Angel Gomes | 2017/18 Performances

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  1. Jan 27, 2018

    Raees Fairweather Fan

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    That wouldn’t have such an impact. Once you get over 511 max... you start to see drop off in agility. Garrincha, Best, Maradona... that very close control speed dribbling you can’t be too tall for it to work. R9, Cruyff, Savicevic and MVB were excellent taller dribblers, though first three under 6ft and Zidane another taller dribbler but exceptions to the rule. It’s much tougher to have gangly legs and coordinate them as well in tight spaces at speed.. not to mention dodge tackles and be elusive.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    This is the thing though. If you read back over the last few posts I literally just said "being TINY is not an advantage" As in being 5'6 is not an advantage. Apparently this suggestion is mind bogglingly stupid. I'm wondering if people just can't read?

    Who in their right mind would see being 5'6 or smaller as an advantage over someone who was 5'9?
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    engulfing Full Member

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    Someone once told me the best dribblers all have legs roughly the same length as their torso.
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    Solver New Member

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    well said
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    Player performance thread guys, feckoff n make a thread for physical attributes as it’s all been done to death and is TEDIOUS.
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    Terry Apogee Banned

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    This kid, Angel Gomes. It's not a gamble y'know.......he's pure gold.
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    Loublaze ATLien

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    Being tall is only a clear advantage for CBs and goalies. In other positions the only thing that matters is sheer talent and how you use it. The greatest players ever have mostly been diminutive. The league is not full of 5'6 players because the average height of men is above that obviously.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Lol how did this thread exactly turn to a discussion about best height for football ? :lol:

    There are different ways to play football, height is one of them not all of it so relax.
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Gomez will get some muscle on his frame as he ages and he'll probably become an even better dribbler. Lower body strength is very important for that, and a lot of good dribblers have tree trunk legs and a big arse.
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    ash_86 Full Member

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    Its amazing how every good footballer of ours plays on the left side while we're screaming for someone from the right.
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    Nuts Full Member

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    The great shorter players mentioned by others above didn’t make it despite being short - their height is an integral part of their way of playing. I can’t watch Messi, or Sánchez, without recognising that their low centre of gravity - dictated by their height - is central to their style, ability and approach to the game.
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    hn4manunited Full Member

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    This kid was electric coming on. This is one special player! Would love to see him more this season. If Jose played him, he’s got a chance to break into the first team in the future.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    More a case of Cristiano not having the talent to do that rather than his height hindering him, he's never been the most naturally gifted around. We've seen plenty of tall players who could dribble really well. Zidane, Ronaldo, Ginola, Waddle, Barnes, Le Tiss to name but a few. Lots of dimiunitive players can't dribble for toffee. Same with lots of tall players.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    Really narrow minded post, there's been a lot of really great football players that had a bit of height about them. Zidane, Socrates, Ronaldo(both), Bergkamp, Van Basten, Gulit, Rijkaard, Redondo, Rivaldo, Henry, Kempes etc In this era, the best players seem to be diminutive but in the early 00's it seemed to be the opposite, why? i have no idea.
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    POF Full Member

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    That Ronaldo. Can't dribble for shit! God almighty!!!

    Just confirming you are talking about Cristiano Ronaldo?

    On Gomes, those little cameos when the game is over as a contest are nice for him, although he could do with a bit more time. He's a very talented kid but his lack of size may mean his step up to the first team is later than some of his peers.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    No one said he can't dribble for shit, just couldn't/can't dribble to a certain level.
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    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

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    Most are right footed.
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    POF Full Member

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    Yes, but you did say "he has never been the most naturally gifted around", which prompted the :houllier:.

    He's the most naturally gifted player I've seen at United. I can only think of Best who might be on the same level of all time United players.

    He had the quickest feet of any player I've seen at United and was a dazzling dribbler. United has a tradition of wing play and top class dribblers. Ronaldo was by far the best I've seen.
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    Ronaldo
    Ronaldinho
    Henry
    C.Ronaldo
    Zlatan
    Kaka
    Adriano
    Zidane

    All at least six foot are they poor dribblers because there not small?
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    SteveW Full Member

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    When people started saying being tiny is an advantage. Being 5'6 doesn't make it easier than being 5'10.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Agree that we should get this thread back on track though.
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    dogwithabone Full Member

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    As good as he was it was a rapidly tiring Yeovil defence he was running at.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    Thread is in chaos.
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    Gomes is the size of an 11 year old.
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    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

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    The moment you have the words 'small' and 'size' in the same sentence, people will get defensive.

    Fact of life.
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    This
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    None of them move like Iniesta or Messi though.
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    BluesJr Full Member

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    You’d think that would be obvious but it appears not. Weird.
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    ClosetDevil Full Member

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    Probably a big call, but I remember the feeling I got when I first saw Ronaldo play in his very first game for us. I got that same feeling watching Angel yesterday.
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    Fantasic prospect, sterling comparisons are :houllier:
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    Litch Full Member

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    I think size and strength are taken into consideration when considering how soon you expose you men to adult football. Let's be honest, how else is Scott in the side without it. There are better young players in the club that are better than Scott in that position.
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    Beaucoup Full Member

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    He's an exciting prospect, I've watched him for for a few years, but let's calm down he only touched the ball twice.
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    This thread is a disaster!
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    I’m sure Jose will jokingly agree to play him more if he commits to Portugal instead of England :lol:
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    It's a weird thing to say about a young player but I really hope he doesn't have a growth spurt. The low centre of gravity suits his dribbling incredibly well.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    The height stuff has derailed the thread but its the Sterling comparisons that get to me most. One dribble and people decide he's a winger. He's far more of a David Silva, Iniesta type. He's not even particularly quick.
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    Globule signature/tagline creator extraordinaire

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    I hope he gets more minutes under his belt between now and the end of the season. In homes games against the weaker teams he should be given a place on the bench.
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    Mickfoley Banned

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    After 5 minutes of game time, he's been called Raheem Sterling, Iniesta, Scholes, David Silva, Modric and Messi.
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    Litch Full Member

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    The fact he's there speaks volumes. Exciting prospect and at the right club to get his opportunity IF you are good enough and take your opportunities when they are available.
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    What is this thread?

    Anyways, from watching this guy with the first team, England youth and our youth teams, He looks like a real fantastic prospect. Can't wait to see him develop.
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