irish, but he has some receiving skills. He might be a better pro than college player.

    Offensive tackles
    1. Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
    2. * Connor Williams, Texas
    3. * Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
    4. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi State
    5. Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan
    6. Desmond Harrison, West Georgia
    7. Tyrell Crosby, Oregon
    8. Timon Parris, Stony Brook
    9. Brandon Parker, NC A&T
    10. Jamarco Jones, Ohio State
    Harrison is a Texas transfer who also spent time at a junior college. Jones has really improved from last season.

    Offensive guards
    1. * Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
    2. Braden Smith, Auburn
    3. Will Hernandez, UTEP
    4. Isaiah Wynn, Georgia
    5. Cody O'Connell, Washington State
    6. * Sam Jones, Arizona State
    7. Brendan Mahon, Penn State
    8. Austin Corbett, Nevada
    9. KC McDermott, Miami (Fla.)
    10. Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
    O'Connell is massive -- 6-foot-8, 354 pounds.

    Centers
    1. Billy Price, Ohio State
    2. Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
    3. * James Daniels, Iowa
    4. * Will Clapp, LSU
    5. Mason Cole, Michigan
    6. * Alec Eberle, Florida State
    7. Scott Quessenberry, UCLA
    8. * Sam Mustipher, Notre Dame
    9. Brian Allen, Michigan State
    10. Patrick Morris, TCU
    It's not a strong center class past the top two, and Ragnow was injured in October and hasn't played since.
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    Mel Kiper's Top 10 at each position


    Defense


    Defensive ends
    1. Bradley Chubb, NC State
    2. ** Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
    3. * Rasheem Green, USC
    4. * Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
    5. * Austin Bryant, Clemson
    6. Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State
    7. * Ben Banogu, TCU
    8. * Jalen Jelks, Oregon
    9. Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest
    10. Marcus Davenport, Texas (SA)
    Green is probably an end in a 3-4. He has eight sacks this season. Jelks has 15 tackles for loss and 6.5 sacks.

    Defensive tackles
    1. * Christian Wilkins, Clemson
    2. * Vita Vea, Washington
    3. Da'Ron Payne, Alabama
    4. Maurice Hurst, Michigan
    5. * Taven Bryan, Florida
    6. * Harrison Phillips, Stanford
    7. * Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame
    8. **Dre'Mont Jones, Ohio State
    9. Derrick Nnadi, Florida State
    10. Josh Fatu, USC
    I have four tackles in my 25, but it's still early. We still don't have accurate sizes on Wilkins and Vea, who are at the top for now.

    Inside linebackers
    1. * Roquan Smith, Georgia
    2. Rashaan Evans, Alabama
    3. Josey Jewell, Iowa
    4. Micah Kiser, Virginia
    5. * Cameron Smith, USC
    6. * T.J. Edwards, Wisconsin
    7. Chris Worley, Ohio State
    8. Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama
    9. * Josh Watson, Colorado State
    10. Nyles Morgan, Notre Dame
    Kiser has 9.5 tackles for loss and 134 tackles this season.

    Outside linebackers
    1. * Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
    2. * Arden Key, LSU
    3. Harold Landry, Boston College
    4. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma
    5. * Josh Allen, Kentucky
    6. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
    7. Uchenna Nwosu, USC
    8. * Jerome Baker, Ohio State
    9. * Malik Jefferson, Texas
    10. * Jeff Holland, Auburn
    Holland has nine sacks this season after limited playing time in 2016.

    Cornerbacks
    1. * Denzel Ward, Ohio State
    2. * Joshua Jackson, Iowa
    3. * Isaiah Oliver, Colorado
    4. * Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State
    5. M.J. Stewart, North Carolina
    6. * Carlton Davis, Auburn
    7. * Jaire Alexander, Louisville
    8. Anthony Averett, Alabama
    9. * Donte Jackson, LSU
    10. Darius Phillips, Western Michigan
    The cornerback class could be deep. Stewart is a versatile player who will help a team in the return game.

    Safeties
    1. * Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
    2. ** Derwin James, Florida State
    3. * Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
    4. * Justin Reid, Stanford
    5. Armani Watts, Texas A&M
    6. Kyzir White, West Virginia
    7. * DeShon Elliott, Texas
    8. Jeremy Reaves, So. Alabama
    9. Quin Blanding, Virginia
    10. * Jaquan Johnson, Miami (Fla)
    Reid, whose brother is NFL safety Eric Reid, has five interceptions and 88 tackles this season.

