70s Retro Football Fantasy Championship - DRAFT THREAD

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  1. Jan 31, 2012

    TheReligion Abusive

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    Can't believe no one picked any of these...

    Sonny Anderson
    Mario Jardel
    Adrian Ilie
    Luca Toni
    Diego Tristan
    Enrico Chiesa
    Vincenzo Montella

    Far better than some of the other strikers picked. I had a real dilemma when picking Salas but he was simply the best partner available for Trezeguet due to his speed.

    Some fantastic goal scorers in that list.

    Here are Jardel's stats in his prime...

    Vasco 26 goals in 50 matches
    Gremio 31 goals in 41 matches
    Porto 166 goals in 169 matches
    Galatasary 34 goals in 43 matches
    Sporting 67 goals in 62 matches

    Amazing really
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    Zen Full Member

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    Marco Negri > Jardel
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    TheReligion Abusive

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    Jardel has 336 goals in 442 games. A scoring ratio of 0.77!
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    Rood nostradamus like gloater

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    There are a lot of top strikers to choose from this era, which ones that were picked would you have put this lot ahead of?
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    Cold_Boy Banned

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    I considered all of them except Ilie and Jardel.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    Palermo as well
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    OK here's my tactics for game #1

    Overall approach

    It's a fluid 4-2-3-1, but in reality the front 4 are going to take turns in pummelling the opposition defence, each in different ways. Camoranesi's pin-point crossing will pick out Ruud (I seem to remember Ruud doing pretty well with another expert crosser in the past). Ruud himself will be the furthest forward, with Raul playing off him, and Del Pierro given license to roam and make a front 3 when attacking.

    The midfield two are extremely competent. Emerson will play as the destroyer, with Albertini's finesse and passing ability making him a deep-lying playmaker who will control the attacks, just like a latter day Scholes.

    The four defenders are all competent and solid. Simic and Iuliano both had long periods as stable and dependable defenders for Milan and Juve respectably, whilst Arce is a free kick specialist and equally adept at defending. Sergi, Barcelona's Denis Irwin will also provide a good balance at defending and providing width going forward to free up Del Piero so the Italian maestro can go roaming to cause misery for the opposition defence.

    Given the abilities of the front players primarily this lineup is fluid enough to switch from 4-2-3-1

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    to 4-3-1-2

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    depending on the conditions of the game.

    Individual biographies and player descriptions

    Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper

    He's been around longer than you think, making the Italian squad in 2000 and 2002 and has now made over 200 appearances for Milan, following spells on loan at Juve, Atletico and Torino. Dependable and solid.

    Francisco Arce Right back

    61 caps for Paraguay, tough in the tackle and prolific in the free kick department. Played primarily in South American leagues, amassing a raft of honours

    Sergi Left back

    Barcelona's Denis Irwin. Over 3090 apps in the 90s and rarely let them down. Part of their youth academy, so has all the attributes you'd expect: technically strong, brilliant passing, intelligent etc. Also has an impressive medal collection, having been part of their successful 90s team

    Dario Simic Centre back

    Croatia and Milan centre back. schooled in the Dinamo Zagreb production line which produced Prosinecki, Juric and Maric, went on to play for both Milan clubs and Monaco and earned 100 caps for Croatia

    Mark Iuliano Centre back

    Yet another strong Italian central defender, following Ferrara, Cannavaro, Montero et al by making over 200 appearances in the heart of Juves defence. Powerful and technically adept, Iuliano made 19 appearances for Italy even though the likes of Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini and Ferrara were at their peaks.

    Emerson Defensive midfielder

    Brazil's captain around the turn of the century, 73 caps. An outstanding defensive midfielder at his peak. Strong tackler and excellent passer. Won leagues in Brazil with Gremio, Italy with Juve and Roma and Spain with Real, as well as a load of cups as well at national and continental level

    Demetrio Albertini Central midfielder

    Classy midfielder and an integral part of the awesome Milan team who won 5 Serie As and 3 Champions League titles. 79 caps for Italy, more than 300 appearances for Milan and over 100 more at the top level with other clubs. Brilliant vision, passing and shooting ability. One of the very best of his ilk.

