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I don't understand Mourinho. Martial's biggest quality is his finishing. Why isn't he being deployed as a striker. He surely is gonna do better than Rashford and Lukaku. At least try something else. Either its Lukaku who is in awful state or Rashford who is not good as a finisher but has pace and could be used better from the left. . This guy is not a winger.
Every attack went down the left, he was very wasteful
When he’s “great” he’s scoring a goal a game so you can’t knock his productivity. However, his overall performance in games where he scores is usually identical to last night. Repeated bad decisions, poor off the ball movement and woeful short passing. If he ends up scoring a worldie none of that matters. However he can’t and won’t do that in every game so it’s a big fecking problem for the team that his basics are so consistently poor.
It's hard to find a wide forward/winger who isn't inconsistent but he has been horrible the past 2 games, seems as though the international break and his injury has halted the momentum he was building. Poor decision making, trying to over complicate things by dribbling too much or trying to score the perfect goal with a one-two. As some have said though - he didn't stop trying, just 2 bad days at the office.
I think a lot of it comes down to Pogba too. Pogba was poor on Saturday and of course didn't play most of last night and I think Pogba playing well is key to getting Martial in better positions. Pogba came on last night and straight away dinked the ball over the top for Martial to get on the end of, this was missing for most of the game and Martial was receiving the ball with 2 players to beat each time.
Just re-watching the game again and it’s funny how many times Young boys got 2 or 3 players to him in the game
We should be playing two strikers upfront. In a partnership. There's four strikers in the club but we would rather use a target man and makeshift wingers. Total waste .
People question why Lukaku has put on weight - its bloody obvious that he has been asked to put more muscle on to improve his ability as a target man. Doing so has significantly impaired his ability to be the traditional fast moving forward that he is that prefers to make runs behind the defence rather than being stagnant in one position.
Sanchez, Martial, Rashford & Lukaku are all good strikers at running either behind the opposition (rashford & Lukaku) or directly at the opposition (martial & Sanchez) - none of that happens at our club. Doing so as wingers significantly impairs the direction a winger can go leading normally to passes back or crosses in to the box; especially when our main goal threat is a 'makeshift' target man in Lukaku.
How can you play two strikers up top when you have no right winger, further more if you were to play three at the back, you would be asking for more trouble, with brain farts from Bailly and Jones.
Width from the fullbacks is enough. Every modern attacking team uses their fullbacks like wingers nowadays. We don't have a RW or any wingers for that matter so don't use system which requires wing play like 4-3-3 /4-2-3-1. it's quite simple. It exposes that weakness further. The football has been total crap in those formations without the players that suit it. Our best performance came when Ibrahimovic was benched and we went 3 at the back against Chelsea with partnership of Rashford and Lingard if you remember.
It will take Jose's sacking for people to accept Martial does have shit games for us.
Because we're playing low back line and we prefer playing long balls to Rom/Mata/Lingard (?!) with no one to win the 2nd ball or run behind and/or a slow side passing approach (Van Gaal it's you?!). To be effective with Martial/Sanchez upfront, we need some fluid creative attacking play where everyone knows what he has to do and try to do it with confidence...something our team lacks badly.
I thought that in his first season. The guy just looked such a lethal, composed finisher. I know he's done better so far this season but I still think his form under LVG was a lot better.
His end product was unusually bad, some stuff just didn't come off. Unlucky at times and you felt that his confidence is not fully there at others. His creative and build up play was good to see though. Hate to use a Mourinho term but the golabality of his performance was goo. His distractors will always focus on the bad on games like these of course, instead the true constructive thing about these games in Martial's carreer point is that he needs to experience them.
Hopefully he gets back in the goals on Saturday
Needs to just make his decisions faster when he's on the ball. Recently, he seemed unsure whether to go wide or cut inside and ends up giving the defender too much time to recover.
Is it really that hard to say he had a bad performance? He did. It's not the end of the world. Having 2 in a row isn't either. It happens.
We have a couple of those, unfortunately.
Not scoring for 2 games, he gets dropped. This is what you call Mourinho’s treatment, unfair!
He's coming back from an injury, Mourinho literally confirmed he's not ready to start games on the bounce yet.
Matic:; 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 +90 + 90 + 90 + infinity
Except for the opening few games yeah.
We carry no threat without Martial. Praying he’s fit for Arsenal.
Hope he isn't out for long. Whatever you may think of his performances, he's the only one of our players who is consistently scoring.
As soon as Martial went off our attacking threat dropped by about 90%.
I guess the main redeeming feature in his performance today is that it should,in theory,cement his role as our main forward because Lukaku once again did feck all.
Exactly this. Our best threat in front of goal. Worrying to see us without him right now.
The way he held the ball at times it reminded us how awful Lukaku is at that
Please be okay!
I thought he was doing really well. I enjoyed his performance especially when he was playing in the middle. It's such a shame.
One of about three players I though did well tonight. Shame about the injury.
To think the shit lord tried to sell him and buy Perisic. He'd have been out of a job long time ago.
He would be some player if he had Rashfords pace, I honestly think he lacks genuine pace to be a world class player!
Bagged another one and showed plenty of hunger for tracking back that really turns some on. Hopefully whatever he went off with was just a knock, although I imagine he'll miss the Fulham game at the very least.
Martial doesn't have pace? Since when?
He can be a world class player and will be without Rashford pace.
Martial can out pace any player from stand still position which is what you need to be world class.
Tony Martial scores again!
He put in a shift tonight. Looked really up for it. Massive shame he went off.
And in the 30th minute our lord and saviour said, “ let. Them. EAT!!
Looked good before having to go off, really mixing it and dare I say it seemed to take a leadership role.
@Chicharito_ Martial has either the 3rd or 2nd highest speed recorded in the prem since they started taking note of that. Leroy Sane and Van Ann Holt tied fastest and Vardy and Martial are tied after that.
Don't think he'll miss any games. He looked like he was unhappy with the physio when walking off the pitch. One can only assume because he wanted to play on.
Not sure why this myth keeps being perpetuated. I keep telling people he's one of the fastest in the league.
I must admit if you really didn’t know that stat he’s not one of those people where you think wow explosively fast. He’s just got that easy running style that doesn’t look like he is travelling. Where as the likes of Rashford and Ronaldo every movement looks like a struggle and like they are really straining.
I do think he also doesn’t use that outright pace that he has enough but then often when he is dribbiling or coming up against someone he probably tapers it so he can slow them down and then go up a gear to create a bit of space.
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