Adrien Rabiot / completing formalities at Juventus

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  1. May 13, 2019

    Oly Francis New Member

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    I don't see Rabiot having the kind of strategic intelligence required to press like Pep asks his player to. To be honest, i wouldn't advise any major team to sign him, escpecially United because you need hard workers and players that will do anything for the jersey. It's just not Rabiot.
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    MadMike Full Member

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    Did you pluck that figure out of the air? The most I heard him asking for is €10m, per year. That translates to £166k pw.
    https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/report-rabiot-s-monster-request-does-not-scare-juventus-82556

    At the moment nobody has offered him that, or he would have signed already. So putting in an offer at £150k pw and see if he accepts it, is not out of the question. That's how much we allegedly pay Fred anyway.

    Bear in mind he doesn't have many other realistic options.
    - France: He's leaving the only team that could pay him what he wants.
    - Spain: The big 3 are not interested for various reasons. No one would else can pay him what he wants.
    - Italy: Juve might be able to go for him but they just gave Ramsay a big salary and they'd have to offload a midfielder to make space.

    I reckon he'll be EPL-bound.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    David McDonnell reporting he's one of our targets.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    If he truly hasn't signed for anyone yet than that should be enough to tell us to not go near him
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    GledTheRed Full Member

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    Sign him so we can moan about him.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    This lad isn't a disruptive influence in the dressing room and has got on well with his team mates. The only issues he's had is with the club, who he feels hasn't treated him right in comparison to the big name stars. And having read some of the stuff the club punished him for, I have to agree with the player.

    This signing is an absolute no brainer on a free transfer. We're currently in the shit with reinforcements required in a number of positions. Signing Rabiot on a free would be a good start.
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    That’s the spirit lad :lol:
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    Thats basically what will happen, fecking guaranteed.
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    MadMike Full Member

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    That's guaranteed to happen whoever we sign.
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    Ramshock CAF Pilib De Brún Translator

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    Not happening then
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    Adnan Full Member

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    L'equipe also reporting our interest..
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    This is a player that has no loyalty to his own nation, everything so far suggests is sole motivation is money and we are already suffering from players with the wrong mentality, there are loads of CM's we can get, I'd rather we dodged this bullet.
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    In a summer where we need a massive rebuild, especially in midfield, i dont think we can pass up on Rabiot on a free. He would cost 50 or 60m if he had a long contract. Thats if we know what he is like and how to use him...
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    Isotope Full Member

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    Free player would demand higher wage.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    If McDonnell is to be believed, he's asking for £175k a week.
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    RedDevilCanuck Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin

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    Juve and AC Milan (when they were relevant) loved a bargain.

    Bayern too when they were at their peak.

    This dude and Bale on a free is good business regardless of wages and age etc.
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    Champagne Football Full Member

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    Can see him casually jogging back away to Sheffield Utd and leaving all the dirty work to everyone else, when we're 2-0 down.

    I think he might have Pogba fever in that sense. Both look like world beaters on YouTube when attacking, but both feel themselves above the dirty work. There must be a reason why Deschamps and Tuchel don't trust him. Nzonzi, Tolisso and Matuidi were all picked ahead of him for France.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    The big difference is that Pogba at his best is still Pogba. Rabiot has/had the potential to be a World Class DM but, he and his mom are convinced that he is this too good for that role when his passing and attacking are nothing special.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Tuchel wanted Rabiot in his team according to @JPRouve if I'm not mistaken.
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    I don't want him, Dybala or Icardi. Great players? Yes but I think we need better characters here. I'm not advocating more passive nice guys like some of our squad. We need personality but good ones. There's way too much dirt around Icardi and Rabiot; where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Dybala less so but he's shown absolutely no desire to come here, he doesn't work particularly hard on the pitch and we've got too many luxury players. We aren't strong enough to enhance such players. There isn't a strong enough culture in the dressing room to keep the questionable characters in line. I feel like a dumbass British Bulldog type for saying this but we need good, hard working pros. I know he's not everyone's favourite at the moment having defected but we need more Ander Herrera types - solid pros, decent people but with that little bit of bite and aggression that's needed to turn our club around culturally.
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    UNITED ACADEMY Full Member

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    After reading @Oly Francis post, better avoid this guy. This guy sounds like someone who will bring lot of problems to the team. Unprofessional player.
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    Hes good when i have watched him and would like him purely based on ability , but ive never really knew much in detail about his attitude, anyway did a search and came across this post on reddit from a PSG fan...