    Mauro Camoranesi Right sided attacking midfielder / central midfielder

    Veratile winger cum midfielder, extremely effective on the right flank with brilliant dribbling and crossing skills. 55 caps for Italy and a long spell amassing nearly 300 apps and a raft of trophies for Juve .

    Alessandro Del Piero Left sided attacking midfielder / forward

    One of the very best of his generation, Del Piero is an immensely talented attacker, equally reliable to provide goals, assists and general attacking trickery. All time top scorer at Juve, and still ammassing appearances, goals and trophies. Can play as trequartista, up front and drifting from the left.

    Raul Central attacking midfielder / striker

    It's not an exaggeration to say that Raul was considered as one of the 2-3 best players in the world in the early 2000s. Real Madrid icon, a striker, but so much more than that, being equally as effective as a more withdrawn player. Goals, brilliance and success surround him - a massively influential player to those around him. He is the all-time leading scorer in the Champions league. 558 apps for Madrid and 228 goals, 102 caps for Spain and 44 goals

    Ruud Van Nistelrooy Striker

    One of the deadliest front men ever, Ruud will score goals, anytime, anywhere, with any team. Raul and Van Nistelrooy with Del Piero playing off them is pretty much as perfect a front line as you can get. 345 goals in 577 appearances at club level. That is more than 1 in 2. His international record is similar (35 in 70). Legend

    Marco Delvecchio Left sided or central midfielder / Striker

    If the attacking threat of the previous 3 players is not enough, there is more firepower on the bench. An extremely versatile player, has played left wing back, central and left midfield and most prominently up front. Has 277 appearances for Roma, a real stalwart during the 90s and early part of this century. Also has 22 caps for Italy
  9. Jan 31, 2012

    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Teams playing today are:

    Group A
    Cold Boy
    Cal?
    kps88
    Crustanoid

    Matchday 1
    Coldboy v Cal
    kps88 v Crustanoid

    Teams are ready from match 2 but I presume we just have to wait for Cold Boy to kick off. I presume we want both of the games to start at the same time?
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    I've already sent it to Brwned.
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    Just updating on my previous post with brief individual player sucking up.

    For the first game, gonna go with Totti in the false 9 position as Rood doesn't seem to use wingers, so it's going to be a midfield game so I want Sousa and Senna holding with Deco roaming about the middle dictating it all, Totti dropping back will allow both Kewell and Etxeberria to cut inside and both are more than capable of scoring doing as well as being consistent creators for Totti.

    Think Thuram and Marquez are more than capable of dealing with his forwards with Kaladze also capable of moving into the centre to help with Rivaldos prowess, where the most danger comes from for me, thus why I've crowded that area with both Sousa and Senna, who aren't shy to getting a foot in.

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    Elber as sub.

    Buffon - Probably the goalie of his generation despite the lack of a CL medal, although still winner of a best goalie in the CL, along with his World Cup Yashin Award and numerous Serie A and IFFHS goalie awards.

    Salgado - A very important cog in two of Reals three CL wins of recent times. Tireless right back with a bit of aggression to the team. Spanish regular etc etc

    Thuram - Again, one of the best of the generation in defence, a rock even when out of position by his own admission at right back, capable of adapting quickly and shutting out anyone. World cup winner and a superb performance in 2006 without Desailly, Blanc, Lebeouf with him that time.

    Marquez - Not as great defensively as Thuram, but still a top class defender capable of coming forward and playing out of danger. One of Mexicans all time best, as proven by some brilliant performances in two world cups, once against his mate, Messi. CL winner of course.

    Kaladze - A strong defender, consistent and versatile. Two time CL winner with Milan and once runner up, and proved with Genoa that he still has plenty to offer as one of the better defenders in Seria A last year.

    Senna - The midfielders SAF wanted back in 2006, and has since gone to show the world exactly why Fergie wanted him, in the team of Euro 2008 and many pundits and fans claimed him as best player allowing Xavi the full freedom to be the best he's ever been imo, in my team that will be Deco, strong, can break up play, composed and take over playmaking duties if needed.

    Sousa - Similar to Senna in that he can pass his way out of trouble as well being a composed DM in the tackle, back to back starter in CL finals, of which he ended up on the winning side both times with different teams. Injuries dogged him, but still a great talent with many deserved accolades to his name.