    Kickers and punters
    1. Johnny Townsend, Florida (P)
    2. JK Scott, Alabama (P)
    3. * Michael Dickson, Texas (P)
    4. Shane Tripucka, Texas A&M (P)
    5. Daniel Carlson, Auburn (K)
    6. * Bryce Crawford, San Jose State (K)
    7. Trevor Daniel, Tennessee (P)
    8. * Matt Gay, PK, Utah
    9. * Jake Bailey, Stanford (P)
    10. Joe Davidson, Bowling Green (P)
    Townsend and Scott are definitely draftable prospects.
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    Any true stand out payers? I don’t follow college much but you often hear a player described as generational and potential HOF. Anyone who stands out against that?
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    Shaquon Barkley (RB). I think former pro scout Daniel Jeremiah said he is the highest graded RB since Adrian Peterson!
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    This is one of the best years ever at QB - so the perrenial teams in need of a good QB will definitely have plenty to chose from.

    QBs: Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, Allen, Rudolph, and Jackson will be good. Sleeper pick would be Kurt Benkurt

    RBs: Barkley is definitely tops, followed closely by Love, Penny, Chubb, and Michel. Sleeper pick would be Mark Walton (not listed).

    Defense: Ro'quan Smith (LB), Minkah Fitzpatrick (S), and Da'ron Payne (DT) will be in very high demand.

    Lots of other good players in this year's draft, which will almost certainly be overlooked then seemingly appear out of nowhere once the season starts because they never received any draft day hype from the pundits.
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    Mayfield telling the world where he wants to go

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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    Most first round mock draft send Price to Minnesota and a couple send Harrison Phillips. I would like both, I can only imagine what would happen to offenses if someone like Phillips was playing next to Linval Joseph and Hunter.
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    These are just guesses based on what draft pundits identify the Vikings need the most at various positions. For all we know, they could wind up with completely different players.
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    Disagree with the point about QB's - I think probably 5 will go in the 1st round but that's more indicative of the number of teams in need of one. For me at the top end, none of those guys (with Rosen probably being the best right now for me) being as strong/highly-rated/likely to hit as some of the other QB's who've come out in recent years like Wentz, Winston, Luck. Therefore I think a bit of a stretch to say one of the best years ever for the position.
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    I'd say this is easily the best year at QB since 1983/84 when Elway, Kelly, Marino and others came out.

    Rosen and Darnold are both top QBs. Luke Falk, Mason Rudolph and Josh Allen are each potential Wentz type players. Lamar Jackson a better version of Michael Vick and will do well for a team that wants more a dual threat QB. And of course Mayfield has incredible potential to be a Drew Brees type player. I can't think of any year since 83 that we've had this many great QBs in one class.

    The Browns, Jets, Redskins, Cardinals, Bills, and Saints have a primary need and a slew of other teams like the Giants, Broncos, Patriots, and others have secondary need this year so there will be plenty of spots including potentially eventual replacements for Brady, Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, and Cousins
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    Not that it’ll happen but it’d be pretty hilarious if Chiefs signed Cousins

    I can see him going to either the Browns or Cards tbh, maybe even Denver
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    If he went to the Browns, it would allow them to spend the 1 and 4 picks in other areas. Denver may be a stretch since I think the Broncos are better off drafting someone since there are so many good QBs coming out this year. Cards could be an option.
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    I think Cousins will sign with Cleveland. They're apparently so far under the cap they have gobs of money to toss at free agents. They can then use those two picks to draft Barkley and a top tier defensive player. They may actually be decent soon enough if things pan out.
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    Yep. Browns are idiots if they draft another QB early, haven’t they learned from the previous 500 they’ve drafted and failed on? A QB can only do so much and looking where Cleveland stand, no QB in the league let alone a rookie can flip the switch for that franchise. Not Brady, not Rodgers, nobody.

    They’d be much better signing Cousins to get some reliability and consistency at the position and draft an RB like Barkley to instantly improve their offense giving them a solid offense in which teams will finally have to respect both the run+pass game. The other pick idk since I don’t know what the Browns lack.
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    They could take Chubb at #1 (which would piss off the Colts) and then Barkley at #4

    This would throw everything into a bit of disarray since the Broncos would then be at #5 with at least one of Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield still available.
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    @Raoul I’d love to see that. Would shake things up considerably and I wonder how teams would approach the rest of the draft

    And as common sense as that sounds for the Browns to do, you just know they won’t and will probably pick a QB bust
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    USA Today predicting 8 SEC players will go in the first round this year.

    • No. 4 — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama — Cleveland Browns
    • No. 8 — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama — Chicago Bears
    • No. 10 — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia — Oakland Raiders
    • No. 14 — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama — Green Bay Packers
    • No. 16 — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU — Baltimore Ravens
    • No. 25 — Arden Key, LB/DE, LSU — Tennessee Titans
    • No. 26 — Da’Ron Payne, DL, Alabama — Atlanta Falcons
    • No. 29 — Ronnie Harrison, DB, Alabama — Jacksonville Jaguars
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    Draft is April 26-28. Since the last season is done and dusted, this thread will also double as the 2018/19 season thread.
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    Lads, it’s Cleveland.