    The Reasons Why Rabiot is so Hated
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    In 2008, Rabiot was signed to the Manchester City academy on a six year deal that should have seen him turn professional when he turned 17. But six months after signing, the deal is killed because Rabiot’s mom became angry at the club’s “treatment of her boy”.

    The kid then joins PSG and even with Rabiot’s talents it’s difficult to envisage him earning first team experience (cause he really wasn’t that good). However, the club and Laurent Blanc worked with the mom and showed their willingness to work with the kid and allowing him to gradually develop, introducing him to the first team in the manner that Sir Alex Ferguson did with David Beckham and Wayne Rooney.

    In 2013 Rabiot and his mom grew impatient and he is sent on loan to Toulouse to earn more playing time. His temporary departure earned him and his mom criticism in the media for their impatience with the club.

    After Rabiot returns to PSG from loan, Laurent Blanc Blanc begins to start him in 1 of 2.5 games at the beginning of the season. In the middle of the second half of the season, Rabiot’s mom threatens that his son will attempt to leave the club if he is not given more playing time with Matuidi, Verrati, Thiago motta and Pastore in the squad. As a result Laurent Blanc starts him in more games.

    In 2015, towards the end of the season before Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s contract is about to run out, Rabiot and Zlatan get into a fight at the training center in Paris.

    While Thiago Motta was getting old and eventually was unable to play at a high level, he was replaced by Rabiot as a defensive midfielder in important games. He played very well at this position and fans grew excited as they thought they had found the perfect replacement for Thiago motta. Instead of serving his club by playing in whatever position that would help the team win games, he and his mom complained to the coach and president that this was not the role he wanted to have at the club as he wanted a more sexy type of style in games and attack instead of defending. Even though he was much better at defending than attacking, him and his mother would whine about it. Even in the champions league games Rabiot would go against playing as a starting defensive midfielder. Despite these demands, the coach would still sometimes put him at the 6 position with the goal of winning and putting the team before the individuals. Which probably led to even more disgusting behavior from the Rabiot family as they didn’t completely get what they wanted as they’re used to.

    Rabiot has been often seen as a cry baby that complains to his mom whenever he doesn’t get what he wants. Due to him coming from a rich family, it makes sense as to why he cries whenever he doesn’t get what he wants.

    The President of PSG, Nasser Al Khelaifi, appears to be a big fan of Rabiot, regardless of the shit he and his mother give him, he has always said he sees Rabiot as a son and has even gone to treat him as the favorite of the team. Perhaps this was just to keep the Rabiot family happy and to make the mom shut up but it definitely didn’t stop them from complaining.

    In 2018, Didier Deschamps picks his World Cup squad for the French National team and picks Rabiot to be in the reserves meaning he would be picked into the first team if a midfielder had gotten injured. Rabiot who had only played 5-6 games with France with a performance lower than what it usually is at his club, feels insulted that he is put on the reserves and requests that he is removed from it right away. Instead of Rabiot, Didier had picked Pogba, Matuidi, Kanté, Tolisso, and Nzonzi. Who had proven at the time to be much better players in their clubs and on the national team. Even though France is one of the countries with an abundance of very talented players, Rabiot could not see the honor in being considered by being placed in the reserves. Didier Deschamps who strongly believes in the honor and dignity of representing “Le maillot bleu” states that Adrien made “a big mistake” by making this decision as he missed out on possibly wining the World Cup and might never be considered for the French national team again.

    After Rabiot decided to remove himself from the national team, the media and fans lashed at him for being the complacent little baby that he is and for not respecting the honor of representing les bleus. Of course as powerful as his mother seems to be, she could not control what the media and fans had to say. So instead, he wrote a statement disagreeing towards the label of him being “immature”. The kid cried at people for calling him names.

    I must say that when I became a PSG fan, the first time I heard of Rabiot I was not impressed. I found nothing special about his skills and didn’t like the personality he had as he seemed to have a very selfish character. I figured that since he was young he would develop into being a pretty talented and mature player, but even now I don’t see the improvement.

    It’s frustrating how this guy has been playing PSG all along. I myself knew that he wasn’t going to renew a contract as it became increasingly obvious that these contract negotiations weren’t moving forward. We now know that all of that was part of Rabiot and his entourage’s (mom’s) plan. Keep stalling so you don’t get put on the bench until you can leave while screwing the club over by leaving the midfield open.