    Deco - The man that made Joses Porto to click, who then went on to do the same for Rikjaards Barca winning CL's both times. Twice UEFA Midfielder of the year, and once Ballon d'Or runner up. Runner up in the Euros....although he faded quickly at Chelsea, for the first few months, showed his talent in the Premiership also.

    Kewell - Once Young Player of the year in the Premiership and immense talent before injuries and eventual inconsistency dogged him after leaving Leeds. Both a creators and consistent scorer from anywhere in midfield or off a striker....and well....also a CL winner. YEAH!

    Etxeberria - Only player in my team to win anything major, but don't let that fool you, an top talent and ultra loyal to Bilbao, even playing for free for a year pretty much. A consistent performance for both club and country, great attitude, and a solid scoring record too.

    Totti - Living legend in Rome and deservedly so, World Cup winner, Euros Runner Up, Serie A Winner, Once italian top scorer playing as a false 9 pretty much...for a forward, has it all, movement, creativity, intelligence and scoring ability.

    Elber - consistent 1 in 2 scorer, and fine striker, being instrumental in some of Bayerns late 90's to early 2000's success including goals home and away knocking out holders Madrid when they went on to win the CL in 2001. As with all in my team when it comes to the forwards, is capable of creating for others also, and not just being a selfish striker.
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    MARCOS

    Brazil's main goalkeeper during the 2002 World Cup winning squad.One of the best Brazilian keepers ever and voted 4th best in the world according to IFFHS

    LAUREN

    First choice in the Arsenal's Invincibles Team.Voted ANC player of tournament in 2000 and also made it into the PFA team of 2004.Was one of the best right backs in the PL era.Solid defensively as well as great going forward

    Mallorca

    * Supercopa de España: 1

    1998

    Arsenal

    * FA Premier League: 2

    2001–02, 2003–04

    * FA Cup: 3

    2002, 2003, 2005

    * Community Shield: 2

    2002, 2004

    Portsmouth

    * Premier League Asia Trophy: 1

    2007

    * FA Cup: 1

    2008

    Cameroon

    * Olympic Tournament: 1

    2000

    * African Nations Cup: 2

    2000, 2002

    Individual

    * African Nations Cup Player of the Tournament: 1

    2000

    * PFA Team of the Year: 1

    2004[14]

    STAM

    Jaap Stam needs no intro for us United fans.Beast of a defender.
    1997 Dutch player of the year.Twice best defender in the CL and 3 times part of the PFA team of year. Legend! No team will even bother messing with my team.:devil:

    MATERAZZI

    Now lets forget what a cnut he was and the Zidane incident. Materazzi was one of the best defenders in Italy over past 2 decades.Voted Serie A defender of the Year 2007 and won 5 Serie A titles and World Cup winner.

    Known for his aggressive style and no nonsense defending.Chipped in with a decent number of goals too throughout his career.

    ABIDAL

    One of the best left-back of recent times.Made it into the UEFA team of the year 2007 and voted Defender of the year recently and French regular ahead of Evra.

    Tall,Fast and Strong.Equally amazing attacking wise and defensively.

    Lyon

    * French League: 3

    2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07

    * French Supercup: 3

    2005, 2006, 2007

    Barcelona

    * Spanish League: 3

    2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11

    * Spanish Cup: 1

    2008–09

    * Spanish Super Cup: 3

    2009, 2010, 2011

    * UEFA Champions League: 2

    2008–09, 2010–11

    * UEFA Super Cup: 2

    2009, 2011

    * FIFA Club World Cup: 2

    2009, 2011

    HAMANN

    One of Liverpools most influential midfielders and best signing during the Houlier era.One of the most under-rated players in the PL.Known for his reliability and consistency. A quality defensive midfielder who can not only interrupt the opposition attack but also had a very good range of passing himself. Won the CL with Pool and Capped 60 times for Germany.

    I think those of you'all who have seen him play many times will admit he was real quality.

    BALLACK

    Arguably the best box-to-box midfielder of the last decade.An absolute machine and midfielder who could do everything possible.
    Known for his Passing ,Agility, Shooting, Quickness, Strength, Ability in air, Attitude.So basically everything. Had an eye for those killer through balls too and a very good goal scoring record. 42 in 90 for Germany and a similar record for the clubs in his pick.

