All Time Test Draft R2 - MJJ vs 2mufc0 | 2mufc0 wins 14-5

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Who will win a 3 match series between the two?

Poll closed Dec 18, 2017.
  1. Team MJJ

    28.6%
  2. Team 2mufc0

    71.4%
  1. Dec 17, 2017
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    prath92 Full Member

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    Welcome to the second game of the second round of the Test Cricket Draft game between @MJJ and @2mufc0 . These teams will be involved in 3 game series in

    1. A flat track
    2. A green track aiding swing
    3. A slow track aiding spin

    Teams

    Team MJJ

    1. Sunil Gavaskar
    2. Roy Fredericks
    3. Virat Kohli
    4. Mohammed Yousuf
    5. Mahela Jayawardene
    6. AB De Villiers
    7. Andrew Flintoff
    8. Mitchell Johnson
    9. Mitchell Starc
    10. Shane Warne
    11. Brett Lee*

    *Steven Finn comes on for Brett Lee in the slow track

    Team 2mufc0

    1. Justin Langer
    2. Marcus Trescothick
    3. Richie Richardson
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Damien Martyn
    6. Adam Gilchrist (w/k)
    7. Shane Watson
    8. Ravichandran Ashwin
    9. Malcolm Marshall
    10. Allan Donald
    11. Glenn McGrath
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    Team MJJ

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    *Finn comes in for lee on spinning wickets.

    Why I should win

    • A batting lineup of legends, all of whom bat very well against fast bowling and are able to build long innings.
    • A tail that will wag
    • A fierce bowling lineup on pitches that suit them
    • Not many players have had a better peak than Johnson and Flintoff
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    Team 2mufc0

    Team and roles:

    1. Justin Langer
    2. Marcus Trescothick
    3. Richie Richardson
    4. Javed Miandad
    5. Damien Martyn
    6. Adam Gilchrist (w/k)
    7. Shane Watson (all rounder)
    8. Ravichandran Ashwin (bowling allrounder)
    9. Malcolm Marshall (bowling allrounder)
    10. Allan Donald
    11. Glenn McGrath

    Batting

    • Complimentary opening partnership one aggressive and one more defensive a perfect combination
    • Strong top/middle order, all no. 3-5 GOAT category
    • I have bolstered my middle order by bringing in the best w/k batsman of all time in Adam Gilchrist, able to win matches by himself.
    • Resilient and powerful lower order with Gilchrist/Watson and the dogged Ashwin.
    • Test centurions up to no.8
    • Also Malcolm Marshall was no mug with the bat either and is able to contribute, so my team bats very deep.
    Bowling

    • The GOAT test fast bowler McGrath, made all the top batsmen his bunnies partnered with another GOAT Donald. Both complimentary with different styles and guarantee early wickets.
    • Out goes Morkel and in comes Malcolm Marshall rated by many experts as the best fast bowler of all time. He was a different type of bowler than the other pacers so will bring some variation to the attack.
    • All 3 of these bowlers are GOAT's and proven in all conditions, it's hard to see any batting lineup trying to contain them.
    • Supported by spin wicket taking machine Ravi Ashwin, has taken 300 wickets in no time breaking many records on the way. With an avg of 25 it really is incredible esp in the era he is playing in where every man and his dog averages 50.
    • Watson will provide some variation and respite for the other bowlers when needed.
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    Marshall, Donald and Mcgrath! Wow.
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    Okay so to start off with I think my batting is better than his which should counter his bowling being better. Ignoring his front three, flintoff is a better bowler than watson and warne destroys ashwin.

    I can see my team winning the first match, losing the second and winning the third to take the series 2-1.
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    Batting is closer than you think, the acronym FTB was created for guys like Mahela who average 60 at home and 40 away, he's a good player but not really up there in all time stakes. And i love Yousuf but he never really performed against Australia or SA who had the strongest bowling attacks at the time, he's nowhere near Javed. Gavasker is slightly better than Langer but it's not a massive difference, Tesco is equal to Fredericks. Gilchrist cancels out ABD i'll give you Kohli over Richardson but again it's not a massive gap.

    As for the bowling your pace men aren't even fit to tie the laces of Donald, Malcolm and McGrath. The gap between our bowling is much bigger than any supposed gap between batting.

    Agree Flintoff is better bowler than Watson, wouldn't say with the bat. You have the better spinner no doubt, but my batsmen are good players of spin.
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    • C'mon Gavasker was one of the best of all time while langer is langer.
    • Kohli has nearly as many hundreds(will have more by the time he retires) as Richardson has fifties.
    • Mahela is better than martyn despite being a FTB and the flat batting pitch is going to suit both him and yousuf perfectly.
    • ABD is a miles better test batsman than Gilchrist and flintoff is a better bat than watson.
    • Your front three bowlers are better than mine but warne is on a different planet to ashwin and flintoff is superior to watson while bowling.
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    You're under rating Langer and Gilchrist. I've said Gavasker is better but its not a massive difference.

    Gilchrist averages 47 with a strike rate of 81!! Those are ridiculous stats over 96 test matches and is comparable to AB's stats.

    You have to look at the era Richardson played in and the bowlers he faced compared to Kohli, it's much easier to bat in the current era. Again i'll give you Kohli over him but its not massive.

    Mahela would be a liability against my pace attack and Yousuf struggled against McGrath, it's a recipe for a collapse.
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    Gavasakar is miles better than Langer, there is no comparison to be had. He had 14 centuries against Windies with that attack, half of those in WI itself.
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    Gavaskar is on a different planet compared to Langer. One is an all time great on par with the Tendulkar and Kallis. One is an above average opener.
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    If you're doing an isolated comparison I agree with you, he's probably the best opener of all time. But we have to take into account the bowlers each opener is facing, Langer will have an easier time against his bowlers than Gavaskar will have against mine. That's what I meant about having a massive difference.
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    On the one hand, Gavaskar, Kohli and Warne. On the other, Malcolm, Donald and McGrath. Bloody hell.
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    I have on very good authority that 2mufc0 players have been doping, a vote for MJJ is a vote against doping.
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    Consider the fact that one pitch is a flat ground favouring thr batsman and one is a spin friendly wicket. Keeping the strengths of both sides in mind, I expect to nick the series 2-1
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    I really can see where you're coming from with this argument. On paper, just looking at the individual players I think @2mufc0 has got you beat, but when you consider the fact that you are playing them on the three different surfaces I think you really have a chance. However, Marshall, McGrath and Donald plus Adam Gilchrist, the man I consider to be the best wicket keeper/batsman of all time on the same team, I just can't bring my self to cast my vote in your direction. You've put together a fantastic team but at the end of the day, got to go with @2mufc0
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    Dammit, should have gone for gilchrist over abd but yeah, I can see where you are coming from.
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    Cheers.

    One thing I would add is what made Donald, McGrath and Marshall so great was their ability to adapt and be successful in all conditions. If you look at their records it remains impeccable wherever they play so different surfaces shouldn't effect me much.
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    That was what finally tipped me over the edge. You've got possibly the finest spin bowler of all time in Shane Warne with AB as the wicket keeper. Now Abraham, Benjamin is one of the most exciting batsman I have ever seen (especially in the one day game) but his keeping does leave something to be desired. To the get the most out of Warne you really need a top class wicket keeper and to be honest you really don't have one.

    Still, one of the best match ups I've seen on here.
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    How do both teams have only one specialist spinner even after two rounds on picking?
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    Jayawardene at 5 doesnt make sense but I still vote for that team cause their batting lineup is better.