    We sold Matuidi just so that we could give Rabiot the chance to grow and become the “Steven Gerard of PSG” like he had stated before. He stalls contract talks and makes it seem like he does want to stay, the club meets his demands even though he seems to think he deserves to have the salary of Messi. And now PSG is going to lose one of its starting midfielders when they are already in the absence of a 6. And with FFP sticking to PSG like moths on a lamp post at night, it looks like it’s going to be extremely difficult to replace both positions. For all we know he could not even be a true PSG fan and just forced his way out of the academy into his starting role with the bitching of his mom. It’s just funny that PSG defended this child after the big mistake he had made with the French National team.

    In conclusion, although it may screw PSG over, I’m glad that a scumbag like him is leaving PSG. I hope that PSG wins a bunch of champions league trophies without him as well as France with the Euros and the World Cup. I hope he ends up having a shit career and karma kicks him and his mother in the ass so hard that he ends up playing in the third division of the Bulgarian League where the Bourgeois would never step foot.

    Him and Ben Arfa are definitely on my shit list. I don’t ever want to hear about these two or see them on a screen in my life again.

    Let Barcelona have him. If they think they’re getting back at us for Neymar, they are in for a treat.
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    Isotope Full Member

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    Nice read @starman. I don't think the current United can put up with a player possibly brings so much drama. Just like Icardi or Bale.

    We're building a team, and I want all our focus is on the team. No more media shite from players, or players sulking.
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    AgentP Full Member

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    No wonder the big clubs haven't swooped in for him.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    Tuchel has no issue with Rabiot and Deschamps didn't really had an issue with him either other than France has better players that are a better fit for the team. The issue with Deschamps started with the open letter.
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    Catt Ole's at the wheel!

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    They're really not, and especially not Bale
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    :lol:

    When was this? When the Arabs came in?

    This looks like either written by a 12 year old or that scumbag of a CEO at PSG himself.
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    scoi New Member

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    If he's a free agent with not many big teams interested it could be worth a try for a season.

    He wants to be a key player in whatever team he joins, with the state of CM at the moment he could get that in a few games.

    If the terms are reasonably then its a free replacement for Herrera and would allow focus to shift on another important position.
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    Crashoutcassius Full Member

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    Alexis too
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    Crashoutcassius Full Member

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    Agree that it we have to sign a load of players then getting him in free and overpaying wages is okay. But we don't have to, we can build over 2 summers and are better off being patient and getting players we want and not getting stuck with huge wages in my view. We have an issue with work rate so if we lose Herrera cos we won't pay him and bring in rabiot on close to those wages ..he is going I guess
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    Who was that bloke you signed for free from Arsenal regardless of wages and age again?
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    The conversation is a bit strange, the rumours don't really link him to a massive wage and he is young. The question for United is whether we have the managing structure to welcome him and if it's a good idea to sign a moody player when you are in turmoil? Because Rabiot isn't going to be cryptic, if you criticize him for the team performances while he thinks that his teammates don't pull their own weight, there is a fair chance that he is going to call them out.

    I would prefer to see him go somewhere else even though I'm pretty sure that he is going to be good for his new team.
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    UNITED ACADEMY Full Member

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    Even Ramsey already got a big club. The fact that he still hasn’t decide his destination means the agent is asking unreasonable money which makes other clubs to have a second think about signing him for free is worth the money or no. Better avoid him, all the stories about him show that he will give the club lot of problem. And the fact that he even said that it’s too cold to play and that’s why he didn’t give 100% even show that this guy has attitude problem and clearly what we want is hard working.

    No brainer. Just avoid the signing imo.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Staff

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    If Pogba stays, do you think a Rabiot-Fred-Pogba midfield can work?
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    No, Fred isn't good. I would take McTominay over him and ideally we would bring a player with better game management.
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    What, based on that bitter, childish post?

    He wanted/ wants to play, nothing wrong with that. Players constantly give managers headaches moaning about playing time, position, etc. They just go and knock on the manager’s door though. It’s unfortunate he has a very vocal mother for an agent, but her whinging about game time to the media shouldn’t have any effect on the coach or players.

    What he did with his national team was very petulant though. And I would hope that, if it’s true that holding midfield brought out his best performances and looks like his best position, he matures enough to see it and accept it before too much of his career passes.
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    We need a Johnny foreigner to blame for our defense inability to defend, the fact that lingard is useless and rashford need 7 chances to score a goal
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    Swapping him for Ander would be such a recent United thing to do.
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    Is he the same guy who has a farm?
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    Bale is not out of contract this window.
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