    Was my favorite midfielder before he joined Chelsea.

    UEFA Midfielder of the Year 2002.
    3 times German player of the Year
    Named 2 times each in the World Cup and Euro's Team of the year respectively.

    LITMANEN


    The greatest player Finland has ever produced and arguably one of the best players ever during his peak at Ajax ( the 90's decade).

    9 times Finish player of the Year, Voted 3rd best in Europe in 1995, and the Dutch player of the year and top-scorer in 1993.

    One of the best players Ajax ever had, Litmanen had almost no weaknesses. Known for his touch, technique, skills, passing and scoring.In his prime at Ajax he was almost as good as the great players named of the last century.

    Watch the video below please :



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jari_Litmanen#Personal_awards_and_achievements

    DI NATALE

    An extremely versatile forward who could play anywhere in attack. Known for his pace, skills and ability to score and create goals.

    During his peak one the best attackers of the decade in Serie A scoring 183 in 280 odd matches for Udinese.

    Serie A top scorer in 2010 and 2011 and also Italian player of the year 2010.

    WILTORD

    Another member of the brilliant Arsenal side. French footballer of the year 1999 and top scorer in the French league once.

    SHEVCHENKO

    Needs no introduction imo. One of the best strikers ever. AC Milan legend.

    2004 Winner of the Ballon D'Or and placed 3rd thrice.

    Individual

    * Ukrainian Footballer of the Year: (6) 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005
    * Ukrainian Sports 1999.[35]
    * Commonwealth of Independent States Cup Top Scorer: 1997
    * Ukrainian Premier League Top Scorer: 1999
    * Ukrainian Premier League Best player: 1997
    * Ukrainian Cup Top Scorer (2): 1995, 1998
    * ESM Team of the Year: (3) 1999-00, 2003–04, 2004–2005
    * UEFA Champions League Top Scorer: (2) 1998–99, 2005–06
    * UEFA Champions League Best Forward: 1999
    * UEFA Team of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005
    * UEFA Super Cup 2003 Man of the match.
    * Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 2000
    * Serie A Goal of the Year 2004 (Roma-Milan 2004).[36]
    * Serie A Top Scorer: (2) 1999–00, 2003–04
    * Supercoppa Italiana all time top Scorer
    * Best Player of Eastern Europe - Focus Vest magazine Trophy: 2001
    * Baltic and Commonwealth of Independent States Footballer of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005
    * Ballon d'Or: 2004
    * Ballon d'Or: Third Place 1999, 2000.
    * 2004 FIFA World Player of the Year Third
    * Golden Foot award : 2005
    * FIFPro World XI: 2005
    * Ukraine all-time Top Scorer with 46 goals.
    * Derby della Madonnina all-time top scorer with 14 goals.
    * All time Milan's Top goal scorer in Champions League with 33 goals.
    * All time FIFA World Cup qualification European Top Scorer.[37]
    * FIFA World Cup qualification 2002 Top Scorer European with 10 goals.
    * FIFA 100
    * The World Team of the Decade by Mirror Football: 2009[38]
    * A.C. Milan Hall Of Fame.[39]
    * UEFA awards 100 caps.[40]
    * Pallone d'Argento 2004.
    * L'Équipe Team of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005.[41][42]
    * Top scorer in the history of football ukrainian with 370 goals.
    * Dynamo Kiev Top goalscorer (2) .
    * A.C Milan Top goalscorer (6).

    [edit] Ballon d'Or

    * 1998 – nominated (top 50)
    * 1999 – 3rd
    * 2000 – 3rd
    * 2001 – 8th
    * 2003 – 4th
    * 2004 – 1st
    * 2005 – 5th
    * 2006 – nominated (top 50)

    [edit] FIFA World Player of the Year

    * 1999 – 7th
    * 2000 – 5th
    * 2001 – 9th
    * 2003 – 10th
    * 2004 – 3rd
    * 2005 – 6th
    * 2006 – 21st
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    Player profiles
    Before starting, one critical point: this is a team of exceptionally talented players but also hard-working and tenacious winners with a never-say-die attitude. There is leadership and commitment across the board and players who are capable, both technically and mentally, of taking a game by the scruff of the neck and turning it on its head. They hate losing and they won’t.

