Ander Herrera: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer the right man for Man United despite 'tough job ahead'

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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    What a stupid post, calling one of the few players who actually looked like he cared, a prick, hope you don't get through the newbie system.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Great post .Fans now acting like he is some example to be followed when in reality he had been as inconsistent as the rest. 2 managers had never chosen him as fix for the season.
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    Florida Man Cartoon expert and crap superhero

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    Sooooo many caf posters take shit so personally like little high school teenagers. I'd ban so many of you if I could.
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    Loublaze ATLien

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    This. He's never been a dead cert starter. He's been mistreated by the club though, 200k a week player. feck outta here :lol:. I doubt he'll complete the duration of his PSG contract but he'll say nice things to please the fans.
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    Less success so bitterness rises. People looking for something/someone to blame.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    @Loublaze still trying to convince the world Herrera is shit? :lol: It's unhealthy mate.
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    I'm David Moyes damnit New Member

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    I'm just going to address the salty and petulant posts about Ander with what I said in the thread about Herrera's departure...

    Pleased that Ander's getting mostly positive wishes; the salty ones calling him a money-grabber etc. are pathetic.

    If we'd offered him say £130-£150K a year earlier, I guarantee he'd have signed. I think it was the lackadaisical attitude towards renewing his contract and subsequent feeling of not being valued that's led to his departure.

    Secondly, even though £200K is certainly too steep for a player with his limitations (though he's still been a good signing), those accusing him of chasing the money should take into account that the fact he didn't quibble with £70K for years is impressive when you compare his salary to others in the squad - so many players with far less ability are on far more money:
    • Phil Jones is on £120K for God's sake, and he's a terrible footballer who's also always injured.
    • Martial, a perennial sulker who delivers once every 10 matches and doesn't give a solitary shit is on £250K.
    • Juan Mata, who I love as a human being but is pretty much on a par with Herrera in terms of his contribution is on £140K.
    • Matic has been largely shocking for us and is on £120K.
    • Ashley Young is on £110K. Ashley Young. Let that sink in for a moment.
    • Jesse "I don't score or assist" Lingard is on £100K.
    Being paid significantly less than these wasters must have pissed Ander off no end and contributed towards his excessive demands.

    Lastly, here's a question to those criticising Herrera - if you were a Spanish born player who didn't grow up as a United fan, would you really turn down this offer from PSG, even if you grew to love United?

    He's getting a £130K pay rise, guaranteed league titles for the next few years, and guaranteed CL knockout football. It's petulant to expect every United player to hold the same undying loyalty to the club that you do as a supporter. If you were offered a new job that trebled your salary, no one would criticise accepting this, even if you had an affinity with your current company.
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    Loublaze ATLien

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    He's nothing special and im not trying to convince anyone, those are posts from his first two seasons and there are more examples. He was never anything more than a rotational player. LVG and Mourinho both trusted Fellaini (who was nothing special either) more. Matic too for Mourino
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    ti vu Full Member

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    Even OGS requests, Woodward (Who is Woodgate) can decline OGS request for all we know. The decision ultimately is in Woodward hand. And for all we know, Ander might already sign pre agreement with PSG by that time. From a player perspective, it's understanding he has to look after himself or he risked an big injury and ended up with no club
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    I don't want to live after reading this. Jones was on 50k a week prior to extending. He actually got a 70k RISE? I knew about Young making 110k a week already but seriously most of us bust our arses off the entire week meanwhile these horrifically bad players get payed absurd sums.

    Absolutely disgusting.
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    Will Singh Full Member

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    Sometimes I can show no mercy but this place is pushing me to new heights, people are forgetting how important Herrera has been and he was 1 of the few who showed the United spirit and as someone already pointed out our captain without the armband!

    Sorry to see him go and sorry how you was treated....!
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    beergod Full Member

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    I certainly wouldn't have been as professional as he was when underpaid.
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Yes they did thats true. One of the reasons those managers didnt do well and got sacked.

    You can probably find a bunch of stupid comments about every player. People think differently and some are quick to throw out insults and suggest that the players are terrible.

    But yes for Ander 16/17 was the first season the manager had him in the starting lineup most of the time and it was his breakthrough season at United. The first 2 seasons he played a more attacking role and although he was our goalscoring midfielder, he didn't look a great attacking player.

    In the first season he did win the ball a lot but I dont think many people appreciated that because they were expecting a Spanish midfield pass master like a Xavi, Iniesta or Fabregas. Not a goal scoring ball winner. It did prompt Scholes to say that he was going to be a midfielder who scored a lot of goals for United though. He was wrong and Ander developed a lot more defensively and played deeper
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    Loublaze ATLien

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    What role did he play at Bilboa? Before he signed I read he was indeed more of an attacking midfielder and that's what many supporters thought they were getting. He never did establish himself as a dead cert starter here. Its probably the reason they took time putting an offer on the table because Mourinho was in charge.

    Those comments were not stupid, the player did struggle those first two seasons and was largely underwhelming as you acknowledge yourself. Scholes questioned his passing ability and so did Rio, although Rio thought it was a lack of confidence. Never a 200k a week player
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    Odd then, the frequency in which you post about him. I mean, you're now on to questioning his work rate earlier on at the club. It's bizarre. :confused:
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    He played in the hole behind the striker, but he pressed and won the ball from there. His creative play wasnt up there with the best players in that kind of #10 position. And he got booked a lot and was sent off that last season so I can remember suggesting back then that he would have trouble playing in a normal central midfield role because of the bookings. I was wrong about that obviously.

    Scholes questioned his passing this season I thought? Not in his first 2 seasons. Again after his first season where he scored 6 league goals Scholes was fully hyping him up.