Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by B20, Aug 21, 2018.
What happens when you pay for the best.
Sure, he cost a lot .. but now they have a top class, reliable keeper for the foreseeable future. They could have gone for someone half the price, but would have been running the risk of picking up another Mignolet or Karius. Alisson was their best shot at getting in proven quality.
Wouldnt trade him for anyone. That late save from the header and bringing the ball back into play basketball style, having the presence of mind under pressure to start the counter attack for the third goal....Insane!
Yeah, he’s really starting to settle now. He is still young, too. Hopefully he can keep improving and dominate everything. He’s a very special player.
How's he doing so far? Honestly haven't watched Chelsea this season or even heard of him until he signed for them.
I don't watch a lot of Liverpool games but the ones I've watched he's been top class, really good buy for them. He was costly but like VVD he was exactly what they needed.
I did not watch the game but Espn Brasil was blaming him in the twitter for the Burnley goal.
I'd be looking at his defence more on that, scrappy goal, not the keepers fault, he did make a vital save at 2-1 for them though. Strange that ESPN would mention the game without referencing that that last save though
Seems a bit harsh. He made a decent save then had two hands on the ball when someone took it away from him. The rest of our defense stood around watching whilst he was battling three Burnley players.
I'll echo the sentiments of others in the thread that it was mostly the defence, it wasn't great keeping either though even if he was hung out to dry a bit.
Wasn't the guy who attempted to play the ball offside? Anyway the defence like everyone said were just stood there watching
Yeah, i think the referee should not give that goal.
Alison replied that Espn is talking nonsense.
What you pay big money for.. no nonsense. World class.
He's ridiculous, depressing.
You've bought Milik for big money?
This guy is amazing. Looking a bargain.
12 clean sheets this season in 22 games. 13 goals conceded.
Milik shot it straight at him. He hardly knew that he made the save.
To make the striker hit it straight at you with the whole goal to aim at?
He's made himself big, not much more to it than that. I'd be incredibly disappointed if any professional keeper didn't do the same in the same situation.
He's been really good but think everyone is going a bit overboard because Liverpool have had their first decent keeper since Reina. Glik smashed it straight at the keeper. He's lucky Koulibaly was offside when he flapped that cross straight to a Napoli player.
Fair feck to them. Overpaid for him and VVD while everyone were laughing at them and here are the results.
Don’t care. Karius or mignolet would have shat their pants in that moment, Alisson has saved our butts on a few occasions in critical situations in recent games.
My God. Milik struck the ball off him; Alisson didn’t know anything about it, ffs!
It was more Milik's shot being shite than Alisson making a great save, but to be fair Karius would have probably moved out of the way.
What's the money a team gets for qualifying to round of 16?
Whatever it is, you can subtract that from his transfer fee now.
It's all about positioning.
He made a good save, if he stays on the line, this can go in. But him coming out and jumping at Milik, who didnt stay cool. That is also part of the game. Nobody cares how he saved it, just that he did.
A good goalkepper always get "shot at"
Actually you can see in replay that he is going towards the ball. This little less space made the difference in advancing (and of course Mane not scoring).
I haven't seen much of Alison tbh but what I saw today was definitly good -> calm + good football skills/passing and a top class save.
It's a basic fundamental that goalkeepers come out at this range. Nobody stays on their line.
That's just what I was impressed by. Something De Gea has done brilliantly for years. It's like a lot of football fans on forums have never really played the game to comprehend these nuances.
He makes lots of saves look less impressive because he is always in the right place. His speed and anticipation is top notch.
feck me it's drilled into fecking 9 year olds to close the space between you and the attacker while making yourself big. If he'd let that in we'd all be laughing our arses off at the howler he'd made and wondering how the hell he managed it.
Oh ffs. You can't use the 'football forum fans don't know what they're talking about line' to pretend like it was an exceptional bit of goalkeeping ffs.
What you just saw was absolute goalkeeping 101; if you ever played in goal coming out to narrow down the angle and to make yourself big is probably the second thing you learnt after 'you can use your hands'. Yeah, fair play, it was a big moment and doing the basics right under pressure is an important attribute, but that's all it was. He should have been given no chance by Milik.
Crap save, it's always crap unless he's way out of position and has to dive like superman across goal to make it.
I agree. There's been plenty of keepers around that would've improved Liverpool, even some outside of the top six. Schmeichel would've been a good short term fix even imo. The fact it took Klopp 3 years to address a glaringly obvious problem is quite laughable.
Genuinely teach this to 9 year olds when they want to be a keeper. Get close, be big. That's all he did, and Milik hit it straight at him.
If he'd done that in the first 5 minutes no one would have cared.
Best goalkeeper in the world, he was as well last season with Roma but now he's at a bigger club to show it
I'm a small bugger and I've played in goal in 11 aside and 5 aside (no real level). I know the 101 basics but the rest is getting inside strikers' heads before they've even shot. Obviously Milik should have done better. Doesn't mean Alisson didn't play a part in putting him in two minds which ended up him going for the safe option of going for the target instead, i.e. straighter than it should have been.
Edit: Karius and Mig know more about keeping than any of us put together. Guaranteed they would have been picking the ball up out of the net.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it was a 'nuanced' bit of goalkeeping that proves he's world class, or whatever bollocks is being said. It simply means he's capable of doing the basics under pressure.
And perhaps that's true, but it was only ever Liverpool fans who tried to convince anybody that Karius and Mingolet were anything other than shite.
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