    Fabien Barthez
    [​IMG]One of the top keepers from his generation and the best France has had. Agile, athletic, fantastic jump and reflexes, but also committed and courageous in getting the ball come what may, charging through whoever was on the way.

    His peak was before United: CL winner 1993, Yashin Award, World Cup winner, Ligue 1 and European Goalkeeper of the Year in 1998, Euro winner, European Goalkeeper of the Year and IFFHS World’s Best Goalkeeper in 2000. With that backdrop and Schmeichel leaving we never gave him a break despite winning two Premiership titles with him in goal.

    There’s a reason he continued to be France’s goalkeeper and picked ahead of all the fancy French ones the caf ***ped about (Landreau, Frey, Coupet) for the 2006 runner-up spot. He was different class.

    Javier Zanetti
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    Versatile, strong and resilient. Zanetti should require no introduction. Adept at playing right or left fullback, wingback and as right or defensive midfielder; Zanetti offers options which his intelligence and experience will bring to bear over the course of the game. He is an Inter legend with 5 Serie As, a UEFA Cup and Champions League titles under his belt. Quite simply the best right back of his generation.

    Vincent Candela
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    A rampaging wing back with excellent technique and dribbling. Providing a similar outlet as Cafú on the right, he was a key player for Roma’s conquest of Serie A playing some great, eye-catching yet very effective football. He also participated in France’s most successful period, playing at both the WC98 and Euro2000 wins, although his playing time was limited by having to compete for a spot with none other than Bixente Lizarazu.

    Alessandro Nesta
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    Considered by many as the best centre half to ever play the game...

    Brilliant reader of the game with some of the best tactical knowledge ever seen from a centre half. Comfortable with the ball and dedicated to the cause.

    Nesta has won just about everything with AC Milan and Italy, including 2 Champions League's and a World Cup title. Individually, he has been crowned UEFA defender of the year and featured in its team of the year on 4 separate occasions. From 2000-2004 he was named Serie A defender of the year consecutively. A true great for both club and country.

    Paolo Montero
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    Quoting Tim Vickery, "for an entire decade the former Uruguay captain consistently gave a masterclass in the art of defending. He could control the situation without having the ball, forcing the attacker down blind alleys, putting doubt in their mind, winning the tackle and then starting his side's moves with his superb left-footed passing. In the manner of former Argentina captain Daniel Passarella, he was a wonderfully talented and intelligent footballer who was also prepared to be as hard as it takes".

    His leadership and organization skills will be crucial for my defence, as will his ability to cover at left back flawlessly.

    Luis Enrique

    A supremely talented player and one of my favourites from the late 90s. Played anywhere on the pitch except CB and GK and showed good form in all of them. His mentality and work rate, coupled with pace and superb technique, made him a beast of a box-to-box midfielder. “Keano with goals” I used to think.

    A member of the promising Spanish team that won gold at the 1992 Olympics, he started as a left back or right midfielder in his days at Real. His real form though came when Robson took him to Barca with a more attacking role in mind, helping Barcelona win the Cup Winners Cup and European Supercup. It was however under Van Gaal that his versatility made him an integral piece of the jigsaw. After scoring 25 goals from central midfield in the 97-98 season, he went on to play a variety of roles (CF, linkup, winger, whatever was needed), eventually becoming club captain, and always maintaining that rich goalscoring form (1/3 for Barca overall, 1 in 2 in Europe).

    He was a big game player, usually scoring in these type of games, as any tormented Real fan will concede.

    Edgar Davids
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    Pitbull: the best defensive midfielder of his generation. Powerful, quick, dynamic, a beast in that Juventus midfield alongside Zidane.

    Paul Scholes
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    Ginger Prince. Legend. Will control the pace of the game and run the show from a deeper position to Zidane's. Will also press, tackle and comically clatter into someone as usual.

    Yes, Scholes and Zidane together.

    Zinedine Zidane
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    The best midfield playmaker of the last 20 years and one of the best players ever. Need I say more?

    Diego Forlán
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    He doesn’t need much of an intro either. Two good feet, vision, passing, cracking volleys and screamers… it was there for all to see but never quite worked out in a United team setup to bring the best out of Ruud. Even for the national team, when he was finally played in the 2002 WC, as a second half sub and with the game 3-0 down, almost clinched one of the most stirring comebacks in World Cup history (from 3-0 and out to 4-3 and first in the group in 45 minutes would take some beating). The one thing he did show with us was the ability to score when it mattered, earning United precious points to reclaim the premiership in 2002-03 (Liverpool, Chelsea, Villa, Southampton…).

    Then he turned into one of the most prolific strikers in Europe, earning two Pichichis, the European Golden Boot and the Europa League for Atlético (thrashing the scousers in the process). But the cherry is saved for WC2010 where his performances were the one shining light in an otherwise dull tournament, earning him the Golden Ball and finishing joint top scorer. Fittingly, he became Uruguay’s most capped player and all-time top scorer as he once again proved to be the brains behind Uruguay’s Copa America winning side.

    Christian Vieri
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    Bobo was a beast. A classic centre-forward with bags of pace and built like a tank. He was unplayable at his peak dominating aerially and in one on one situations. He is the all time top scorer of headed goals in Serie A history, but also a handful as a goal-poaching fox in the box.

    He was top scorer in La Liga and Serie A, managing a goal a game for Atlético and 103 in 143 for Inter. Also awarded best player in Serie A and best Italian player twice, he got the WC Silver and Bronze boot on the back of a 9 in 9 World Cup record for a typically miserly Italy (unfortunately missed out on 2006 through injury).

    Bobo was a nightmare for the best defences in the world and this will be no different here.

    Subs:

    Wes Brown
    Underrated outside of Old Trafford, but well loved and appreciated within it. Two-times winner of the Jimmy Murphy award, Wes had a cracking breakthrough Treble-winning season. The injuries started very early, but didn’t stop him having a few years of excellent form early in the decade, warranting him a deserved place in the 2000-01 PFA Team of the Year.

    Unfortunately, long-term injuries relegated him to squad (can’t-be-counted-on-being-available) status until Gary Neville’s mysteriously never-ending two week layoff gave him a regular place in the side that went on to conquer Europe again.

    SAF once called Wes the best natural defender in England, and for just over a decade and 362 games he was a reliable and solid pick for one of the consistently best club sides in the world. He can make the last ditch tackle, he has the strength to muscle the opposition off the ball, and he can read the game well. His ability to play CB and RB is also a huge bonus.

    Five league titles, two Champions Leagues, two FA Cups, three League Cups and four Community Shields… way more than sugardaddy teams have managed.

    Carsten Ramelow
    Revered by Bundesliga followers, Ramelow was a tall, rugged centre-half who played just in front of the defensive line. A midfield destroyer, he was comfortable dropping deep and taking up a position as a third centre-back leaving the fullbacks free to roam.

    He was a key player for that exciting and tactically astute Leverkusen side which surprised us all earlier in the decade. It took a piece of Zidane magic to beat them at the CL final, but Zidane is now on the same side.

    Called upon to perform the same duties for Germany, his was the typical German quietly effective performance that secures results and helped that team emerge as World Cup runners up despite not looking particularly remarkable on paper.

    Matias Almeyda
    A strong and tireless defensive midfielder with good short and long passing. Almeyda offers more offensively than Ramelow while providing as much bite in midfield. Eriksson had him doing all the work by himself in a Lazio midfield of Nedved, Veron and Stankovic which went on a run to win the Italian Cup, Supercup, Cup Winners Cup, the European Super Cup, and finally the league double (with Simeone already there at this stage).

    His determination and commitment to the cause turned him into a fan favourite everywhere he played, and had the Lazio fans displaying a banner with an XI featuring him in all XI positions.

    Cholo Simeone
    An intimidating midfield enforcer, Simeone was also a very gifted footballer who chipped in with a good goal return (1 in 5 if you take a 6-7 year peak) and usually scoring them when it mattered. Some Argentinians would describe the sight of him advancing at full pelt with ball at feet as majestic. I would describe it as an ominous runaway train, so hard it was to knock him off the ball.

    He won the Spanish double at Atlético, Italian double at Lazio and the UEFA Cup at Inter. He also won the 1991 and 1993 Copa América with Argentina and Silver at the Olympics, holding the record number of appearance until Zanetti finally surpassed him.

    El Cholo was a beast, put any midfielder in front of him and he will have him for dinner… along with their babies for good measure.

    Clarence Seedorf
    Absolute top class player and one of the best all-round midfielders of this generation. Not the best at any one thing, but up there across the board and can play anywhere in midfield. Has the passing range, technique and vision of the best playmakers coupled with incredible stamina, workrate and determination to press and never give up on regaining possession.

    The man has won four CLs at three different clubs, which in itself proves his quality and class. As with all my players, he is a winner, a big game player who will fight every inch for a victory.
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    I very nearly chose Anderson, opted for Edmundo instead
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    I'll add:

    Coupet
    Howard
    De Sanctis

    Dabizas
    Dellas
    Cris
    Silvestre
    Harte
    Finnan

    Costinha
    Maniche
    Zagorakis
    Karagounis
    Basturk

    - Nothing particularly special, but I'd maybe have had one or two over others picked.
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    Ze Roberto? He was versatile and played a World Cup tournament at central midfield.

    My alternative is to partner Morientes with Henry, but I feel this wouldn't give Riquelme the licence to roam as much (Edmilson holding).
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    Jayvin Full Member

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    Gio picked Coupet. I think Patrik Andersson was better than a few of the CB's picked.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    So how's the voting restrictions? Same thing as last time or can everybody vote everyone?
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    It also should be noted in bold at the top of each match what the criteria for judging players is. It matters a lot.
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    Rood nostradamus like gloater

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    Definitely

    Brwnd has mentioned it but I think it needs to be clearer that this is based on players in their PRIME.
  23. Jan 31, 2012

    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    What do you lot suggest to make it clear then? Just a note at the beginning of each OP? Something like:

    Important note: For the purpose of this competition, these players are considered at the level when they were in their prime.

    Oh and Snow, anyone can vote on any game.
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    kps88 Full Member

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    You shouldn't be able to vote if it directly effects you. What Polaroid always does basically. Some of these match ups are decided by the odd vote, I don't think its fair putting so much power in your potential opposition.
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    I don't agree I think restrictions are silly, if people are going to deliberately 'sabotage' someone else's match that's their prerogative. I don't believe anyone would do, and I can't really understand why it would really bother anyone in a game like this. That's just me though. It's upto everyone else to decide that but as it stands I'm voting in every game.
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    Cold_Boy Banned

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    I agree.

    Although I have decided to not vote.
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    kps88 Full Member

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    Meh. Just think it could open up a can of worms. Integrity of the competition etc.

    I'm not too fussed either way though.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    This is my thingie that goes in the match threads

    I'm going for a very solid 4-2-3-1 formation that should be able to deal with any variation of 4-4-2.

    If you have average full backs then you'll not want to play me. Threat from outside the box is as much as inside it. Lampard and Frings are both quite capable of shooting with great power. Even Petit has that ability.

    My defense is composed of great veterans in both Champions and domestic league with their respected clubs as well as on the international stage.

    Dida: Solid goalkeeper in his prime (which is all that matters) and voted the best goalkeeper in Europe when AC Milan won them CL in 2005. Highly successful in Brazil before he came to Europe and added to his trophy cabinet.

    Phil Neville: Reliable player and was our very own John O'Shea before John O'Shea became John O'Shea. I use him at right back where I feel he's at his best. Did well at United and has become the captain of Everton.

    Samuel Kuffour: Played many years in the heart of the Bayern Munchen defense along with Thomas Linke. They made up the best defensive pair in the Bundesliga and won the CL shortly after the famous final in '99. 2 times African player of the year (runner up) and the Ashford & Simpson song solid could well be a description for his defensive capabilities

    Jens Nowotny: Leverkusen were a European powerhouse for two years with the likes of Nowotny and Ramelow in defense, Ballack and Ze Roberto in midfield. They're the reason for the teams almost success in every stage. Masters of runner-upery but that was not the defenses fault. Only player in my team who's not won a major trophy

    Gabriel Heinze: He was purchased to United for being good at football. He certainly showed that and was voted our best player in the 04/05 season. A fan favorite before he became 2nd fiddle after a long term injury. But he moved on an went on to Real Madrid and then Marseille, picking up some trophies along the way. A veteran of every stage of football like his other defensive members.

    Emmanuel Petit: He paired up with Vieira and won the WC and PL but before that he captained Monaco to a league title. His midfield prowess were rivaled only by his partner and our own midfield at the time and made for heated battles.

    Torsten Frings: With Frings I've got a player with great vision and passing, hard tackling and a great shooter. He's like a mix between Pirlo and a regular German defensive midfielder. Sporting the hair, shooting and passing of Pirlo with the tackling, work rate and nationality of a German. Great fit next to Petit.

    Luis Figo: I can't describe him properly without filling the page. Best player in the world in 2001 and one of the best almost his whole career. Not many have more trophies than him and he's achieved it with 3 different clubs. Simply a great great great player.

    Frank Lampard: We love to hate him because he's just so damn good at scoring goals. Can't think of many midfielders that rival him in that aspect. An intelligent player who's a model of consistency. He plays in his favorite spot where I'll get the most out of him.

    Ryan Giggs: It's Ryan fecking Giggs. Great now at age 38 but remember him in his prime? I certainly do:drool:

    Patrick Kluivert: At birth him and Ruud decided to share their careers fairly. Patrick burst on to the scene with Ajax, who with their golden generation won it all. In his prime he played alone up front at Barcelona with Rivaldo behind him and that is the role he plays for me. In that role he managed to become the 4th ever top goal scorer for the Catalans (now 6th after Messi and Eto'o) and is still the top goal scorer for the Netherlands. He won the golden boot at Euro 2000 where the Dutch lost in penalties to Italy.



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    Substitute: Nicholas Anelka
    A footballer who's been in an endless search to find himself. On his way he's won a number of league titles in different countries and a CL medal as well. Golden boot winner whilst at Chelsea he's a sub that can come on for any one of players really. Gives me the option of changing into a 4-4-2 with Frings, Petit or Ballack out. I could even play a three man defense and take out Neville if drastic measures are needed. Great bench option.

    Footnote:
    My team has 50 league medals, 9 CL medals, 1 EC winner and 2 WC winners, 1 Copa America and Libertadores winner and 96 different cup medals which include the Cup Winners Cup, FA Cup, various Super Cups etc.

    Player honors they've got plenty of as well.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    I don't think it would be a problem. I always go the honest way. If you vote your own team it doesn't matter because the other manager will do the same thing so it's even on that front. You just have to make sure not to forget.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    I agree it would be silly for people to do that, but disagree in that I would be bothered if the voting started getting skewed for that reason.

    Hopefully not the case.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    :lol:

    Missed milking opportunity there. It was actually Nowotny being injured in the second leg against us that badly affected them in the run-in. Their squad depth wasn't good enough to deal with it.

    :lol:, why else?





    Bebe? :nervous:
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    Eh? Does that mean I can vote on my own game? The one which I am one point behind on?
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    Yes. But your competitor can do it as well (and maybe has, I don't know).
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Well, yeah. If everyone just takes it as a given that they'll vote for their own teams then the only difference it'll make is that everyone can see the voting scores without having to click on the 'view votes' button...as for voting for other people's teams, I really don't see the issue. You'd have to be pretty pathetic to do that to win a bloody fantasy draft game.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    I think players involved directly should refrain from voting. If anything because the moment you vote you stop seeing who votes for either team, which is valuable going forward (who doesn't like your team, check their comments, see if they have a point, etc.).

    The moment you vote you lose that feedback but if you don't it may well boil down to either doing it...

    I think the fair thing here is that you let kps know, at least.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    If I win by one vote where I've voted on my team and the other manager hasn't voted I'll take it as a draw.
  37. Jan 31, 2012

    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Reminder for tomorrow lads, need your teams and whatnot.

    Matchday 2
    DanNistelrooy v Team Brian
    TheReligion v antohan

    So far all I have is antohan's I think.
  38. Jan 31, 2012

    Crustanoid Full Member

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    :lol: I wasn't planning on doing it - just pointing out how crucial it could be. FWIW I think you should only vote on games outside of your group as you could change the group standings by voting on the game you're not involved in
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    DanNistelrooy Full Member

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    Brwned - will have mine posted by 9 tomorrow
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    Rood nostradamus like gloater

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    I dont think there should be any restrictions on voting and even you should be able to vote for your own team - the reason is because it is easier to see the score rather than have to press the button every time

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